khsolo Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 (edited) SInce 3.0, before that when i logged in he was like all other toons, standstill no weapons drawn but now everytime i login hes weapons drawn but no weapon, have to press "z" to make him go to normal mode Edited December 29, 2014 by khsolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLynkes Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eartharioch Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Let me guess...you have the Scoundrel equivalent of Revitalizers as one of your Heroic Utilities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khsolo Posted December 31, 2014 Author Share Posted December 31, 2014 Let me guess...you have the Scoundrel equivalent of Revitalizers as one of your Heroic Utilities? Yes its called pugnacity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eartharioch Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Yes its called pugnacity As I pointed out in another thread a few days ago, that combo appears to be the "winning" combo -- you can take Pugnacity in other specs and you won't get the bug, and if you get rid of Pugnacity on your Scrapper, the bug will go away. I'm not suggesting not to use it, just that because it's that specific is probably why it's not a bigger issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khsolo Posted December 31, 2014 Author Share Posted December 31, 2014 As I pointed out in another thread a few days ago, that combo appears to be the "winning" combo -- you can take Pugnacity in other specs and you won't get the bug, and if you get rid of Pugnacity on your Scrapper, the bug will go away. I'm not suggesting not to use it, just that because it's that specific is probably why it's not a bigger issue. Pls point me to that thread, ty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eartharioch Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Pls point me to that thread, ty http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=783583 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danylia Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 As I pointed out in another thread a few days ago, that combo appears to be the "winning" combo -- you can take Pugnacity in other specs and you won't get the bug, and if you get rid of Pugnacity on your Scrapper, the bug will go away. I'm not suggesting not to use it, just that because it's that specific is probably why it's not a bigger issue. Interesting, but unfortunately not 100% correct. My Concealment Operative (the bug being tied to Concealment/Scrapper Disciplines seems to be true so far) has Imperial Tactics and Augmented shields as Heroic utilities, and still gets the bug. Also for clarity: Pugnacity = Stim Boost. Name of the Heroic Utility is "Surprise Comeback" (Revitalizers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorei Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Interesting, but unfortunately not 100% correct. My Concealment Operative (the bug being tied to Concealment/Scrapper Disciplines seems to be true so far) has Imperial Tactics and Augmented shields as Heroic utilities, and still gets the bug. Also for clarity: Pugnacity = Stim Boost. Name of the Heroic Utility is "Surprise Comeback" (Revitalizers). Agreed, I as well use Augmented shields and I get the bug. I did some testing as well and I get the bug as soon as I spec Scrapper/Concealment regardless of utilities (even if I select no utilities at all). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eartharioch Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Agreed, I as well use Augmented shields and I get the bug. I did some testing as well and I get the bug as soon as I spec Scrapper/Concealment regardless of utilities (even if I select no utilities at all). I definitely do not have the problem specced as Concealment with no Utilities chosen. I didn't test every combination, but I added my usual Utilities in one and a time none of them triggered the bug until I added in Revitalizers. I then cleared my utilities and chose the same other six, picking a random one instead of Revitalizers -- no bug. I then cleared again and rechose (with Revitalizers) and I got the bug. I tried both Medicine and Lethality with the same Utilities (including Revitalizers) and they didn't bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eartharioch Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Interesting, but unfortunately not 100% correct. My Concealment Operative (the bug being tied to Concealment/Scrapper Disciplines seems to be true so far) has Imperial Tactics and Augmented shields as Heroic utilities, and still gets the bug. Also for clarity: Pugnacity = Stim Boost. Name of the Heroic Utility is "Surprise Comeback" (Revitalizers). I didn't test every combination, so i'm not saying it can't happen other ways, just that when I choose 7 abilities (including Revitalizers) I get the bug, and when I choose same six but replace Revitalizers with something else, I don't get the bug. And the same seven (including Revitalizers) doesn't trigger the bug with the other specs. As for Scoundrel terms, I said I don't know them. One of the previous posters said that's what Revitalizers was, so I just used what he said in my reply to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sorei Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) I definitely do not have the problem specced as Concealment with no Utilities chosen. I didn't test every combination, but I added my usual Utilities in one and a time none of them triggered the bug until I added in Revitalizers. I then cleared my utilities and chose the same other six, picking a random one instead of Revitalizers -- no bug. I then cleared again and rechose (with Revitalizers) and I got the bug. I tried both Medicine and Lethality with the same Utilities (including Revitalizers) and they didn't bug. I have no idea why it's different on your character. Here you can see I just logged with no utilities chosen and my character is in his fighting stance without weapon. Come to notice, my level 19 Operative specced as Concealment doesn't get the bug. My level 36 Scoundrel does. Edit: Respecced my level 55 Operative to Concealment (without choosing utilties) and she gets the bug, too. Edited December 31, 2014 by Sorei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eartharioch Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 I have no idea why it's different on your character. Here you can see I just logged with no utilities chosen and my character is in his fighting stance without weapon. Come to notice, my level 19 Operative specced as Concealment doesn't get the bug. My level 36 Scoundrel does. Edit: Respecced my level 55 Operative to Concealment (without choosing utilties) and she gets the bug, too. I did some more testing, and I was able to get the bug without having any utilities chosen, and I was able to get loads without the bug once with Revitalizers or the Utilities with which you experienced bugs. So I'm pretty sure it's not the Utilities, and that it is a timing issue (still only for Concealment), which is why it happens some times and not others. Anyway, I posted more details in the previous thread (which I linked to earlier in this thread). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobaFaceroll Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 It's not tied to a particular Utility. Both my Op and Scoundrel have done this since 3.0 dropped, before either had a chance to choose a Discipline or slot a single Utility. They both do it to this day, no matter what combination of Disciplines/Utilities I choose. It's annoying too, so I'd love a fix. I'm not holding my breath though considering the sheer volume of bugs introduced with 3.0. PS: Yuun is still bugged after 2+ years. How's that "we are working on a fix" coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVengeant Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Same here. Furthermore, the animation for scoundrel when you have gun out and run makes you look like you have a back problem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpbaker Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 As we approach 2017 this is still a problem on my agent. I also see a grid of dots on the butt of her rifles. I've tried different ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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