TACeMossie Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Right, but can you firm that it's on a 3 second window? So if you were under constant fire, it would proc 5 times then? Hmm. More testing tomorrow then lol. I think you're confusing Reflexive Armor with Electro Shield/Pyro Shield (Damage recoil while Reactive Shield/Energy Shield is up) Reactive Shield should be able to tick up to 16 times with extremely perfect damage timing from the other guy, while Reflective Armor can (and does) always happen when being AoEd so long as the 3 second lockout has finished. Best way to test if reflective armor is affected by alacrity: Get 5% alacrity through gear. Get a sorc to get 5% alacrity. Get sorc to channel forcequake on you. If the 4th tick of forcequake activates Into the Fray/Close and Personal, its affected by Alacrity. If not, then its not affected by alacrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DethlaHadyn Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Right, well I'm not too concerned about alacrity, but if it did work then that would be another perk that alacrity provides lol. I geuss my arguement would have been invalid without alacrity equipped, for flamethrower is a 3 second channel anyways, haha geez my bad. The retributive damage from AOE attacks (every 3 seconds) still isn't high enough to warrant a utility point (1648), but situationally it would be another way to mildly enhance our defensive cooldown. I've noticed that the amount of damage reflective armor provides, does scale with your bonus damage. I'm not confusing the two, I have seen pyro shield reflect consecutively against direct attacks, but not against dots. Thanks for pointing that out tho man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diadox Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) Reflective Armor doesn't require Energy Shield to proc. I'm guessing your confusion comes from the fact that Close and Personal increases Energy Shield duration in addition to the heal proc. The two effects work separately from each other; they are two different effects that just happen to share a tooltip. Reflective Armor would be way overpowered for a skillful utility in some situations if it didn't have the icd. Edited February 3, 2015 by diadox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DethlaHadyn Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 Reflective Armor doesn't require Energy Shield to proc. I'm guessing your confusion comes from the fact that Close and Personal increases Energy Shield duration in addidition to the heal proc. The two effects work separately from each other; they are two different effects that just happen to share a tooltip. Reflective Armor would be way overpowered for a skillful utility in some situations if it didn't have the icd. Haha, you're right, it would be too strong without a cooldown. Also, I was incorrect about reflective armor then. As a pvp'er, you tend to focus on immediate upfront utilities, and having a generic aoe retributive attack is something that totally slipped under my radar, for the few times I had the utility selected. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catholicc Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 yay. preliminary patch notes are in, and guess what. still not a word on the broken trait!! Nice job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col_Wilson Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 Looks like they couldn't find a way to fix KO/AR for Pyro/Plasma so they changed the way it worked... and nerfed it (along with some Pyro/Plasma damage abilities? Because apparently that was a problem -_-). Instead of the cooldown being reduced by 6 seconds every 1.5s you are attacked, which effectively made this about a 45 second cooldown under constant fire, they're making it a flat 30 second cooldown reduction. It went from ~45 seconds to 2.5 minutes. Less damage, less survivability. Because Pyro/Plasma was soooooooo OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catholicc Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Looks like they couldn't find a way to fix KO/AR for Pyro/Plasma so they changed the way it worked... and nerfed it (along with some Pyro/Plasma damage abilities? Because apparently that was a problem -_-). Instead of the cooldown being reduced by 6 seconds every 1.5s you are attacked, which effectively made this about a 45 second cooldown under constant fire, they're making it a flat 30 second cooldown reduction. It went from ~45 seconds to 2.5 minutes. Less damage, less survivability. Because Pyro/Plasma was soooooooo OP. About only 3 people (cross-servers) played Pryo/Plasmatech, so instead of getting more people to play it they nerf it some more. It was never 45seconds after 3.0. It was 3 minutes- so while the change is not ideal- it is obviously meant as a quick fix because the DEVs are looking just looking for more ways to nerf every class to make inquisitors more appealing. First they remove Full Auto- now they're nerfing shoulder cannon to the point where it's almost- completely- useless and they're also reducing the damage of shockstrike and firepulse. Is there even a reason to having shockstrike anymore since the base dmg is being nerfed and bonus dmg to burning targets is being removed all together? 2xXP weekend is coming. Might as well reroll an assassin. Nice work Bioware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BardaTheHobo Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 And whats worse about the new plasmatech changes is that there is still no word of a fix(not that I have seen anyways) for Ionized ignition (plasma cell dot spread on Explosive surge) so the new change to Rain of Fire (Rain of Fire has been redesigned: Pulse Cannon now deals 10% additional damage to burning targets.) is even less appealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DethlaHadyn Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 (edited) You all have to remember that any press is good press, especially the bad. Does Bioware know what they're doing? Yes. Do they know we're upset? Haha...yes. They're thriving on it. I could care less about these changes. I'll still solo que my PT and complete my ranked dailies. Edited February 8, 2015 by DethlaHadyn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunner_Venda Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I feel for the plasma spec, I really hoped that they would fix this. Instead the devs wrecked it completely. When an read the plasmatech changes, my first thought was, "they've got to be trolling us.." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs_zoltan Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I feel for the plasma spec, I really hoped that they would fix this. Instead the devs wrecked it completely. When an read the plasmatech changes, my first thought was, "they've got to be trolling us.." I was one of the few who played it in PVP...I guess after 3.1.1 I'll be the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DethlaHadyn Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I was one of the few who played it in PVP...I guess after 3.1.1 I'll be the only one. Regs? I never seen you on teh yoloscene. No matter, I think if the moon and the stars line up, pyro might stand a chance in group ranked, with an overpowered team to carry them. Haha getting the other teams to line up for this new 10% lulzbuff on flamethrower, still won't be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs_zoltan Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Regs? I never seen you on teh yoloscene. No matter, I think if the moon and the stars line up, pyro might stand a chance in group ranked, with an overpowered team to carry them. Haha getting the other teams to line up for this new 10% lulzbuff on flamethrower, still won't be enough. I don't play ranked for 2 reasons. 1: I don't like arena, 2: I don't like fotm. That's why I'll keep playing Pyro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DethlaHadyn Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I don't play ranked for 2 reasons. 1: I don't like arena, 2: I don't like fotm. That's why I'll keep playing Pyro. I like arenas. I like pyro cuz it looks kool. I play AP because my chick giggles on resets. Have a nice day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zunayson Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Well, it looks like they fixed automated defenses. Too bad a 36 sec STUN BREAKER never hit the live game, damn it, I would have enjoyed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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