OpeningToEndgame Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) I know they can pop evasion. However, I am constantly facing Scoundrels on The Bastion that are -always- cleansing my dots. They just keep disappearing no matter how many times I apply Affliction/CD/CT. What gives? Also in this same match. The first doors bomb was defused and 4 seconds later...It exploded. http://i.imgur.com/A3RtDnc.jpg Edited March 18, 2014 by OpeningToEndgame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxmob Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Also in this same match. The first doors bomb was defused and 4 seconds later...It exploded. http://i.imgur.com/A3RtDnc.jpg not sure if trolling or serious...but bombs were planted on both doors and only defused at one. there are no time stamps on your chat scroll to substantiate a 20s = 4s. or whatnot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainApop Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Medic ops can have evasions effective cooldown as low as 35s or so. Concealment can exfiltrate to proc evasions. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpeningToEndgame Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 Well that doesn't seem very viable to make Madness dots uncleansable if they can just roll/evade and remove them constantly. lol Also, I didn't see the East bomb planted. LOL. It was early morning and I'd had no caffeine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter_Mathis Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Well that doesn't seem very viable to make Madness dots uncleansable if they can just roll/evade and remove them constantly. lol Also, I didn't see the East bomb planted. LOL. It was early morning and I'd had no caffeine. Roll/evade is only once every 15 seconds and, though I have not verified it myself, my scrapper friend was complaining that it was not removing madness dots. Dodge cleanse is on a base 1 minute cooldown and is only able to be lowered if your are specced heals. You are complaining about a specific AC using one of their few defensive cooldowns to mitigate your damage. Under any normal circumstance, your dots are uncleansable, yet you complain. There are legions of watchmen Sentinels that would like to have a word with you in that dark alley over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimerako Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 the healer removing dots from other players is what they wanted to remove not god mode on applying dots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haystak Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) If your specced madness, you should take devour, which prevents the dots from being cleansed. Scrappers roll dodge proc will not remove madness dots while the sorc has devour in their build. The only thing a scoundrel can do is use dodge, which isnt on a short cooldown. If your dots are being cleansed because you went hybrid or middle tree, then your not specced into completely countering all of a scoundrels abilities. its a scoundrel class ability, and if a scoundrel is "rolling everywhere" thats all they are doing, in fact if they are rolling around like fools, and theres someone else to attack I reccomend doing that, they arent doing anything but escaping. You also have a lot of tools at your disposal that can make his roll very expensive and very useless(snares all over, roots, friggen sorcs are the masters of preventing people from moving.) The dodge roll proc is still effective against all tech dots....for now. Im sure in the constant churn of changes that are coming along, the chance of all dots being uncleansable could become a reality. Edited March 19, 2014 by Haystak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainApop Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) If your specced madness, you should take devour, which prevents the dots from being cleansed. Scrappers roll dodge proc will not remove madness dots while the sorc has devour in their build. The only thing a scoundrel can do is use dodge, which isnt on a short cooldown. If your dots are being cleansed because you went hybrid or middle tree, then your not specced into completely countering all of a scoundrels abilities. its a class ability, and if a scoundrel is "rolling everywhere" thats all they are doing. The dodge roll proc is still effective against all tech dots....for now. Im sure in the constant churn of changes that are coming along, the chance of all dots being uncleansable could become a reality. You are misinformed. Roll proc is dodge. At least until 2.7. Edited March 19, 2014 by CaptainApop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haystak Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) You are misinformed. Roll proc is dodge. At least until 2.7. Roll proc is dodge, but doesnt remove sorc dots who have specced into devour. I know....i have rolled many many times as a scrapper, and I still have madness dots on me. Unless a silent buff was made in the last patch I doubt this has changed. A lot of scrappers found this out the hard way when 2.5 came out. not much stink was made about it though as there were only 30 left in game anyway. I doubt their are even that many now. Edited March 19, 2014 by Haystak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diadox Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Roll proc is dodge, but doesnt remove sorc dots who have specced into devour.. This. Anyone who thinks differently has only looked at the talent on paper and not seen it in practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clocknane Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Perhaps I am wrong, but in the madness Sorc Tree doesn't devour prevent dots from being removed? It states it does. Maybe this does not apply in PVP, but I am pretty sure if you have devour they cannot be cleansed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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