DuEldrvarya Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) not enough pillar humping with unload if u died 15 times Obviously.... So Kirito I don't know what you mean. (and that was a fresh UI that I didn't have anything bound yet to, I doubt everything is bound right now, but #lowbies) Edited September 24, 2014 by DuEldrvarya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewFromPhilly Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 (edited) Did you seriously just mention a Kill/Death ratio in relation to swtor pvp? For starters, BW has no idea what an assist is and awards a "kill" for doing just about anything to someone before they are killed by other players. Autoattack someone in a mob, and bam its a kill. Sneeze in the general direction of an enemy player and bam another kill. Even just healing teammates gets you kills on the scoreboard. And that "killing blows" thing is another terrible idea, because that's also just an assist with the same colorful coating of pandering all over it. If the scoreboard were up to me, I would show solo kills under "kills" and make a separate column for assists. To be completely honest about it, the scoreboard is an inaccurate and flawed representation of what actually happened in a match. I can only assume BW did that to make the pvp in this game even more friendly towards mediocre players, or players not accustomed to multiplayer gaming. Players who would feel discouraged and stop playing if they saw what actually happened on the scoreboard - the reality of 0 kills and 27 deaths slapping them in the face simply too much to handle. /rant Edited September 25, 2014 by DrewFromPhilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuldro Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Did you seriously just mention a Kill/Death ratio in relation to swtor pvp? For starters, BW has no idea what an assist is and awards a "kill" for doing just about anything to someone before they are killed by other players. Autoattack someone in a mob, and bam its a kill. Sneeze in the general direction of an enemy player and bam another kill. Even just healing teammates gets you kills on the scoreboard. And that "killing blows" thing is another terrible idea, because that's also just an assist with the same colorful coating of pandering all over it. If the scoreboard were up to me, I would show solo kills under "kills" and make a separate column for assists. To be completely honest about it, the scoreboard is an inaccurate and flawed representation of what actually happened in a match. I can only assume BW did that to make the pvp in this game even more friendly towards mediocre players, or players not accustomed to multiplayer gaming. Players who would feel discouraged and stop playing if they saw what actually happened on the scoreboard - the reality of 0 kills and 27 deaths slapping them in the face simply too much to handle. /rant lol this kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewFromPhilly Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Can't say I'm surprised that flew over your head completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuldro Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 pls i fully understood your rant about how the way kills are displayed are retarded and dont mean anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuEldrvarya Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 Did you seriously just mention a Kill/Death ratio in relation to swtor pvp? For starters, BW has no idea what an assist is and awards a "kill" for doing just about anything to someone before they are killed by other players. Autoattack someone in a mob, and bam its a kill. Sneeze in the general direction of an enemy player and bam another kill. Even just healing teammates gets you kills on the scoreboard. And that "killing blows" thing is another terrible idea, because that's also just an assist with the same colorful coating of pandering all over it. If the scoreboard were up to me, I would show solo kills under "kills" and make a separate column for assists. To be completely honest about it, the scoreboard is an inaccurate and flawed representation of what actually happened in a match. I can only assume BW did that to make the pvp in this game even more friendly towards mediocre players, or players not accustomed to multiplayer gaming. Players who would feel discouraged and stop playing if they saw what actually happened on the scoreboard - the reality of 0 kills and 27 deaths slapping them in the face simply too much to handle. /rant You forgot to mention how relevant lvl 13 pvp is to indication of a players skill with a class... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppinswtor Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 You forgot to mention how relevant lvl 13 pvp is to indication of a players skill with a class... It's more of an indication of overall skill. Those who do well in lowbies with weak classes are more likely to be exceptional at a variety of classes because they've mastered PVP fundamentals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuEldrvarya Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 It's more of an indication of overall skill. Those who do well in lowbies with weak classes are more likely to be exceptional at a variety of classes because they've mastered PVP fundamentals. ... people are no fun... Can't even post a troll wz without people going all sentimental on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuldro Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_LasNcqwEk this video about sums up how good our server is at pvp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewFromPhilly Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 KB is an important stat No, no it's not. If one person is attacking an enemy and they kill them, awesome - if more than one player is attacking the same person inevitably one of them will get the killing blow but that has absolutely nothing to do with skill of any kind. It's essentially random at that point. Even the idea of finishing off a player that would otherwise have escaped, or something abstract like that, is flawed. First, not all classes have an ability like takedown/dispatch etc and second, the amount of HP from a given attack has nothing to do with skill, either. Landing a huge finisher is so heavily based on variables like gear, RNG, so forth and so on that it's just ridiculous. I mean, maybe you could argue for something like a carnage marauder using gore before viscous throw being more challenging as it requires another key press (impressive) but at the end of the day, big deal. What I'm basically saying is that I don't think i could disagree with you more than I already do. Tbh, i could probably write a post long enough to fill the cap detailing every little thing I find wrong about swtor pvp - how BioWare has done everything they possibly could to make it as easy as possible, and as welcoming to mediocore players as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuldro Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 inc warning for naming and shaming bads i didnt say any names Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKheartLAND Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 ... people are no fun... Can't even post a troll wz without people going all sentimental on it. You have an excuse for everything you post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambeezy Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 Potato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuldro Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 this kid is complaining about having to stand still in an MMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewFromPhilly Posted September 26, 2014 Share Posted September 26, 2014 (edited) the bloviating must continue unabated Lol no place for righteousness or reality here Edited September 26, 2014 by DrewFromPhilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake_Chambers Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 It'd be cool if you combined four of top players in their respective classes 1 tank 2 dps and Xa'vuy. They'd rekt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuldro Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 It'd be cool if you combined four of top players in their respective classes 1 tank 2 dps and Xa'vuy. They'd rekt we already do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuldro Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) As for healing, well the numbers do mean something in that case, and I easily outperform other healers when I feel like respeccing into god mode. Which is why I don't waste my time in ranked i think we should all give a special shout out to ziara a mediocre player who got super salty and insisted she was better than me and got globalled every time i saw her you should totally come back so i can dunk on you more and tell us how youre also the best op healer in the game e: note her not wasting time in ranked was due to ctrl alt elite getting rekt by the most randy of teams every time Edited September 30, 2014 by smuldro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKheartLAND Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 i think we should all give a special shout out to ziara a mediocre player who got super salty and insisted she was better than me and got globalled every time i saw her you should totally come back so i can dunk on you more and tell us how youre also the best op healer in the game e: note her not wasting time in ranked was due to ctrl alt elite getting rekt by the most randy of teams every time Could you flex any harder bro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuldro Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Could you flex any harder bro? pls i miss ziara trash talking me when she was so bad it was funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallorea Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) This post has become a source of embarrassment. I am unashamedly editing it. Edited October 27, 2014 by Mallorea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake_Chambers Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Mancit for best VG tank (at least, when he did that). Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Large_Signature Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Who's mancit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake_Chambers Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Who's mancit? No idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulcrow Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) Holy crap balls this post is old. I thought it was new and was about to trip out on Zenod. And we already combined four of the best players one time. The Horsemen, it was awesome for about five min then nobody would play us. Edited October 31, 2014 by Soulcrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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