Kryzite Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 So I have crafted roughly 150 orange items testing to see if they can crit and have an augement slot. I have concluded either it it VERY rare or they cannot crit craft. Anyone else done any testing? For reference the recipes I tested were: Hardweave Jacket Vagabond Chestguard. Made 70-80 of each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amiracle Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Give gifts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repefe Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Thx for the test. I compared raid drops to modded orange gear and if mods carry the set bonuses, orange gear without augment slot = raid gear. If orange gear could crit, the augment slot would be unbalancing factor between raid gear and orange gear. If mods don't carry set bonuses, orange gear will be inferior regardless of augment slot. So it's likely that orange gear can't crit and that mods do carry the set bonuses. If not the gear balance will be a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryzite Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 I think you are right, but one thing this means is that Synthweaving and Armormech are 2 very useless Crew Skills as they bring nothing to the table at 50. There is no bonus to leveling them and are a waste of time and credits. Since you cannot craft anything BIS and any orange gear can be modded to be a level 50 piece, they have nothing to sell and no benefit to the crafter. This is a serious oversight and should be fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadoken Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) I think you are right, but one thing this means is that Synthweaving and Armormech are 2 very useless Crew Skills as they bring nothing to the table at 50. There is no bonus to leveling them and are a waste of time and credits. Since you cannot craft anything BIS and any orange gear can be modded to be a level 50 piece, they have nothing to sell and no benefit to the crafter. This is a serious oversight and should be fixed. That's not entirely accurate, at least for Armormech. There are some raid tier pieces I can craft at max level, from what I saw upcoming on the trainer. And who knows what will drop from those raids for crafters, and what we can reverse engineer. Not to mention the fact that through Armormech/Synthweaving we will have the ability to craft orange versions of every type of armor look in the game. You can't get all that from questing/drops. If orange modded with raid level mods is equal to raid level gear, then that will be a huge draw to people not wanting to look like whatever the tier sets look like. It is basically this game's appearance tab. Edited December 23, 2011 by hadoken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathmvp Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 So far not one of mine have crited ether but I have only mad a dozen so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repefe Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 I think you are right, but one thing this means is that Synthweaving and Armormech are 2 very useless Crew Skills as they bring nothing to the table at 50. There is no bonus to leveling them and are a waste of time and credits. Since you cannot craft anything BIS and any orange gear can be modded to be a level 50 piece, they have nothing to sell and no benefit to the crafter. This is a serious oversight and should be fixed. All I can think of is that there is no reason to use orange wrists ... one item that could be covered by armortech. But that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repefe Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Not to mention the fact that through Armormech/Synthweaving we will have the ability to craft orange versions of every type of armor look in the game. You can't get all that from questing/drops. If orange modded with raid level mods is equal to raid level gear, then that will be a huge draw to people not wanting to look like whatever the tier sets look like. It is basically this game's appearance tab. How does that work / how do you get the schematics ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadoken Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 How does that work / how do you get the schematics ? Randomly via Underworld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryzite Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share Posted December 23, 2011 I doubt people will want to look like the shoddy leveling gear over the tier pieces. Therefore leaving the crafter with nothing of value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadoken Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 I doubt people will want to look like the shoddy leveling gear over the tier pieces. Therefore leaving the crafter with nothing of value. Apparently you didn't read some of the feedback people have posted on the tier set art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comradebot Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Apparently you didn't read some of the feedback people have posted on the tier set art This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starsunder Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 Apparently you didn't read some of the feedback people have posted on the tier set art /signed. I have found a ton of lower level orange gear that looks amazing... I checked out the tier gear and it looks like someone wanted to do a Gundam meets Star Wars look or something. It looks really bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faulhaber Posted December 23, 2011 Share Posted December 23, 2011 What about the BoP craftable recipes? I think they can crit for synthweaving at least because I've seen 4 slot pieces of all sorts but bracers/belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilda Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 has anyone made any further tests? Ive spent yesterday crafting orange armor with Kira (+5 crit synth) and nothing critted. Ive made assumptions, that even orange gear can take augment slot. Crafted gear should be after all superior, for crafting to have some meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pSyToR Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) Thx for the test. I compared raid drops to modded orange gear and if mods carry the set bonuses, orange gear without augment slot = raid gear. If orange gear could crit, the augment slot would be unbalancing factor between raid gear and orange gear. If mods don't carry set bonuses, orange gear will be inferior regardless of augment slot. So it's likely that orange gear can't crit and that mods do carry the set bonuses. If not the gear balance will be a mess. Since everyone in this thread seems to be trying stuff on Oranges I have question... If you mod your Oranges with all Artifact mods... Would you be able to make it as good as the Artifact armor drops ? I had a huge argument with one guy in my guild about that... Saying that Oranges meant nothing and they don't scale... Edited December 29, 2011 by pSyToR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repefe Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Since everyone in this thread seems to be trying stuff on Oranges I have question... If you mod your Oranges with all Artifact mods... Would you be able to make it as good as the Artifact armor drops ? I had a huge argument with one guy in my guild about that... Saying that Oranges meant nothing and they don't scale... They should be equal. For example the best PvE gear if you take enhancement and mod from it, add armoring 25, you get orange item of equal strength. That is if neither can have augment slot and if set bonuses carry over with mod or ehancement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pSyToR Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 They should be equal. For example the best PvE gear if you take enhancement and mod from it, add armoring 25, you get orange item of equal strength. That is if neither can have augment slot and if set bonuses carry over with mod or ehancement. Thanks I know I won't "win" the argument with him... cause he didn't even believe me about the "crit" crafting with the Augment slot on Green and Blue items... ;-) So I guess until he practice it himself ... he will keep the same minding ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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