paowee Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) B'oarder you're just trying to call extra attention to the bug, don't play dumb Actually no, I was pretty excited when I heard about it and then some guildies said that pyro is rigged and was a bit let down tbh. also.. I mean it could've been answered the first time it was asked. like what the guy above me finally said.. Edited October 23, 2013 by paowee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakingNews Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) 3330.31 DPS 6/36/4 arsenal, will update my amr shortly PS: screw u crit Edited October 23, 2013 by BreakingNews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countpopeula Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) Ranick, Carnage, 3518.09 http://www.torparse.com/a/467048/time/1382594386/1382594690/0/Overview AMR http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/cec694c7-53bd-447d-83d1-2673c90a072d Looks like 124 Crit is the new metabuild... http://www.torparse.com/a/467048 You can take a look at the progression if interested for the Maras interested in empiricals to back up putting Crit Rating back into gear. Pure Power is the first 5 parses, then up to 62 Crit for 3 parses, then 124 for 4, Blue stim and Adrenaled up for the last 3. There are a couple of nonfactor ones in there where I either lagged out and ruined the parse or entered combat to build stacks. Overall the Crit builds had a higher median parse. Granted this is a small sample group and I will back it up with more testing later next week, but I think the numbers speak for themselves. Edited October 23, 2013 by countpopeula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehMron Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) Smugglles - Gunslinger - Saboteur - 7/36/3 - 3723.18 dps AMR profile: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/4340ad31-193b-4d49-917f-ce6273c731ee http://www.torparse.com/a/467032/time/1382509579/1382509885/0/Overview Edited October 23, 2013 by TehMron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordKantner Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Kantner - Commando - Assault Hybrid - 0/13/33 - 3228 DPS Log Link: http://www.torparse.com/a/467072/time/1382512527/1382512828/0/Damage+Dealt AMR Profile: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/3e433278-2fe9-45a4-8ef0-0e248daf4e3e I would like to dedicate this parse to Epic Sax Guy. Best parse music period. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZcmTl_1ER8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odawgg Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Actually no, I was pretty excited when I heard about it and then some guildies said that pyro is rigged and was a bit let down tbh. also.. I mean it could've been answered the first time it was asked. like what the guy above me finally said.. I'm just giving you crap buddy lol... It just has been explained several times in this thread already so I thought you were trolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinslayer Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) Got a bunch of stuff recently so here we go again. Marisi - 6/36/4 - Arsenal Mercenary - 3427.28 Log: http://www.torparse.com/a/467238/time/1382534426/1382534730/0/Overview Marisi - 2/8/36 - Pyro Mercenary - 3719.71 Log: http://www.torparse.com/a/467239/time/1382530864/1382531231/0/Overview AMR: Same as always (updating now). Edited October 23, 2013 by Kinslayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericterminator Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) How can any of you guys do so much dps I'm a sage balance and I can barely do 2500 dps I'm almost full 72 only my 72 glove missing with some 78 or 180 armoring belt wrist offhand 1 implant without a stim my bonus damage is around 1518 my willpower is about 3230 0r so augments are willpower I got underworld power proc relic and elemental damage relic I try a power click arkanian relic and still cant do 2500 if someone could give me some tip or help me I don't know if I'm doing something wrong my rotation is mind crush weekend mind sever force, force imbalance and tk until cool down is over and start over try difference rotation but not better Edited October 23, 2013 by ericterminator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehMron Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 How can any of you guys do so much dps I'm a sage balance and I can barely do 2500 dps I'm almost full 72 only my 72 glove missing with some 78 or 180 armoring belt wrist offhand 1 implant without a stim my bonus damage is around 1518 my willpower is about 3230 0r so augments are willpower I got underworld power proc relic and elemental damage relic I try a power click arkanian relic and still cant do 2500 if someone could give me some tip or help me I don't know if I'm doing something wrong my rotation is mind crush weekend mind sever force, force imbalance and tk until cool down is over and start over try difference rotation but not better One thing is you want to throw in some insta-cast disturbances when possible instead of exclusively using TkT as filler. The trick is to figure out how many you can squeeze in while still making sure you'll get the insta-cast proc again before your mind crush comes off cool down. But that change wouldn't be enough to bring you way up into the 3k range. To be honest, I'm not really sure how those sages parse so high (especially in balance). They must be using their cool downs really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericterminator Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Thanks for the reply so far the highest dps I did on torparse was 2366 never got higher then that I try disturbance in the mix but dose not seem to help much I like to know to how sage do so much dps I'm getting frustrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crux- Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) How can any of you guys do so much dps I'm a sage balance and I can barely do 2500 dps I'm almost full 72 only my 72 glove missing with some 78 or 180 armoring belt wrist offhand 1 implant without a stim my bonus damage is around 1518 my willpower is about 3230 0r so augments are willpower I got underworld power proc relic and elemental damage relic I try a power click arkanian relic and still cant do 2500 if someone could give me some tip or help me I don't know if I'm doing something wrong my rotation is mind crush weekend mind sever force, force imbalance and tk until cool down is over and start over try difference rotation but not better I just posted my Balance sage parse 2 or 3 pages ago. It's not up on the OP yet, but I should rank 2nd. I can give you some tips. I've been doing Sage dps since release and am best with Balance spec. http://www.swtor.com/community/showpost.php?p=6871657&postcount=203 Gearing: - Make sure you have as close to 110% force accuracy as possible. - ALL mods should be willpower/power. You can buy 78 belts/bracers for best in slot. - The lower the crit the better. But accuracy/power enhancements are hard to come by. So if you have to use accuracy/crit enhancements its fine. I'm using 2 at the moment. - After accuracy is good, 1-2 power/alacrity is acceptable. I use 1. power/surge enhancements for everything else. - Don't use Implants/Ear that have crit on them. - Relics, elemental damage relic is not best in slot anymore. Get a serendipitous assault paired with a boundless ages. General rotation guidelines: Force In Balance on cooldown, no exceptions. Keep Weaken Mind and Sever Force up at all times. Do not reapply until they drop. Only use Mind Crush with Presence of Mind proc. Only use Disturbance with Presence of Mind proc. Throw rocks. Some rotation tips: Don't use disturbance if Mind Crush is below 50% cooldown. Just wait and use PoM with Mind Crush. Goal is to be casting Mind Crush on cooldown (with PoM). If force drops below 25%, only use disturbance to keep your focal point stacks full. Use Boundless Ages after you've freshly applied dots. Always spend Force Potency charges on Force In Balance and Telekinetic Throw. If you are in a fight with multiple targets always use 1 charge on Tk Throw FIRST then do FiB otherwise FiB will eat both charges. Tips on a good parse: - Parse until you RNG a 40%+ crit chance. Edit: Also it's worth noting to not forget the people parsing at the top are nearly full best in slot 78's already. I'm probably more than halfway there and everything not 78 is 75's. So that's a big gear difference than the mostly 72's you said you are in. So don't be discouraged. Edited October 23, 2013 by Crux- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crux- Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 To be honest, I'm not really sure how those sages parse so high (especially in balance). They must be using their cool downs really well. What's funny is I say the exact same thing about TK sages. On average I parse about 100 less in TK and have never been able to do as well in TK than I do in Balance. But I used Balance primarily in progression raiding, so I'm just more familiar with it. Had to force myself to be comparable in TK so I could use it in NiM Styrak. When I started trying to push my TK numbers, managing cooldowns at exactly the right time and right way is what eventually boosted my numbers. Something that just comes as second nature to me in balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericterminator Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Thanks for the tips I will try but one question what is pom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crux- Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Thanks for the tips I will try but one question what is pom Presence of Mind - procs from crits on Tk Throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTap Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Was messing around with crit and got a nice parse with almost no crit Handcuff - Sage - Telekinetics - 3/36/7 - 3394.96 - 3642.79 http://www.torparse.com/a/467484/time/1382554118/1382554428/0/Overview AMR updated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakingNews Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Jesus christ mari calm down, holy crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crux- Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Was messing around with crit and got a nice parse with almost no crit Handcuff - Sage - Telekinetics - 3/36/7 - 3394.96 - 3642.79 http://www.torparse.com/a/467484/time/1382554118/1382554428/0/Overview AMR updated Wow that is impressive. Nice job! If possible, could you do me a favor and record yourself doing a parse sometime. I'd like to get a good look at the minor details and timings you use, hopefully make some improvements on my use of the spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTap Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Wow that is impressive. Nice job! If possible, could you do me a favor and record yourself doing a parse sometime. I'd like to get a good look at the minor details and timings you use, hopefully make some improvements on my use of the spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paowee Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) Was messing around with crit and got a nice parse with almost no crit Handcuff - Sage - Telekinetics - 3/36/7 - 3394.96 - 3642.79 http://www.torparse.com/a/467484/time/1382554118/1382554428/0/Overview AMR updated Awesome stuff. **Grabs parse and posts it on blog** AMR same as before? Edited October 23, 2013 by paowee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crux- Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Nice thanks. I see where doing balance screws me up in tk. I see wm drop and feel the need to immediately reapply it. Doing so I invariably always end up with out of sync timing on turb for the crit. I can see where waiting like you do to reapply would make this much better. Also. Press buttons faster. haha. 42apm. In balance my 33 is good. That might be the lowest APM of any dps haha. Actually I wonder now. What spec/class has the lowest APM I wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namesaretough Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Aww you have me on your friends list. I feel all warm and fuzzy now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KTap Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 (edited) Aww you have me on your friends list. I feel all warm and fuzzy now. Removed. Awesome stuff. **Grabs parse and posts it on blog** AMR same as before? No, was just messing around with multiple pieces of gear, and tried a 62 crit parse. Ended up having really nice crit chance. My AMR in the op should be updated for the gear I was using. Edited October 23, 2013 by KTap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menolord Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Menoslinger Sab spec (7/36/3) 3735.72 Dps http://www.torparse.com/a/467491/time/1382554612/1382554962/0/Overview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namesaretough Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 (edited) Hybrid Evrydayimsmggln - Gunslinger - Hybrid - 5/18/23 - 3639.48 Log: http://www.torparse.com/a/467675/time/1382561680/1382561987/0/Damage+Dealt AMR: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/674550e1-9a79-4a33-b814-57c3abf50604 DF: Evrydayimsmggln - Gunslinger - Dirty Fighting - 5/5/36 - 3502.87 Log: http://www.torparse.com/a/467837/time/1382567022/1382567331/0/Damage+Dealt AMR: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/9992abc9-7219-4290-a9a4-0d1a8b132488 Sab: Evrydayimsmggln - Gunslinger - Saboteur - 7/36/3 - 4063.87 Log: http://www.torparse.com/a/467957/time/1382571892/1382572224/0/Damage+Dealt AMR: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/55cc22ba-de1d-4ca0-9622-114c65aee1f7 Same AMR links, updated for new gear. Edited October 24, 2013 by namesaretough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falver Posted October 24, 2013 Author Share Posted October 24, 2013 (edited) Menoslinger Sab spec (7/36/3) 3735.72 Dps http://www.torparse.com/a/467491/time/1382554612/1382554962/0/Overview AMR please. Edit: Claimed - Gunslinger - Saboteur - 36/3/7 - 4090.05 http://www.torparse.com/a/468145/time/1382584084/1382584384/0/Damage+Dealt Crit adrenal. Edited October 24, 2013 by Falver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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