Strive-US Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 I just can't see any Republic class using HK-51 (lorewise). As an assassin droid, it's firmly rooted on the side of evil. But even then, I can only picture HK-51 with a Sith Inquisitor or Bounty Hunter. It might just be the roleplayer in me. Does anyone else feel this way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leklor Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 (edited) I don't really feel that way. My main is a Jedi Knight and he has HK-51 on his team. Sure at first the ship conversations weren't very pleasant for HK since my JK often told him to dial back on the full psychotic persona but in time, HK becomes a lot more focused and can be made to only target ennemies you see as evil. So, in the end, it's a question of programming. A "blank" HK-51 that doesn't evolve is ill-fited to a "good" character but with time and conversations, he comes to like and respect his Master enough to alter his behavior. So, partially true on your side but only at first, I'd say. EDIT: Forgot to mention that: In the end I see a Republic alligned HK as similar to the Trooper actually, except his loyalty isn't to the Republic itself but to it's Master's ideal. I haven't finished companion conversation on an Empire + Evil HK so I don't know how he behaves. Edited June 14, 2015 by Leklor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sangiban Posted June 14, 2015 Share Posted June 14, 2015 An assassin droid means it's built for assassination. As HK-47 himself proved, you could be assassinating for the Sith or the Republic with equal measure. It's not something that's inherently "evil". Thane in Mass Effect 2 gives a great speech about how an assassin is merely a tool for killing, not the bearer of the guilt. The HK line droids were incredibly efficient killers, so for someone who engages enemies in combat on a daily basis, it makes sense that any of the 8 protagonists would be able to grab one. Even the Jedi classes. The Knight & Consular kill at least as many people as the other 6 classes, so it still makes sense that they'd pick up HK-51. It is a little weird that the Empire had hundreds of these droids on a ship to begin with, but the fate of the HK-51 droids was a little vague in KOTOR 2 anyway, so I'm with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noobishlord Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Oh, if only we could get the "Pacifist Upgrade" that poor HK-47 was subjected to in KoTOR2... that'll keep 51 in line. And props for the Thane reference there, very good point. Problem is, Thane doesn't see himself as a killer, merely a tool. A droid of HK personality generally sees itself as a killer, and enjoys it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkelefantos Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Oh, if only we could get the "Pacifist Upgrade" that poor HK-47 was subjected to in KoTOR2... that'll keep 51 in line. And props for the Thane reference there, very good point. Problem is, Thane doesn't see himself as a killer, merely a tool. A droid of HK personality generally sees itself as a killer, and enjoys it. True. Still, assassination isn't inherently evil and the Republic isn't inherently good as the OP seems to imply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xilizhra Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 An assassin droid means it's built for assassination. As HK-47 himself proved, you could be assassinating for the Sith or the Republic with equal measure. It's not something that's inherently "evil". Thane in Mass Effect 2 gives a great speech about how an assassin is merely a tool for killing, not the bearer of the guilt. The HK line droids were incredibly efficient killers, so for someone who engages enemies in combat on a daily basis, it makes sense that any of the 8 protagonists would be able to grab one. Even the Jedi classes. The Knight & Consular kill at least as many people as the other 6 classes, so it still makes sense that they'd pick up HK-51. It is a little weird that the Empire had hundreds of these droids on a ship to begin with, but the fate of the HK-51 droids was a little vague in KOTOR 2 anyway, so I'm with it. I'm fairly sure Thane wasn't intended to be correct there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLynkes Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 (edited) OP, I'm sure the Republic propaganda machine wishes all its citizens were as naïve as you. The Republic wouldn't think twice about using an entire army of HK-51s if it had them. The Republic isn't good. At best it's the lesser of two evils. Edited June 15, 2015 by PLynkes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diviciacus Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 OP, I'm sure the Republic propaganda machine wishes all its citizens were as naïve as you. The Republic wouldn't think twice about using an entire army of HK-51s if it had them. The Republic isn't good. At best it's the lesser of two evils. Power corrupts, as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHTJunior Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I think we're drawing the wrong lines, here. Shouldn't we focus on the mental alignment of the individual, rather than their faction affiliation? There are plenty of blood-thirsty extremists on both sides, but they are mostly dark side. I have a dark Jedi Knight who would love to have an HK, and soon might, with my recent unlock. I don't see many light side characters having a need for one, but he is on my Gunslinger's ship, and I've dialed back his sadistic enthusiasm, as mentioned prior to me. I fully expect that all of my dark side characters would love to have him aboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palar Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 I can see HK filling a role for Havoc Squad, being SpecOps, and a Smuggler wouldn't really care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazo-the-demon Posted November 5, 2015 Share Posted November 5, 2015 Personally I don't mind having a assassin robot by my side to kill anything that gets in my way, nor do I see anything wrong with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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