michaelsith Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 A question to all the parsers out there that are in the top 5 of their class, what seems to be the average DPS/TTK that you get while parsing. I'd like to know just so I have something to compare to when parsing on all of my alts trying to make sure i'm playing the class correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasCool Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Story of my life, except mine was pretty much full of angry lol. Thank god for lucky crits, right? yea, they do tend to make a meh day better T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtroxSWTOR Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Is there a guide anywhere on how to parse? For instance how can I get my op dummy changed to the right settings, killable, 1mil hp etc.? Also is there a way to parse during flashpoints as practice to get an idea of where Id stand going into an operation? Sorry if this is posted somewhere. I checked. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaka_Blue Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Not sure if srs Oh I'm very serious. I'm #1 with this parse on my home server and I noticed this would make me #5 on world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasCool Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 A question to all the parsers out there that are in the top 5 of their class, what seems to be the average DPS/TTK that you get while parsing. I'd like to know just so I have something to compare to when parsing on all of my alts trying to make sure i'm playing the class correctly. Considering the Top Parses haven't been updated in a while, it's kinda hard to say but it seems like anywhere from 4m 30s to 4 min for TTK in general. I think slightly under if you roll in place in sab. dotsmash, scrappers/concealment and pyro mercs are on the high end of that dpswise (and thus low-end TTK). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALoveShot Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) What's your gear/rotation/apm looking like currently? My current gear is here And my best parse to date is here Think i may be on the right track just waiting for crits i guess xD Edited February 19, 2014 by ALoveShot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THoK-Zeus Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) Skagor - Vengeance 4/36/6 - 3726 - 4m 27.912 (although the dummy died half a second before that, but i guess that was just a bug out, that time is from enter combat to the last shatter hit) Parse: http://www.torparse.com/a/596813/time/1392851412/1392851680/0/Log AMR: Edited February 19, 2014 by THoK-Zeus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RynZelara Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 A question to all the parsers out there that are in the top 5 of their class, what seems to be the average DPS/TTK that you get while parsing. I'd like to know just so I have something to compare to when parsing on all of my alts trying to make sure i'm playing the class correctly. I can't speak for Handcuff since he has slightly better gear and less latency issues than I do (grr all I want is on eparse where I break 3650 D= ) but my average DPS between all the parsing I've done recently is around 3450-3500 when I get decent crits. It's probably closer to 3450 on average. *hopes to himself that Handcuff's numbers are roughly the same on his average parse* His are probably closer to 3500 on average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RynZelara Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Can anyone tell me how this man got such a good apm? ive been parsing alot and havent got anything close to 42.4 lol. Handcuff's parse Hit more buttons....no seriously, hit more buttons. After you get the rotation down pat, work on just using everything faster. If your double ticks are particularly favorable and your 4pc set bonus decides to proc consistently, then you'll see a slight variance in APM toward the favorable side. But other than that, if you have the 4pc set bonus and you know the rotation, just do it faster honestly. Practice stuff like hitting your next ability after Telekinetic Throw as SOON as you can without clipping TK throw, and making sure your next ability gets used the instant your last one is done. I generally button mash to accomplish this (except for TK throw obviously), but even with the changes to GCD bug, I find my latency pushing my APM consistently to 41.8 instead of the 42.2 or higher I know I'm capable of (I once had an APM of 42.73, it was nuts. =P) Edited February 20, 2014 by RynZelara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTap Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I can't speak for Handcuff since he has slightly better gear and less latency issues than I do (grr all I want is on eparse where I break 3650 D= ) but my average DPS between all the parsing I've done recently is around 3450-3500 when I get decent crits. It's probably closer to 3450 on average. *hopes to himself that Handcuff's numbers are roughly the same on his average parse* His are probably closer to 3500 on average. My latency on that server was about 90-100 for parsing, but my average parse was probably closer to 3450 as well. My current 3676 was just extremely lucky rng Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDotter Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Wait the average lighting parse is only 3500? Madness I can easily get 3500+ 9/10 times without rng. Got this http://www.torparse.com/a/596008/time/1392879792/1392880075/0/Damage+Dealt last night which I believe is highest balance/madness parse. I know Pelera (sp) had a 443.8 one not sure though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RynZelara Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Wait the average lighting parse is only 3500? Madness I can easily get 3500+ 9/10 times without rng. Got this http://www.torparse.com/a/596008/time/1392879792/1392880075/0/Damage+Dealt last night which I believe is highest balance/madness parse. I know Pelera (sp) had a 443.8 one not sure though Balance is also far less dependent on RNG. Not COMPLETELY less, but it is much less dependent on RNG. In Balance, your RNG consists of PoM procs, which to be fair, can make bad things happen if it doesn't proc. In TK, your RNG consists of TkT procs, TkW procs (it IS possible to go 5 or 6 disturbances without a TkW proc, I've done it *cry*), and double ticks on FOUR different moves, which directly affects the cooldown of a skill that dramatically helps to keep TK DPS up. The 4pc set bonus is not mentioned because both specs rely on that proc. So I can totally see the average parse of Balance being slightly higher. =) It just doesn't really ever spike up if things are going well. TK does, and quite a bit at that. =o I've had parses in TK where my DPS spikes by over 100 after a Mental Alacrity (sometimes as high as 3800-3900 after my third Mental Alacrity use) only to drop to a 3550 by the end of the parse because the crits and double ticks in the second half are absolute garbage. =( I love the spec to death, but I'm so glad they're removing the RNG on TkT and TkW procs. It's going to make the damage much more streamlined, albeit still pretty dependent on double ticks. I've actually run out of Tremors during a parse before. Now THAT'S bad RNG. Edited February 20, 2014 by RynZelara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDotter Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Balance is also far less dependent on RNG. Not COMPLETELY less, but it is much less dependent on RNG. In Balance, your RNG consists of PoM procs, which to be fair, can make bad things happen if it doesn't proc. In TK, your RNG consists of TkT procs, TkW procs (it IS possible to go 5 or 6 disturbances without a TkW proc, I've done it *cry*), and double ticks on FOUR different moves, which directly affects the cooldown of a skill that dramatically helps to keep TK DPS up. The 4pc set bonus is not mentioned because both specs rely on that proc. So I can totally see the average parse of Balance being slightly higher. =) It just doesn't really ever spike up if things are going well. TK does, and quite a bit at that. =o I've had parses in TK where my DPS spikes by over 100 after a Mental Alacrity (sometimes as high as 3800-3900 after my third Mental Alacrity use) only to drop to a 3550 by the end of the parse because the crits and double ticks in the second half are absolute garbage. =( I love the spec to death, but I'm so glad they're removing the RNG on TkT and TkW procs. It's going to make the damage much more streamlined, albeit still pretty dependent on double ticks. I've actually run out of Tremors during a parse before. Now THAT'S bad RNG. Makes sense, why I've always been a madness advocate I hate procs & stuff like that. Just didn't believe the difference in a top five parse & a average parse was 100-230 dps whereas madness high/low is 20-30. I do wish madness could perma shield raid members for progression purposes. I remember during NM S/V helping dulfy shield & offheal on certain phases and was like please no. On specs I believe madness is dead as of 2.7 W/wrath change & rotation being LS> FL> LS >FL >wrath > repeat. Force issue galore. Hybrid is potentially back though im swapping to tank Edited February 20, 2014 by JDotter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falver Posted February 20, 2014 Author Share Posted February 20, 2014 Wait the average lighting parse is only 3500? Madness I can easily get 3500+ 9/10 times without rng. Got this http://www.torparse.com/a/596008/time/1392879792/1392880075/0/Damage+Dealt last night which I believe is highest balance/madness parse. I know Pelera (sp) had a 443.8 one not sure though From the perspective of statistics, the number of skills you use are fairly low in number and each skill has an extremely high sample size of ticks and it's unlikely for you to see really outrageous crits in one direction or the other in a series of parses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RynZelara Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Makes sense, why I've always been a madness advocate I hate procs & stuff like that. Just didn't believe the difference in a top five parse & a average parse was 100-230 dps whereas madness high/low is 20-30. I do wish madness could perma shield raid members for progression purposes. I remember during NM S/V helping dulfy shield & offheal on certain phases and was like please no. On specs I believe madness is dead as of 2.7 W/wrath change & rotation being LS> FL> LS >FL >wrath > repeat. Force issue galore. Hybrid is potentially back though im swapping to tank Nah I think there will still be an ICD on FL, they just didn't mention it in the patch notes. That would be retarded. =/ Also yeeeaaah, Lightning/TK is incredibly RNG dependent. It's not unusual for me to get a parse as BAD as 3200 (it does happen occasionally), and then get a 3500 the very next parse. One of the other things that sticks out between the two specs is the sheer higher amount of actual "hits" in Madness (about 200 higher!) as opposed to Lightning, assuming both have the same TTK. This evens out the crit rate much more in Madness as opposed to Lightning, since the main damage dealer in Madness (on a move-by-move basis) is FL, and that is much more reliable on crit since it hits twice as much as Lightning's main damage dealer, LS. Not to mention all the dot ticks that go out. Since TB is an auto crit in Lightning, that has no RNG associated with it except for the double tick, but even then, my Turbulence (TB) hits for at most 8600 without relics and as high as 9800 with relics. So whether your Turbulence falls under no, one, or two relics, as well as other high-damaging moves (which Lightning is FULL of) can affect DPS a fair bit as well. In short, fail RNG is fail. It's still gonna be more RNG dependent than Madness even after 2.7, but QoL in Lightning is gonna be much better than in Madness due to force management. =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_o_s_e_s Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 So this is what I have been busy doing, desperately trying to get a good parse on this sage all week and last night I finally got one ! Heartilly - Sage - Telekinetic - 3648.87 (4:34.377) http://www.torparse.com/a/596096/time/1392806706/1392806980/0/Damage+Dealt AMR Profile - Still have 1 Obroan Relic and 2x Orconian Implants, not that I will ever get that crit again anyway but there are dreams one can have lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RynZelara Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 So this is what I have been busy doing, desperately trying to get a good parse on this sage all week and last night I finally got one ! Heartilly - Sage - Telekinetic - 3648.87 (4:34.377) http://www.torparse.com/a/596096/time/1392806706/1392806980/0/Damage+Dealt AMR Profile - Still have 1 Obroan Relic and 2x Orconian Implants, not that I will ever get that crit again anyway but there are dreams one can have lol AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH *asplodes* Must parse better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTap Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 So this is what I have been busy doing, desperately trying to get a good parse on this sage all week and last night I finally got one ! Heartilly - Sage - Telekinetic - 3648.87 (4:34.377) http://www.torparse.com/a/596096/time/1392806706/1392806980/0/Damage+Dealt AMR Profile - Still have 1 Obroan Relic and 2x Orconian Implants, not that I will ever get that crit again anyway but there are dreams one can have lol Damn that would have beaten me if bis! Nice parse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_o_s_e_s Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Damn that would have beaten me if bis! Nice parse Thanks man, I have been trying for a bit now to make it on this world board on my sage and it finally worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uriaces Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Kishekzun-Vigilance-Guardian EDIT: better one( very slightly...xd) http://www.torparse.com/a/597404/time/1392887272/1392887530/0/Damage+Dealt I don't knwo wht he does't take my last hit so my time wirth enter/death is : 10:07:52.067 Kishekzun enters combat. 10:12:10.375 Kishekzun 4Min 18,308 = 3871 3900 is so clooooose :'( . Edited February 20, 2014 by uriaces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaidensareno Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Broken link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uriaces Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Broken link Yep, problem solved ^^! I think it will be very difficult to make another fight like that. Holly crit on every big atack, near perfect try. Edited February 20, 2014 by uriaces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandellon Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 http://www.torparse.com/a/597384 Now I know there is 7k damage missing in this. I'm not sure why torparse decided to cut log at the moment I exit combat. However in Log View, if you go to the very end http://www.torparse.com/l/597384 everything that was missing from Analitycal View is there, including those WS hits after "exiting" combat but before dummy death. Quite peculiar behaviour of torparse, so if that log doesn't make it to the list, I wont complain. If you think this is fine and thats how torparse usually behave when killing blow comes for WS or similar ability, then 12:22:52.763 Hôpë enters combat. 12:27:17.086 Hôpë kills Operations Training Dummy. TTK - 4:24:323 - 3783.25 dps Let me know what you think of that strange parse crop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uriaces Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Muldoon-Guardian-Vigliance-4/36/6-(4:28.36) http://www.torparse.com/a/596050/2/0/Damage+Dealt http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/e8dbce8f-d58f-4eee-a2d3-ade3998870e6 Nice try mate with poor crit on OS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajaxduo Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 (edited) Parse. AMR. TTK 4mins 34secs/3646.44 DPS. Missing a few things, DF Implant and Relic. Datacrons to...but ohwell! Edited February 22, 2014 by Ajaxduo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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