KaiserTNT Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I'd say just track it like it's been tracked so far. Guilds who cleared it with NiM power have titles, and they will be at the top of the list already, indicating that they got it done first. If we do it another way, it puts us all into a debate over "is <X> boss with NiM power more difficult than <Y> boss without ? For instance, should a kill against NiM+ Draxus be more heavily weighted than a kill against NiM-nerf Brontes? I don't know...seems too complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeyboardNinja Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 (edited) As far as I can tell, nightmare power is removed from NiM DF. I haven't been in there personally, but everyone who had gone 5/5 before 2.8 who has now been in there (a few on the forums) says that things are hitting a lot weaker. In fact, this is apparently causing problems with Grob'thok, since the lava is nerfed but the adds still have crudloads of HP, so they don't die from lava alone. People are also reporting somewhat insane results on Brontes, like pushing the first shield at 25%. Edited June 12, 2014 by KeyboardNinja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headpunch Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 (edited) Well as of yesterday it was bugged and still has NiM power stats, not sure with the fixes they rolled out on the servers over night whether it was fixed. Depends on the server/instance. There have been conflicting reports as to whether or not it's actually nerfed. Since it seems bugged currently, ie, fire in Grob'thok doesn't kill adds reliably, progression tracking until the bug fixes go through is a moot point. Sythise stated on the spreadsheet that post-NiM Power kills will be tracked in a different color if you check out the key at the bottom of the sheet, which I think is acceptable. NiM Power kills reflect a true "Nightmare Mode" experience, and it makes sense that the guilds who succeeded under that should be rewarded with a higher ranking. The devs echo that sentiment with the inclusion of the "Conqueror of the Dread Fortress" title that is now unobtainable. While this means any further NiM DF progression won't be marked as part of the NiM Power tier, it at least gives guilds a shot at letting the server know that they're pushing harder content. I'd really encourage guilds that want to hit NiM DP while NiM Power is active to go in and get gear from NiM DF in its nerfed state. It'll make progression in NiM DP go a lot smoother. Edited June 12, 2014 by Headpunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haksilence Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) <Aisthesis> killed NiM ******.... i mean Bestia. Screen shots to come EDIT Walah Edited June 12, 2014 by haksilence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headpunch Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Nice work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ML_DoubleTap Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 <Aisthesis> killed NiM ******.... i mean Bestia. Screen shots to come EDIT Walah Very nice. I'm bummed I'm not gonna see the boss for a couple weeks...darn summer and it's vacations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haksilence Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 thanks guys!! everything kinda fell together really well for us! its one good fight i gotta say im excited for the rest of the bosses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Posted June 12, 2014 Author Share Posted June 12, 2014 Congrats guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiackus Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 UWA cleared Bestia. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2kqK_5gh3lQT25iX0dBSnNYVXc/edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haksilence Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 UWA cleared Bestia. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B2kqK_5gh3lQT25iX0dBSnNYVXc/edit woot! race is on. congrats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLukeFactor Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 UWA Bestia Kill Video for those that are interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ML_DoubleTap Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 <Aisthesis> killed NiM ******.... i mean Bestia. Screen shots to come EDIT Walah Looking at the screenie, why is there only 7 achievements in the chat window and your achievement link shows 0/1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haksilence Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Looking at the screenie, why is there only 7 achievements in the chat window and your achievement link shows 0/1? that is strange.... well here is an achievement screenie i just took. http://imgur.com/BLYTtB4 (Not on Morrgan because im pvping right now lol, but you can see its the spicerum legacy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ML_DoubleTap Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 (edited) that is strange.... well here is an achievement screenie i just took. http://imgur.com/BLYTtB4 (Not on Morrgan because im pvping right now lol, but you can see its the spicerum legacy) Yeah just thought it was weird and you got screwed out of it Oh, and what's with the 4/5 in HM! Edited June 12, 2014 by ML_DoubleTap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haksilence Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Yeah just thought it was weird and you got screwed out of it Oh, and what's with the 4/5 in HM! I'm Bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RynZelara Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 I'm Bad Loooooooooooooooooooooooooool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headpunch Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 http://i.imgur.com/FC3E702.jpg PV got Bestia, w00t. Tyrans is fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omophorus Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 http://i.imgur.com/FC3E702.jpg PV got Bestia, w00t. Tyrans is fun. Did we seriously all forget to screenshot the kill? We're such nabz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLukeFactor Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Proper Villains Bestia Kill Video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RynZelara Posted June 13, 2014 Share Posted June 13, 2014 Did we seriously all forget to screenshot the kill? We're such nabz. Lol, I hear ya =P Also Se'vak, yes. Tyrans is hella fun. Very methodical fight =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headpunch Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 (edited) PV cleared NiM DF 16m in a linear manner tonight. Prior to this, we had killed Draxx, Grob, and Brontes as a full guild 16m under NiM power. Our thoughts are that the instance has been super nerfed w/NiM power. Healers felt it was a snore fest, tanks were laughing at the damage taken per second, and DPS were bored with the checks. NiM C-0 on 16m will still wipe you if people don't spread out, Orbs can still 1 shot you in Brontes, and the clock phase burn can be a bit tight if people derp, so you still have to execute mechanics. Basically, as long as groups are on par with the mechanics, people shouldn't have problems with the instance in its current state. http://imgur.com/vyEffmY Edited June 14, 2014 by Headpunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RynZelara Posted June 14, 2014 Share Posted June 14, 2014 PV cleared NiM DF 16m in a linear manner tonight. Prior to this, we had killed Draxx, Grob, and Brontes as a full guild 16m under NiM power. Our thoughts are that the instance has been super nerfed w/NiM power. Healers felt it was a snore fest, tanks were laughing at the damage taken per second, and DPS were bored with the checks. NiM C-0 on 16m will still wipe you if people don't spread out, Orbs can still 1 shot you in Brontes, and the clock phase burn can be a bit tight if people derp, so you still have to execute mechanics. Basically, as long as groups are on par with the mechanics, people shouldn't have problems with the instance in its current state. http://imgur.com/vyEffmY Yeah I've heard it described as HM damage values and checks with NiM mechanics. Which, considering the mechanics check in these two instances is not as bad as it was in NiM TFB and SV (in my opinion anyway), that isn't saying a whole lot. Basically, the general concensus from most people I've talked to is disappointment at how easy it is now. Hopefully they'll keep the NiM power buff around for DP a little longer than they did for DF, or even better, perhaps they can add NiM Power back as a selectable difficulty later on somehow, but without the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 UWA killed Tyrans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 Also Calphayus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headpunch Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Very Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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