Aurbere Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 And Kenobi works both ways. If anyone can unbalance Vader.... I was just about to say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Where were you last time this came up. I was being attacked by a one-eyed monster from the deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I was just about to say that. I just noticed I spelt Koon "kun" XD Two of them are a Little bit different, wouldn't you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I just noticed I spelt Koon "kun" XD Two of them are a Little bit different, wouldn't you say? Lol, yeah, I just noticed it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) Nvm.. Just remembered the TU was dissolved at the rise of the empire >.> Edited November 20, 2013 by Selenial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canino Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Id like to see Vader try. Even San Hill knows he's untouchable. Vader couldn't cut himself off, couldn't kill San, couldn't do anything. San kept openly finding the Seperatists, and the republic couldnt do f*** all.... He's a banker, they're slimy. Ha. Haha.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Yes, because Vader- who Hill, would mind finding a replacement for him. Hill was raised to take Plagueis' place. Hill would be constantly grooming a replacement. Or- Aruk would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canino Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) If the Techno Union knows the Banking Clan is working with the enemy, why wouldn't they get as much away from the IGBC as quickly as possible? Further more, why wouldn't the Banking Clan try to play both sides of the war like they did before? Before, they were only led by Hill. Vader changes that. And it takes more time to withdraw money to to hold it- in case of fraud, that's always the first security plan. One button to hold, two to withdraw. EDIT: I'll admit that Vader may have little on Koon. However, Kenobi has nothing on Vader- Padme is no longer an issue, and as we see, Vader is more that happy to kill his former master. Vader also has completely changed his style, rendering Kenobi's knowledge of that void as well. Edited November 20, 2013 by Canino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selenial Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Ha. Haha.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Yes, because Vader- who Hill, would mind finding a replacement for him. Hill was raised to take Plagueis' place. Hill would be constantly grooming a replacement. Or- Aruk would do. You really don't see the difference? *Sigh* Vader had legitimate reason for being able to kill Hill there. Here, the IGBC has allied themselves with him to make money. If he kills Hill, they leave. He tries to make Hill change the IGBC, they leave. He threatens Hill, they leave. Wanna know why Hill was never killed in the clone wars? There was always the option for the IGBC to just pack up and join the Seperatists. Vader could kill him because there were no more Seperatists. He cannot execute him again. He couldn't risk it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canino Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 You really don't see the difference? *Sigh* Vader had legitimate reason for being able to kill Hill there. Here, the IGBC has allied themselves with him to make money. If he kills Hill, they leave. He tries to make Hill change the IGBC, they leave. He threatens Hill, they leave. Wanna know why Hill was never killed in the clone wars? There was always the option for the IGBC to just pack up and join the Seperatists. Vader could kill him because there were no more Seperatists. He cannot execute him again. He couldn't risk it. While true, Vader can make Hill's life hell. And I mean hell. Look how Hill responds to Kenobi (a Jedi). No image Vader.... Hill will listen. Look for an example (skip to 1:28). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 Aurbere, feel free to copy and paste my thousands of responses as to why the IGBC simply will not freeze assets. Seriously, there's about 80 pages worth in my first Kaggath.I wouldn't, as they are not entirely relevant to the Techno Union. A radically different company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Before, they were only led by Hill. Vader changes that. And it takes more time to withdraw money to to hold it- in case of fraud, that's always the first security plan. One button to hold, two to withdraw. EDIT: I'll admit that Vader may have little on Koon. However, Kenobi has nothing on Vader- Padme is no longer an issue, and as we see, Vader is more that happy to kill his former master. Vader also has completely changed his style, rendering Kenobi's knowledge of that void as well. But why wouldn't the IGBC want to try to play both sides? They've done it before. Kenobi has himself over Vader. Think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 I don't recall Plo Koon ever dueling in front of Skywalker before, nor do I recall them working often enough for Skywalker to learn much about him.This is probably the case but the same certainly can't be said for Kenobi, who is an a distinct disadvantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canino Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Beni, can I have an answer to my question? Is Kuat in the period of the Galactic Empire? Cause, its sort of relevant to my strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canino Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 But why wouldn't the IGBC want to try to play both sides? They've done it before. Kenobi has himself over Vader. Think about it. The IGBC, as seen , can be easily swayed (skip to 1:28). And Vader killed him. Think about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 You really don't see the difference? *Sigh* Vader had legitimate reason for being able to kill Hill there. Here, the IGBC has allied themselves with him to make money. If he kills Hill, they leave. He tries to make Hill change the IGBC, they leave. He threatens Hill, they leave. Wanna know why Hill was never killed in the clone wars? There was always the option for the IGBC to just pack up and join the Seperatists. Vader could kill him because there were no more Seperatists. He cannot execute him again. He couldn't risk it.Now now lets not be condescending this early in to the Kaggath (and preferably not at all) - and that goes for you to Canino. Let's keep this match clean. Anyway, just to throw in my opinion on this. I don't think we should just assume that Hill is untouchable here. Vader operates via Imperial policy, not the policy of the Republic and the Separatists. After the Clone Wars the Empire subjugated countless companies and absorbed them into the imperial machine. I doubt they all agreed willingly to just allow the Empire to take over and dictate to them, but the Empire managed to 'persuade' them. Now the IGBC were left intact, but that's only in reference to their destruction of various other companies, they were by no means autonomous. I think the possibility of Vader controlling them should be considered. P.S. Abandoning factions is against the rules, unless you are defecting. Now defection is also a possibility, but if that ever happened I suspect Vader would hunt down and slaughter San Hill and his lackeys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 Beni, can I have an answer to my question? Is Kuat in the period of the Galactic Empire? Cause, its sort of relevant to my strategy.Whatever point is the height of their power, which I would assume is the Imperial period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canino Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Now now lets not be condescending this early in to the Kaggath (and preferably not at all) - and that goes for you to Canino. Let's keep this match clean. Anyway, just to throw in my opinion on this. I don't think we should just assume that Hill is untouchable here. Vader operates via Imperial policy, not the policy of the Republic and the Separatists. After the Clone Wars the Empire subjugated countless companies and absorbed them into the imperial machine. I doubt they all agreed willingly to just allow the Empire to take over and dictate to them, but the Empire managed to 'persuade' them. Now the IGBC were left intact, but that's only in reference to their destruction of various other companies, they were by no means autonomous. I think the possibility of Vader controlling them should be considered. P.S. Abandoning factions is against the rules, unless you are defecting. Now defection is also a possibility, but if that ever happened I suspect Vader would hunt down and slaughter San Hill and his lackeys. My apologies Sel. If I came off condescending, I truly apologize. We're all friends here, and I hope I didn't offend anyone. However, I was only acting in defense of myself. That doesn't excuse it, though. So, my apologies. Hope were cool . Anyways- I agree with this. The Techno Union's credits would be seized, whether or not the IGBC wants to. You said it yourself- they're bankers, they are slimy. They only care about their well being. So if threatened, they will listen. Now, all I need is a nice world to produce my new droids.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canino Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) Whatever point is the height of their power, which I would assume is the Imperial period. Huzzah! Kuat will be crippled by the IGBC's presence there as well! Well, maybe not crippled. But damaged. Edited November 20, 2013 by Canino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I don't see why the Banking Clan would just seize the Techno Unions assets. At least not right away, which gives the Techno Union time to make a withdrawl. Now, all I need is a nice world to produce my new droids.... What 'new' droids? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Whatever point is the height of their power, which I would assume is the Imperial period. Wouldn't it be the New Republic/Galactic Alliance era? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beniboybling Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 Wouldn't it be the New Republic/Galactic Alliance era?Well I'm no expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Well I'm no expert. Well, as far as I'm aware, Kuat never decreased in size, and my leaders are New Republic leaders. Soooo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canino Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I don't see why the Banking Clan would just seize the Techno Unions assets. At least not right away, which gives the Techno Union time to make a withdrawl. Why wouldn't they? They, along with Vader would know that the Techno Union is an enemy. They would likely seize the account before Vader even said to, in order to please him. After all, they know how he reacts to failure. What 'new' droids? Its all part of my plan. Its not essential, but a nice touch. The Techno Union is a company with needs. Workers to pay, supplies to pay for, and the costs of producing and exporting the droids. If its finances where to be seized, it would collapse. Unless... someone decided to help. The FE is that person. The Techno Union has no ties to the AE besides being a supplier, and even then, the AE would use Republic/Democaratic laws. And the Techno Union is a corporate entity meaning that the AE will not go after Tambor as Vader would Hill. The AE has no direct control over it. If it were to be bought by the FE, there is nothing the AE can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canino Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Well, as far as I'm aware, Kuat never decreased in size, and my leaders are New Republic leaders. Soooo... I'll need to check, but the time period may not matter. Just looked. It says Galactic Republic. So, yeah... it may still be capable of doing damage, as the IGBC was never truly destroyed. Oh, and its the Inter Galactic Bank of Kuat, if anyone is curious. A nice little sub of the IGBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurbere Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Why wouldn't they? They, along with Vader would know that the Techno Union is an enemy. They would likely seize the account before Vader even said to, in order to please him. After all, they know how he reacts to failure. Again, I don't believe they would do it right away. And I don't think they would do it unless they were told to. The Banking Clan played both sides of the Clone Wars, it's likely they would attempt to do the same here, giving the Techno Union time to withdraw their funds. Its all part of my plan. Its not essential, but a nice touch. The Techno Union is a company with needs. Workers to pay, supplies to pay for, and the costs of producing and exporting the droids. If its finances where to be seized, it would collapse. Unless... someone decided to help. The FE is that person. The Techno Union has no ties to the AE besides being a supplier, and even then, the AE would use Republic/Democaratic laws. And the Techno Union is a corporate entity meaning that the AE will not go after Tambor as Vader would Hill. The AE has no direct control over it. If it were to be bought by the FE, there is nothing the AE can do. Why wouldn't the Techno Union have its own assets? And I'm sure Mon Mothma could keep Tambor around in the event that the Banking Clan did seize its assets (which I still find unlikely, give an example of them doing that during a war). I'll need to check, but the time period may not matter. Just looked. It says Galactic Republic. So, yeah... it may still be capable of doing damage, as the IGBC was never truly destroyed. Oh, and its the Inter Galactic Bank of Kuat, if anyone is curious. A nice little sub of the IGBC. What exactly are you saying here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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