TUXs Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Hopefully they can release the HM Tactical FP's shortly after the new NiM DP and DF! That should be able to be completed by this time next year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banegio Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 That's how the dev sandbag the content and plant a win-win down the track 18 months later... "New Content!!!!" "We listen to the players feedback" "All new hm fps with difficult challenges and new gear are now available" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 That's how the dev sandbag the content and plant a win-win down the track 18 months later... "New Content!!!!" "We listen to the players feedback" "All new hm fps with difficult challenges and new gear are now available" This is what I'm expecting quite frankly. I wouldn't be surprised if the new Flashpoints receive the HM treatment, together with Kuat Drive Yards, Red Reaper and Colicoid Games, around the time 3.0 hits or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terzappi Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 This is what I'm expecting quite frankly. I wouldn't be surprised if the new Flashpoints receive the HM treatment, together with Kuat Drive Yards, Red Reaper and Colicoid Games, around the time 3.0 hits or so. I can't wait to see the cartel packs coming with 3.0 . Sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slicka Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 This is what I'm expecting quite frankly. I wouldn't be surprised if the new Flashpoints receive the HM treatment, together with Kuat Drive Yards, Red Reaper and Colicoid Games, around the time 3.0 hits or so. I expect that as well. Tbh though, it seems lazy of them to do that. I'd rather new FPs with each new expansion instead of reusing old ones from launch. Obviously my opinion doesn't matter, but it'd be nice to see the odd normal mode FP geared for 55-60 at 3.0 with a couple of HM versions of new ones for 60. Kind of how Ops are. Sure TFB is still ran at 55 as well as some others, but 2.0 did bring TC, and SnV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottoattack Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 This is extremely disappointing. The "tactical" fps are a bunch of crap mad for bad dps, there is nothing tactical about them. At least Kuat had a level 10-54, which is nice for leveling. So most likely the new FPs are one boss with zero mechanics. How lame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CmdrShpd Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 This is extremely disappointing. The "tactical" fps are a bunch of crap mad for bad dps, there is nothing tactical about them. At least Kuat had a level 10-54, which is nice for leveling. So most likely the new FPs are one boss with zero mechanics. How lame... I haven't played the new FP's yet (I don't do PTS), so I'm just speculating, but I would guess that there will be more than one boss. The Czerka FP's are "tactical" and still have 3 bosses each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMightyKnight Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Oh sure there is more than one boss. But any half decent group will blast through any mechanics without even thinking. Trash is more difficult than the bosses. Which is sad because there are some nice mechanics in there. But everyone is in full 78 these days so why they came up with yet new FPs droping blue 66 items and Black Market Stuff is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVitrial Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I seem to recall swtor_miner finding references to hardmodes of both new flashpoints, as well as Kuat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_of_Stone Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 New FPs are pretty awesome actually. Me and a buddy two manned them with relative difficulty, lots of mobs, many of which are strong or higher, and gold/champion mobs with annoying cc and high damage. DEFINITELY alot harder than kuat and czerka, as far as tactical FPs go. I dont see people solo'ing these as handily as kuat. Story is cool, and if you're a kotor fan you'll like where the story is going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annabethchase Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 Oh sure there is more than one boss. But any half decent group will blast through any mechanics without even thinking. Trash is more difficult than the bosses. Which is sad because there are some nice mechanics in there. But everyone is in full 78 these days so why they came up with yet new FPs droping blue 66 items and Black Market Stuff is beyond me. Umm, everyone might be in 78's once they hit the GTN, but the % of people who run hard mode ops is low. On my server, the Dread Council is a rare feat on story mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterBlackJack Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 As of right now the PTS is up without any hard modes or any indication from the quest droids that it will be present. There was something in datamine that suggested that there is a potential hard mode as the quest droids in the dailogue as {start Hard Mode} will it make it to live servers or PTS we will have no Idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arunav Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 (edited) Sad to say but.... what you have just written it's true. There are two possibilities: 1- Devs are truly incompetent. 2-The team is so little that they have no workers to develop more qualitative and quantitative contents. I think it's the latter. Check out the credits for RotHC, which had the original staff also listed, then read over Bioware Austin for GSF, which is the 2013 team. That's the staff now. They don't have enough people to really update a game well the size of SWTOR. Which leads to a direct question: if they knowingly aren't putting out updates at a pace that holds par with other MMOs, what is EA doing with all the CM profits? And what does it plan to do with SWTOR? Last night in a random pug: "Yeah, I didn't really like the last pack, I only bought two crates." The CM is making EA/BW boadloads of money, more than enough to make up for the lower subscription numbers. Edited March 5, 2014 by arunav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I seem to recall swtor_miner finding references to hardmodes of both new flashpoints, as well as Kuat. Which sucks because it's using old FPs as "new" content. And what's up with this focus on 4 player content lately? Makes me wonder how the game is actually doing if the group sizes continue to decrease and the roles needed become phased out in favor of just 4 bodies. Arenas, FPs, "Tactical FPs"...I don't like the trend. NOTHING is going towards MORE players doing things, just less and less and less... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarsherMeow Posted March 7, 2014 Author Share Posted March 7, 2014 Confirmed on the stream that the new Tython and Korriban flashpoints won't have hard modes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDymond Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Confirmed on the stream that the new Tython and Korriban flashpoints won't have hard modes. Damn, beat me to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Confirmed on the stream that the new Tython and Korriban flashpoints won't have hard modes. Again, let's hope at least that decision is for the time being and that they'll be revisited, most likely around 3.0 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDymond Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 (edited) Again, let's hope at least that decision is for the time being and that they'll be revisited, most likely around 3.0 or so. I think that's the likely outcome: they're probably holding back so they have enough HMs to populate the level 60 tier when they release their "ROTC-sized" expansion this year. (Full-blown assumption that there will be a cap-increase in that expansion, but it seems a reasonable one.) The thing is, since we know they're not releasing NiM DP until June, I don't think a level-cap increase is going to be coming until the very end of the year. It just seems unlikely that they would release a new tier of 55 gear and then turn around and raise the level cap anytime soon afterwards. Edited March 7, 2014 by DarthDymond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarsherMeow Posted March 7, 2014 Author Share Posted March 7, 2014 I think that's the likely outcome: they're probably holding back so they have enough HMs to populate the level 60 tier when they release their "ROTC-sized" expansion this year. (Full-blown assumption that there will be a cap-increase in that expansion, but it seems a reasonable one.) The thing is, since we know they're not releasing NiM DP until June, I don't think a level-cap increase is going to be coming until the very end of the year. It just seems unlikely that they would release a new tier of 55 gear and then turn around and raise the level cap anytime soon afterwards. 2.8 will probably have housing as the GSF sized expansion with the Makeb sized expansion at the end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terzappi Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 2.8 will probably have housing as the GSF sized expansion with the Makeb sized expansion at the end of the year. So.... no new content till the end of the year... PS my last subscription's day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarsherMeow Posted March 8, 2014 Author Share Posted March 8, 2014 So.... no new content till the end of the year... PS my last subscription's day. I'm just guessing, nothing confirmed for if thats what will actually happen but thats how it seems to me. Although Bioware is pushing it since the last tier of raids we got was in October and although NM is fun really NM DF / DP should've come out with GSF and 2.7 should've had a new tier of raids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CmdrShpd Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 2.8 will probably have housing as the GSF sized expansion with the Makeb sized expansion at the end of the year. Since they've already stated that 2.8 will be the largest update the game has yet seen, wouldn't that be more likely to be the Makeb-type update? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDymond Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) Since they've already stated that 2.8 will be the largest update the game has yet seen, wouldn't that be more likely to be the Makeb-type update? If we assume the Makeb-type update includes a level-cap increase (and that is just an assumption), then it wouldn't make much sense. Since we know NiM DP is coming out in 2.8 and that NiM DF will have just come out one patch before, I really doubt they'd release a new tier of 55 progression gear that soon before (or at the same time as) they up the level cap. Edited March 8, 2014 by DarthDymond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Wicked Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 If we assume the Makeb-type update includes a level-cap increase (and that is just an assumption), then it wouldn't make much sense. Since we know NiM DP is coming out in 2.8 and that NiM DF will have just come out one patch before, I really doubt they'd release a new tier of 55 progression gear that soon before (or at the same time as) they up the level cap. ^^ This. Plus, as pointed out already, not every single major update requires an increase in level cap. I don't expect to see one of those before early-2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallorik Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I would not expect anything less from these geniuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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