BlitzJG Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 So during the JK story you "kill" the emperor. But following this story, he is not actually dead correct? His "spirit" persists elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excise Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Long story short, the Emperor's spirit can possess different bodies. The Warrior killifies one such body on Voss (per the Emperor's request), and the Knight murderizes another at the end of Chapter 3. His spirit lives on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlitzJG Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 Does he possess multiple bodies at the same time? or does he have to hop? Also there a guide or timeline for the events of each class's quests? Showing where and when they overlap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkelefantos Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Does he possess multiple bodies at the same time? or does he have to hop? Also there a guide or timeline for the events of each class's quests? Showing where and when they overlap? Basically, he transfers his essence into one body at a time, this body becomes the "Voice of the Emperor". When the Voice's current host body dies, he retreats (presumably to his original body) untill a new body is ready to be possessed. The events of the Jedi Knight story left him so weakened that he didn't reappear till the end of Shadow of Revan, and even then it wasn't his physical form.This Voice mechanism was put in place to protect himself after Revan openly attacked him in the Citadel of Kaas City. There is no guide or timeline that precisely lists the exact order of events etc. as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 There is no guide or timeline that precisely lists the exact order of events etc. as far as I know. Only the ones we come up with ourselves really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jovianus Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) So during the JK story you "kill" the emperor. But following this story, he is not actually dead correct? His "spirit" persists elsewhere Yes. He was badly weakened after the fight with the JK So he fled to Yavin to recuperate. Now, thanks to the colossal incompetence of Revan, he's back. Though fortunately you intervene in time to prevent Revans utter stupidity from getting everyone killed, so he's active again but still weak. Edited March 7, 2015 by jovianus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IchibanSaru Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 The Emperor fooled everyone into thinking the planet's life force was what he required when in fact, he used the conflict between the Republic, Empire and Revanites to revitalize himself. Bioware, pulled a page or two from Tolkien, allowing the defeated Emperor to become a disembodied spirit who needed to regain strength before returning. At the end of SoR, the Emperor speaks and mocks the heroes before flying off into space on a Minas Morgul-esque magical pillar of energy... presumably to wreck havoc and re-incorporate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvidevOneSix Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 The Emperor fooled everyone into thinking the planet's life force was what he required when in fact, he used the conflict between the Republic, Empire and Revanites to revitalize himself. Bioware, pulled a page or two from Tolkien, allowing the defeated Emperor to become a disembodied spirit who needed to regain strength before returning. At the end of SoR, the Emperor speaks and mocks the heroes before flying off into space on a Minas Morgul-esque magical pillar of energy... presumably to wreck havoc and re-incorporate. Now that you mention it, I can see the "reference", maybe they meant it or it was just coincidence, but nice catch anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrr_hypernova Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 The Emperor fooled everyone into thinking the planet's life force was what he required when in fact, he used the conflict between the Republic, Empire and Revanites to revitalize himself. Bioware, pulled a page or two from Tolkien, allowing the defeated Emperor to become a disembodied spirit who needed to regain strength before returning. At the end of SoR, the Emperor speaks and mocks the heroes before flying off into space on a Minas Morgul-esque magical pillar of energy... presumably to wreck havoc and re-incorporate. so clearly the next expansion will involve crossing the galaxy with a ragtag group of imps and pubs to toss the one saber of power into the core of Nathema to destroy the emperors power and bring peace to the galaxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 so clearly the next expansion will involve crossing the galaxy with a ragtag group of imps and pubs to toss the one saber of power into the core of Nathema to destroy the emperors power and bring peace to the galaxy. And now I kinda want this to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IchibanSaru Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 so clearly the next expansion will involve crossing the galaxy with a ragtag group of imps and pubs to toss the one saber of power into the core of Nathema to destroy the emperors power and bring peace to the galaxy. It wouldn't surprise me if, in order to defeat the Emperor, Bioware requires a long quest involving the procurement of an "item of power" in order to vanquish him for good. I honestly rolled my eyes when the plot regarding the Emperor being an life energy vampire was revealed. So in other words, Bioware made the Emperor into a Lich. Now we need to find his phylactary to destroy him or we will simply keep jumping from body to body once he's restored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrr_hypernova Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 It wouldn't surprise me if, in order to defeat the Emperor, Bioware requires a long quest involving the procurement of an "item of power" in order to vanquish him for good. I honestly rolled my eyes when the plot regarding the Emperor being an life energy vampire was revealed. So in other words, Bioware made the Emperor into a Lich. Now we need to find his phylactary to destroy him or we will simply keep jumping from body to body once he's restored. so long as it lotr style item of power destroying and not harry potter style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exosasa Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Put that sucker in a mind trap and jettison it into a black hole. I want some story content revolving around a black hole :0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IchibanSaru Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 What seems like a cosmic threat: The undead Emperor escaping into space after feeding off the spent life force of the victims of the Yavin 4 conflict. It seems troubling for a couple reasons. Firstly, surely something as significant as that would've been remembered and mentioned in the SW's universe future... unless it's a red herring or non-event. I understand the mechanics of inventing new story within a historical time frame, but unless SWToR completely diverges from the continuity, it seems like Bioware might have written themselves into a corner using a "big baddie" event that has never been mentioned by any canon characters. Nobody in the movies or tv shows has said "remember that time the Sith Emperor went off the deep end and threatened to destroy all life?" One must be careful not to reach too far. I hope Bioware just up and says "The game is an alternate timeline" so they can be free to make content. It's a controversial opinion, but they are doing Mass Effect style plots in a universe whose future has already been established firmly (Disney Canon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinapus Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 so clearly the next expansion will involve crossing the galaxy with a ragtag group of imps and pubs to toss the one saber of power into the core of Nathema to destroy the emperors power and bring peace to the galaxy. I thought it would be trying to close the gate so Gozer, er, The Emperor can't end everything. "Everyone blank their minds!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabenschwinge Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 I think he's basically doing the Sauron. Harnessing power until he can take a physical shape again. Speculation and going too deep into details would be vain at this point however, I am pretty certain the story does not end there and more chapters are yet to come. Even though that would be a slap in the face of the Jedi Knight. I am still waiting for the classic turn of events: You are the Emperor... or at least his host. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabenschwinge Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) What seems like a cosmic threat: I understand the mechanics of inventing new story within a historical time frame, but unless SWToR completely diverges from the continuity, it seems like Bioware might have written themselves into a corner using a "big baddie" event that has never been mentioned by any canon characters. Nobody in the movies or tv shows has said "remember that time the Sith Emperor went off the deep end and threatened to destroy all life?" One must be careful not to reach too far.. Well, as long as it works why not. Whatever the authors of SW:TOR write cannot be not canon, because SW:TOR itself is a licensed Star Wars product. This all happens three thousand years before the story in the movies, which is a long time. Besides, I don't really think that the story of the Emperor is even remotely as problematic as the war itself and the Sith conquering half the galaxy. While it is known that Obi-Wan Kenobi considers the truth to be highly subjective and mallable the statement "For over a thousand generations the Jedi Knights were the guardians of peace and justice in the Old Republic. Before the dark times. Before the Empire." is difficult to combine with the war itself. What the Emperor wanted is hardly of consequence, what is of consequence is what actually happened. For the Jedi Order it would be a lot more relevant that it was virtually extinct three hundred years earlier... That the Emperor wanted to consume all life (which is not so unsimilar from Darth Nihilus, who at least consumed entire planets or Kreya trying to burn out the Force, but that's an Obsidian story) is ultimately but a foot note. I am pretty sure that there are billions of contradictions in Star Wars already. Personally I don't think that as long as the feeling of Star Wars is alright and the action in the existing movies is not directly contradicted, an author can write whatever they want. To involve all of Star Wars' extended universe would be like the attempt of herding fleas. EDIT: Of course the Bioware storyline should be consistent within itself, as far as possible in a set of games where the players can make choices. Edited March 13, 2015 by Rabenschwinge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashadk Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 so clearly the next expansion will involve crossing the galaxy with a ragtag group of imps and pubs to toss the one saber of power into the core of Nathema to destroy the emperors power and bring peace to the galaxy. The fellowship of the saber: Gandalf=Revan Frodo=Knight Aragorn=Warrior Legolas=Agent Boromir=Bounty Hunter Gimli=Trooper Sam=Inquisitor Merry=Consular Pippin=Smuggler Gollum= Kephess Put that sucker in a mind trap and jettison it into a black hole. I want some story content revolving around a black hole :0 Ironically, I want some story revolving around a mind trap. it seems like too perfect of a device not to be used to get rid of someone. The whole dropping down pits, stabbing with lightsabers, or destroying artifacts gets old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterFeign Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Just remember last time Bioware had a story about blackholes, it got leaked, then changed, and people didn't like said change too much XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrr_hypernova Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Just remember last time Bioware had a story about blackholes, it got leaked, then changed, and people didn't like said change too much XD that was dark energy and it still had the red green blue colour options just with an even bigger plot hole involveing the reapers existing to stop the use of mass effect technology when they use more of it than anyone and engeenered things so civalizations would develope to use it. the old planed ending would have made the existing **** storm look like a light breeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdbgjfdhjgkjdhsg Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I thought it would be trying to close the gate so Gozer, er, The Emperor can't end everything. "Everyone blank their minds!" I swear the Emperor is going to return as the Stay-puft marshmallow man:p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabenschwinge Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) I swear the Emperor is going to return as the Stay-puft marshmallow man:p. Are you a god? (Hint: When someone asks you if you're a god you say: Yes! When confronting him you do not say: "As a duly-constituted representative of the Planet of Alderaan, and on behalf of the Senate and People of the Rebuplic, the Galaxy and all its inhabitants, I hereby order you to cease and desist any and all supernatural activity and return at once to your place of origin or next parallel dimension.") Edited March 17, 2015 by Rabenschwinge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exosasa Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Are you a god? (Hint: When someone asks you if you're a god you say: Yes! When confronting him you do not say: "As a duly-constituted representative of the Planet of Alderaan, and on behalf of the Senate and People of the Rebuplic, the Galaxy and all its inhabitants, I hereby order you to cease and desist any and all supernatural activity and return at once to your place of origin or next parallel dimension.") And he'll reply: "u mot w8. u no tat legionz have risen 2 test me m8? ur striving iz insignifikant m8 let ur deaf be da same" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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