Sobekeus Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Seriously, that's your "analogy"? If someone pays for the $15 subscription, covering the correct date, they get as part of what they paid for, the coat. If someone does not pay the $15, they do not get the coat. How on earth (or in space) does that equate to "free"? ("Call now, and get a second one free, just pay shipping and handling!"... ) Complete waste of time to continue this, but if someone whom purchased 6 months sub before any of the free stuff was announced didn't want that stuff, could they force BW to issue a refund? I mean they wanted what they paid for, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Killjoy Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Complete waste of time to continue this, but if someone whom purchased 6 months sub before any of the free stuff was announced didn't want that stuff, could they force BW to issue a refund? I mean they wanted what they paid for, right? If your argument now rests on "what about prepaid?", you've already lost. Again, for those who haven't been following along, it's simple. IF someone PAID for a subscribing that covers the target date, they get the cost. If someone did not, they do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobekeus Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 If your argument now rests on "what about prepaid?", you've already lost. Again, for those who haven't been following along, it's simple. IF someone PAID for a subscribing that covers the target date, they get the cost. If someone did not, they do not. My argument rests on business and how it works, yours still sounds like a meme gone wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddballEasyEight Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Seriously, that's your "analogy"? If someone pays for the $15 subscription, covering the correct date, they get as part of what they paid for, the coat. If someone does not pay the $15, they do not get the coat. How on earth (or in space) does that equate to "free"? ("Call now, and get a second one free, just pay shipping and handling!"... ) If someone pays for food, they get the air as part of life, which they are paying for. If someone does not pay the food, they starve and die, and no longer get any oxygen. Yes, I'm vastly overexaggerating here, but that's because it's very disengenious to say that you're paying 15 bucks to get the coat. You're not paying that to get the coat. You're paying that to play the game with all the features. The coat is just a bonus, that you don't have to pay anything extra for. If you had to pay for the coat, the fee would be larger that month. I recently bought 6 posters at a comic con near me, and they gave me an extra one just because I bought so many. I didn't pay anything extra for it. I paid the price of 6 posters. I got one extra for free. If I had not bought the posters, I would not have gotten the extra one, but that doesn't mean I paid 20 bucks for 7 posters. It means I paid 20 bucks for 6 posters and got one for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OddballEasyEight Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 If your argument now rests on "what about prepaid?", you've already lost. Again, for those who haven't been following along, it's simple. IF someone PAID for a subscribing that covers the target date, they get the cost. If someone did not, they do not. They're still getting it for free. As in, they're getting it at no extra expense. They are not spending any more than they otherwise would have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOHboy Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 paid $15 for a coat and all i got was this stupid 30 day subscription and 600CC!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 No one started subscribing just for the swag. Well, I subscribed *then* because of the swag. But I was going to subscribe anyway. The swag just gave me a reason to do it then rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qouivandes Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 you know, in the end, we get what we get reskinned/recolored/etc. what all you need to really concern yourself over is the uncanny resemblance between scooby doo and Henry Winkler . Henry Winkler Scooby Doo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) They're still getting it for free. As in, they're getting it at no extra expense. 'Free" = "at no cost" not "at no additional cost." Complete waste of time to continue this Bu you are going to, anyway? Worst part is you people have forced me to be on the same side of an argument as Max_Killjoy. Edited September 15, 2015 by branmakmuffin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 'Free" = "at no cost" not "at no additional cost." Bu you are going to, anyway? Worst part is you people have forced me to be on the same side of an argument as Max_Killjoy. Well you don't have to be. It's not like someone is holding a gun to your head and making you agree with someone you don't want to. Isn't that something you'd usually say in this situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Well you don't have to be. It's not like someone is holding a gun to your head and making you agree with someone you don't want to. Isn't that something you'd usually say in this situation? Boost your sarcasm detector. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Boost your sarcasm detector. Boost your sarcasm power signal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Boost your sarcasm power signal. It was up pretty high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 It was up pretty high. Reset your system because it's not working properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Reset your system because it's not working properly. All checks are normal. Replace your power supply and re-initiate power-up sequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 All checks are normal. Replace your power supply and re-initiate power-up sequence. Sarcasm detector is working at full power and maximum range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qouivandes Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Sarcasm detector is working at full power and maximum range. is the safety on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 is the safety on? Yes, for safety reasons. It's powered by a nuclear plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 is the safety on? Exactly. He was worried about an overload. His detector can't handle sarcasm of that magnitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Exactly. He was worried about an overload. His detector can't handle sarcasm of that magnitude. False, my detector can handle all manners of Sarcasm, when Sarcasm is portrayed correctly. I would recommended googling how to portray sarcasm better on the internet to avoid any future misunderstandings from your basic skill level in regards to sarcasm on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 False, my detector can handle all manners of Sarcasm, when Sarcasm is portrayed correctly. This statement is highly persuasive evidence that your detector is malfunctioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reno_Tarshil Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 This statement is highly persuasive evidence that your detector is malfunctioning. My detector has been fine tuned from extensive experience of the many denizens on these forums, and my extensive stay here has allowed me to determine when a known forum regular is being sarcastic or not. Now with that knowledge in mind, I know when you are being serious and when you are being sarcastic and if what you said was truly sarcasm then it was a very poor attempt by you. I sincerely recommend contacting the sarcasm machine company that you purchased yours from and ask for a refund or cash in on your warranty and get it replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Killjoy Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) Yes, I'm vastly overexaggerating here, but that's because it's very disengenious to say that you're paying 15 bucks to get the coat. You're not paying that to get the coat. You're paying that to play the game with all the features. The coat is just a bonus, that you don't have to pay anything extra for. If you had to pay for the coat, the fee would be larger that month. I recently bought 6 posters at a comic con near me, and they gave me an extra one just because I bought so many. I didn't pay anything extra for it. I paid the price of 6 posters. I got one extra for free. If I had not bought the posters, I would not have gotten the extra one, but that doesn't mean I paid 20 bucks for 7 posters. It means I paid 20 bucks for 6 posters and got one for free. Right -- if you hadn't bought the other posters, you'd not have received that one either. You paid as much for 7 posters as you were going to pay for 6. That doesn't make the 7th poster free -- it's only free if you didn't have to pay for anything to get it. Likewise, the coat isn't free. The coat is INCLUDED in the $15 paid for that month. No one is claiming that the coat by itself cost $15. That so many people believe that you're actually getting something "for free" when you're paying money for it, or that it's not "part of the sale" if it came out of some other part of the business's budget, just shows how well the marketing wonks have done at ingraining their concepts into our culture. They're still getting it for free. As in, they're getting it at no extra expense. They are not spending any more than they otherwise would have. "Free" is when nothing is exchanged for the thing obtained. Edited September 16, 2015 by Max_Killjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
branmakmuffin Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 My detector has been fine tuned from extensive experience of the many denizens on these forums, and my extensive stay here has allowed me to determine when a known forum regular is being sarcastic or not. Now with that knowledge in mind, I know when you are being serious and when you are being sarcastic and if what you said was truly sarcasm then it was a very poor attempt by you. You have been deceived (and not by me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobekeus Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 "Free" is when nothing is exchanged for the thing obtained. Well, if you want to attempt to define it to fit your argument, free is 'without cost or payment'. I made no payment to get the coat, and getting it didn't change my costs. That came out of BW's cost. They paid for it, not I. So for me, it was free. Were there conditions on receiving it? Sure, but my sub didn't increase in price, nothing was taken from it to 'pay' for the coat. If you want to be super technical, you don't pay for anything from the cartel either. It's all free, you merely have to buy the currency to use it. The problem here is that cash flow is not a linear thing, which is why some people can almost grasp it, but actually don't and then just annoy the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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