Canino Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Has Durge even seen the Invincible? Does he have any experience with it? Does he have any experience with major Separatist vessels? I doubt Durge saw The Invincible, as it was Trench's flagship. However, he has lived for thousands of years, and served as one of the CIS's highest commanders. He has most likely seen most a decent amount of ships from the Separatists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Well, jeez. /5char So I take it Aurbere gets every upgrade too? Criminals aren't exactly good at keeping secrets, Cipher agents ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 OK, so here is some of my rundown, with some unit quotes. Grand Moff Rikus Kilran: Grand Moff Rycus Kilran was one of the finest military minds of the Sith Empire. He masterminded several of the most devastating and successful victories for the Sith Empire during the Great War. His tactics during the Sacking of Coruscant earned him his favorite title: Butcher of Coruscant. His unorthodox tactics and brutally efficient strategies earned him the respect of the Sith, admiration of his soldiers, and hatred of the Republic. Rycus Kilran is also a skilled fighter. During the Sacking of Coruscant he repelled a boarding party of Jedi Knights and continued commanding his ships, despite suffering heavy injuries. One of the most successful and highly-esteemed officers in the history of the Empire, Rycus Kilran was a hero to the men under his command and the bane of every Republic force he battled during the Great War. Born to a prestigious military family on Dromund Kaas, Kilran possessed refined tastes, a dry, ironic sense of humor, and confidence to spare; he knew his own capabilities, and wasn't afraid to put them to use. Beginning is career as a naval officer, his natural talents for strategy and command saw him rise quickly through the ranks as he lead many of the Empire's most successful and ruthless assaults in the early days of the Great War. By the end of the conflict, he held the rank of moff along with one of the finest records of any Imperial officer. A final series of brutal strikes up to and including the Sacking of Coruscant earned Kilran the vaunted title of Grand Moff. Kilran commanded the Empire's forces impressively throughout the peace following the Great War, always managing to drive back Republic forces and their allies without ever fully breaching the Treaty of Coruscant (or at least, never leaving witnesses for such breaches). He oversaw some of the initial firefights that would eventually lead to the dissolution of the treaty, including the Empire's assaults on the Republic vessels Brentaal Star and Esseles. When the war began again in earnest, Kilran one several initial victories for the Empire before taking on the taks of defending Maelstrom Prison from Republic forces bent on freeing its most critical inmate: the centuries-old Jedi known as Revan. Unfortunately for Kilran and the Empire, he underestimated the abilities of the Republic strike team, and was killed in the course of Revan's escape. A memorial statue has been commissioned in Kilran's honor, and is set to begin construction on Dromund Kaas as soon as a suitable site can be agreed upon by the Ministry of War. -SWOTRE Naval Forces: Gladiator-class Star Destroyer: The Gladiator-class serves as a powerful escort ship. It is armed with 25 light turbolasers, 10 point defense cannons, 10 concussion missile launchers, and 6 tractor beam projectors. It is most certainly capable of fulfilling multiple roles, be it fighter defense or ship-to-ship combat. Harrower-class Dreadnought: Like Emperor Palpatine’s Imperial-class Star Destroyer, the Harrower-class is among the most powerful and deadly starships ever designed. Its wedge-shaped hull allowed it to bring concentrate virtually all of its firepower directly forward, while also serving to deflect damage from head-on fire. The warship outclassed most vessels, and could take on starfighters and escort ships on its own. The Invincible: Once the flagship of Admiral Trench, the Invincible now serves as the lead ship of the Fist’s navy. The vessel is twice as large as a standard Providence-class and likely possessed considerably greater firepower. Its weaponry included numerous Turbolaser and Quad Turbolaser batteries, as well as Proton Torpedo launchers, which were capable of launching tracking torpedoes for use against stealthed targets. Its shielding was also impressive in the fact that it could raise thermal shields to defend against proton torpedoes. Fleet Quotes: The Imperial Fleet With colossal dreadnoughts, deadly starfighters, superior numbers, and devastating weaponry, the Imperial navy has won more victories for the Empire than all its other forces combined. The mere rumor of Imperial ships ships approaching a planet has been known to incite panicking and riots, while their arrival elicits surrender more often that resistance. This fearsome reputation is a testament to the discipline and skill of the Empire's starship crews, as well as the tremendous capabilities of the ships themselves. Fury Featuring an advanced hyperdrive and state-of-the-art sub-light engines, the Fury is the most versatile starship in the Imperial fleet. Though initially designed for high-priority military missions, the Fury has become a favorite among Sith Lords and the latest models have been engineered accordingly. The Fury’s angular design combines the maneuverability of smaller Imperial fighters like the Interceptor with impressive armament that rivals some of the Empire’s larger military vessels. The Fury also features a newly designed set of ‘strike foils’ that remain down for travel but can be expanded in short range combat to maximize the ship’s agility and range of firepower. Harrower-class dreadnought The mainstay of the Imperial navy and active symbol of the Empire's power, Harrower-class dreadnoughts are among the most powerful and deadly starships ever designed. The ships wedge-shaped hull allows virtually all of its firepower to be concentrated directly forward, while also helping to minimize the ship's massive profile and deflect damage from head-on fire. Most servicemen consider the Harrower to be the high standard against which ll others Imperial ships are judged, and these ships' crews often conduct themselves accordingly, offering token respect for anyone who serves on a "lesser" vessel. SWTORE and SWTOR website I'll follow this up in a later post so as not to make a big text wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I doubt Durge saw The Invincible, as it was Trench's flagship. However, he has lived for thousands of years, and served as one of the CIS's highest commanders. He has most likely seen most a decent amount of ships from the Separatists. I wish we had more info though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 /5char So I take it Aurbere gets every upgrade too? Criminals aren't exactly good at keeping secrets, Cipher agents ftw. Going over everything Intelligence can give would take forever. Still, that's something we should do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) Going over everything Intelligence can give would take forever. Still, that's something we should do. Unfortunately Sith Intelligence is a Organization, not a supplier. Meaning that while they will indeed provide quite valuable intel that will help them plan accordingly, they will not be providing much if any upgrades to your fleet or soldiers. The Trade Federation could...but I would not recommend their kind of "upgrades"... Side Note: I understand Organizations are said to be able to provide upgrades as well, but it was not really their "shtick" if you get my meaning. While they might be able to provide some nice toys, not nearly as much as a supplier. Edited August 7, 2014 by Silenceo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 /5char So I take it Aurbere gets every upgrade too? Criminals aren't exactly good at keeping secrets, Cipher agents ftw.In the time it would take to achieve that, the space battle would be largely over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 So looking at the fleets, I'm not seeing where the Confederacy's fighters are coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canino Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I wish we had more info though. I agree, although I believe my assessment is correct. I mean, he lived for thousands of years, seeing technology evolve around him. And considering his prominent place in the CIS, he must have learned somethings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canino Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 So looking at the fleets, I'm not seeing where the Confederacy's fighters are coming from. Hyperspace rings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I agree, although I believe my assessment is correct. I mean, he lived for thousands of years, seeing technology evolve around him. And considering his prominent place in the CIS, he must have learned somethings. Maybe, but I doubt he knows about the Invincible's upgrades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Hyperspace rings So how many do you have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) So looking at the fleets, I'm not seeing where the Confederacy's fighters are coming from. As previously stated. Pirates Cheat. Nonsense aside, If I recall correctly it was not uncommon for pirate fleets to arrive with their ships separate for quick strikes, which often went well with allowing their vessels to not need to accommodate them, allowing them to focus on modifications or speed and ect. For the exact number, i am unsure. Beni? Edited August 7, 2014 by Silenceo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 As previously stated. Pirates Cheat. Nonsense aside, If I recall correctly it was not uncommon for pirate fleets to arrive with their ships separate for quick strikes, which often went well with allowing their vessels to not need to accommodate them, allowing them to focus on modifications or speed and ect. For the exact number, i am unsure. Beni? So, because "pirates cheat" they are allowed special preparations. I'd like to think Kilran would be able to do the same since, you know, Imperials cheat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canino Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Maybe, but I doubt he knows about the Invincible's upgrades. I agree with that. As I said, he would not know the Invincible, as it was Trench's personal craft. However, he likely knows of a vast majority of ships in the galaxy, especially the CIS. And yes Virago? It was Xizor's personal craft. Not a capital ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 Hyperspace rings Only the V-Wing, the other two have hyperdrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canino Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 So, because "pirates cheat" they are allowed special preparations. I'd like to think Kilran would be able to do the same since, you know, Imperials cheat. It is hyperspace rings. Numbers, I do not know, as I would rather not do any math today. Beni? Tune? Y'all love math. I prefer writing and history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I agree with that. As I said, he would not know the Invincible, as it was Trench's personal craft. However, he likely knows of a vast majority of ships in the galaxy, especially the CIS. And yes Virago? It was Xizor's personal craft. Not a capital ship Too bad for him most of the Fist's fleet is Imperial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silenceo Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 (edited) So, because "pirates cheat" they are allowed special preparations. I'd like to think Kilran would be able to do the same since, you know, Imperials cheat. Not quite the same. Imperials, even as far back as the Sith Empire, were Nazi's when it came to rules and protocols. Besides, he has not shown to do it previously, has he? That being the key difference. Side Note: I would do the fighters for the CIC myself, but we have little to no basis to base it on, which doesn't even give us a starting point. If Beni can specify a grand total or even specifics for how many of each, then we can get started. Edited August 7, 2014 by Silenceo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 And yes Virago? It was Xizor's personal craft. Not a capital ship No, cause reasons... ...I'm kidding, obviously yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Not quite the same. Imperials, even as far back as the Sith Empire, were Nazi's when it came to rules and protocols. Besides, he has not shown to do it previously, has he? That being the key difference. He has certainly prepared for his opponents. Remember the Esseles, he had special "preparations" for his "visitors." He also masterminded several of the Empire's most devastating campaigns, surely this would entail a certain level of preparation, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted August 7, 2014 Author Share Posted August 7, 2014 It is hyperspace rings. Numbers, I do not know, as I would rather not do any math today. Beni? Tune? Y'all love math. I prefer writing and history I hate maths. I prefer writing and history damn it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Only the V-Wing, the other two have hyperdrives. So how many fighters do they have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canino Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Too bad for him most of the Fist's fleet is Imperial. Speaking of which, Urai found and examined a datacron dating to the Sith Wars. So he could potentially know a great deal about your ground forces. Hell, it could help in the space battle, although I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Speaking of which, Urai found and examined a datacron dating to the Sith Wars. So he could potentially know a great deal about your ground forces. Hell, it could help in the space battle, although I doubt it. Which Sith Wars? Kun's or Ruin/Kaan's? Either or, I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that the Holocron was a comprehensive overview of the Sith Empire's military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts