Darth_Advent Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Right now I just want an ability that incorporates the lightsaber meaningfully even if it's only a boost to deflection that lets the plasma stat stick do something useful instead of permitting a supposed master of the Force to take blaster shots to the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yicle Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 IMO Madness/Balance is Way to OP and anyone that says otherwise is probably Playing Madness/balance. As a lightning Sorcerer it's almost impossible to Kill a madness sorcerer. I'd rather have something like. The No cooldown force lightning eats force quicker for example Cast force lightning once and it takes the norm amount of force cast it again and that's a 20% increase in force Consumption Then you cast it again its a 40% increase in Force consumption then 60% e.t.c Because it would nice to see something other then Force Lightning, force lightning , Force lightning , Crushing darkness, Force lightning and so on. So that Madness sorcerers have to Wait for CD's instead of Force Lightning spam. Or risk losing alot of force.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrulin Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 IMO Madness/Balance is Way to OP and anyone that says otherwise is probably Playing Madness/balance. As a lightning Sorcerer it's almost impossible to Kill a madness sorcerer. I'd rather have something like. The No cooldown force lightning eats force quicker for example Cast force lightning once and it takes the norm amount of force cast it again and that's a 20% increase in force Consumption Then you cast it again its a 40% increase in Force consumption then 60% e.t.c Because it would nice to see something other then Force Lightning, force lightning , Force lightning , Crushing darkness, Force lightning and so on. So that Madness sorcerers have to Wait for CD's instead of Force Lightning spam. Or risk losing alot of force.. The surely you are going to say the same thing about disturbance for telekinetics. The truth is balance is a sustained damage spec and TK is burst. If the fight is a long one, balance will win. As TK you have to kill the balance guy fast, interrupt his TK Throw, and possibly purge his dots. The specs are fairly well balanced for PVE. PVP is just a separate can of worms. Taking something away for the sake of PVP is not going to work unless you can counteract it by also giving them something in return to maintain PVE balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galothor Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Well most people whining about Madness are failing to interupt Force Lightning. And to be honest i don't feel sorry for them. If you are to stupid to interupt that 1 cast/channel this class has and which accounts for a huge amount of the damage this class can deal, then you deserve to die. People used to simply out dps the sorc by spamming 2 or 3 keys. That's not working anymore and they just cannot cope with it by pressing another 1 or 2 keys. Minor changes might be necessary, though a class should not be nerfed just because it is not a free kill anymore and PT/smashers have to use more than 3 keys now. Anyways you won't see any balance changes until 3.0 and who knows maybe they will screw up sorcs for 2 years again. You should all wait for 3.0 and then start talking about balance issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yicle Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 Well most people whining about Madness are failing to interupt Force Lightning. And to be honest i don't feel sorry for them. If you are to stupid to interupt that 1 cast/channel this class has and which accounts for a huge amount of the damage this class can deal, then you deserve to die. People used to simply out dps the sorc by spamming 2 or 3 keys. That's not working anymore and they just cannot cope with it by pressing another 1 or 2 keys. Minor changes might be necessary, though a class should not be nerfed just because it is not a free kill anymore and PT/smashers have to use more than 3 keys now. Anyways you won't see any balance changes until 3.0 and who knows maybe they will screw up sorcs for 2 years again. You should all wait for 3.0 and then start talking about balance issues. You do relise If you interrupt them all they do is stun you while waiting for FL to become avalible again and then just re-spam it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TACeMossie Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 You do relise If you interrupt them all they do is stun you while waiting for FL to become avalible again and then just re-spam it.... And then you re-interrupt it because melee = reasonable cooldown on interrupt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs_zoltan Posted October 18, 2014 Author Share Posted October 18, 2014 And then you re-interrupt it because melee = reasonable cooldown on interrupt And then you realise that you can't use your 4 meter interrupt becuase the 9sec root, spammable slow, pusback, hardstun, Fadeout+Force Speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuku-sama Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 And then you realise that you can't use your 4 meter interrupt becuase the 9sec root, spammable slow, pusback, hardstun, Fadeout+Force Speed Then you realise, as you face the respawn screen, how stupid of you it was to not use Hydraulic Overides/Hold the Line, your leap, Predation/Transcendance, your own roots and slows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs_zoltan Posted October 18, 2014 Author Share Posted October 18, 2014 Then you realise, as you face the respawn screen, how stupid of you it was to not use Hydraulic Overides/Hold the Line, your leap, Predation/Transcendance, your own roots and slows. Other than leap they all have longer cooldown than Force Speed, and that's only one of Madness' tools. But nice try. I don't know why are you guys even try to pretend like Madness is not OP, there's a reason why everyone and their dog is playing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chemic_al Posted October 19, 2014 Share Posted October 19, 2014 I don't know why are you guys even try to pretend like Madness is not OP, there's a reason why everyone and their dog is playing it. Yeah, because sorc heals couldn't compete with operative heals (until the most recent changes, and even then) and only masochists play lightning. Madness has been the only viable dps spec in pvp anyways for going back as far as bubblestun lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs_zoltan Posted October 19, 2014 Author Share Posted October 19, 2014 Yeah, because sorc heals couldn't compete with operative heals (until the most recent changes, and even then) and only masochists play lightning. Madness has been the only viable dps spec in pvp anyways for going back as far as bubblestun lol. Yet there was only a fraction of them playing pre 2.8, interesting. But sure, try to justify it more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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