Superman_AZ Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Dude, that's a running joke I got going with Andyah. It was said in jest. Why so serious? Get over yourself. Next time you want to include someone in your running joke that involves someone else, you might want to clue them in. I take people at face value and seldom assume someone I don't know insulting me is just joking with me. Get to know me, joke with me, but don't just lead with the joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianDavion Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 I wouldn't have done anything to thank subcribers myself. the people whining for special stuff aren't gonna be happy and the vast bulk of subscribers are eaither happy or are going to unsub (anything I do will be temporary at best after all) so I'd not have wasted my time and money on it. I'd certinly not have bothered to hand what amounts to a 5 dollar gift certificate to every subscriber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthSabreth Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 I do like the 500 CC we get monthly. I also love the double XP weekends, some don't like it, I really don't understand why but to satisfy everyone make it a legacy purchase for everyone that wants it. have it activate on weekends only for those that want it or for a higher price make it perminatly activate all week long account wide. make it cartel coin only and BW still makes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toweleeeie Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Always double xp or even triple. I really want my 4 buffs but troopers are so boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackavaar Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Next time you want to include someone in your running joke that involves someone else, you might want to clue them in. I take people at face value and seldom assume someone I don't know insulting me is just joking with me. Get to know me, joke with me, but don't just lead with the joke. Dude, I've posted in many of the same threads as you for a long time. I would have thought you would have read a post or few of mine by now and know my style. Sorry you took it wrong. We kool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine-Elf Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Dude, I've posted in many of the same threads as you for a long time. I would have thought you would have read a post or few of mine by now and know my style./QUOTE] That's Superman for ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajikMyst Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 -------> your monthly cartel coin grant covers this. Separately, I'm fine with the non-recurring thank you's received to date from Bioware for subscribers. I've received a founders title, a couple different pets, a free month of sub, 2800 free cartel coins the day F2P went live, and now 500 more CCs. All just for playing a game I enjoy and would play anyway. I'm grateful for the things they have given me since launch. They did not have to do any of it, and while I don't use the title or the pets.. the rest is appreciated as it is useful to me within the framework of playing the game. ^^ Pretty much this!!! I feel more appreciated here after 2 years of play than I did with WOW after 5 and a half.. I am happy with the perks I get for being a subscriber.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SithKoriandr Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Always double xp or even triple. I really want my 4 buffs but troopers are so boring. Roll a BH then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SithKoriandr Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 I don't mind the cash shop. I do mind everything being random and costing extreme amounts of CC. I get it. They want the sub to buy more CC a long with the sub, but somethings should just be a given. Appearance designer? Species change costing CC. Makes sense to me. Changing hair? No. RNG Dye Packs? Yeah. Thanks for taking the sub fee, but forcing me to pay obscene amounts of money to get one color combination I might want. Want to make me pay more and still show appreciation? Save RNG Packs for F2Pers, and give me the sub the chance to just purchase whatever dye combo I want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaronV Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Something along these lines would work. Of course this is just a template 3 Month Rewards Self powered harvester kit* Holonet Terminal Translator Terminal Control Array Holonet Tracking Console Protocol Droid Miniature Replica R2 Droid Miniature Replica 6 Month Rewards A Crate of Free Resources* YT1300 Passenger Lounge YT1300 Modular Seating TIE Fighter Miniature Replica X-wing Miniature Replica Any 3 month reward 9 Month Rewards Figurine Display Stand Houseplant Any 3 - 6 month reward 12 Month Rewards Database Input Terminal System Readout Terminal Main Systems Databank Holonet Databank Jabba the Hutt Miniature Replica Stormtrooper Miniature Replica Any 3 - 9 month reward. 15 Month Rewards Imperial Guard Hologram Cu-pa Miniature Replica Any 3-12 month reward 18 Month Rewards Imperial House Rug Rebel House Rug Any 3 - 15 month reward 21 Month Rewards Jedi Starfighter Hologram Sand Crawler Hologram Any 3 - 18 month reward 24 Month Rewards Death Star Hologram A Fireplace Any 3 - 21 month reward 27 Month Rewards Princess Leia Hologram Dewback Miniature Replica Any 3 - 24 month reward. 30 Month Rewards Yoda Hologram Emperor's Chair Any 3 - 27 month reward 33 Month Rewards Jawa Hologram Rancor Miniature Replica Any 3 - 30 month reward 36 Month Rewards Boba Fett Figurine AT-AT Miniature Replica Any 3 - 33 month reward 39 Month Rewards Extra Inventory Deed* Respec Voucher* Any 3 - 36 month reward 42 Month Rewards Luke Skywalker Hologram Darth Vader Hologram Any 3 - 39 month reward 45 Month Rewards Miniature Salacious Crumb Replica Miniature Tusken Raider Replica Any 3 - 42 month reward 48 Month Rewards Mynock Familiar* Gackle Bat Familiar* Mouse Droid Familiar* Any 3 - 45 month reward 51 Month Rewards Geonosian in Carbonite Gungan in Carbonite Ugnaught in Carbonite Any 3 - 48 month reward 54 Month Rewards Storyteller Token for Elite Creature City Banner Kit Podracer Statue Any 3 - 51 month reward 57 Month Rewards Storyteller Token for Elite Creature Homing Beacon Any 3 - 54 month reward 60 Month Rewards Hover Chair* Any 3 - 57 month reward 63 Month Rewards Remembrance Day Yoda Fountain Empire Day Emperor's Statue Any 3 - 60 month reward 66 Month Rewards Life - Jedi Temple Miniature* Death - Destroyed Jedi Temple Miniature* Any 3 - 63 month reward 69 Month Rewards Gamorrean Greeter* Any 3 - 66 month reward 72 Month Rewards Darth Maul Statue Mace Windu Statue Any 3 - 69 month reward 75 Month Rewards Exotic Plant Any 3 - 72 month reward 78 Month Rewards Flight of the Veteran Any 3 - 75 month reward 81 Month Rewards Neural Recon Network Terminal Any 3 - 78 month reward 84 Month Rewards A choice between 2 consoles Star Destroyer Console Row Star Destroyer System Console The problem with this is it is FULL of lore breaking stuff... does no one care anymore that this game is set 3300 years BEFORE Star Wars (1977)? Took the trouble to highlight a few in orange. dont know if i missed any Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dassvidanja Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 I'd give everyone a folded, $100 bill and then wait for them to come to me and complain how its folded. /thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SithKoriandr Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 The problem with this is it is FULL of lore breaking stuff... does no one care anymore that this game is set 3300 years BEFORE Star Wars (1977)? Took the trouble to highlight a few in orange. dont know if i missed any Isn't the idea of holotrainers lore breaking? Hell, just the idea of saying "Oh hey, I gained a level! Train me this new skill!" seems kinda lore breaking. At least compared to how Luke trained with Yoda versus how we train with trainers. Also, know what else is lore breaking? Everyone running around in a slave bikini on a Republican Fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeweledleah Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 higher monthly cartel grant. permanent cartel market discount (20% sounds reasonable, I think, both on cartel items and legacy unlocks bought with coins). random uncommon item from one of the packs as once a month gift. for starters. and before you say anything, I just took Secret World's subscription terms almost verbatim... a game that incidentally has a much less restrictive f2p model. and no, I'm not comparing games, they are very VERY different games. i'm merely comparing subscription models, based on the fact that both games started out as subscription only and ended up converting to "subscription optional" model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Moonshadow Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) Isn't the idea of holotrainers lore breaking? Hell, just the idea of saying "Oh hey, I gained a level! Train me this new skill!" seems kinda lore breaking. At least compared to how Luke trained with Yoda versus how we train with trainers. Also, know what else is lore breaking? Everyone running around in a slave bikini on a Republican Fleet. Holotrainers kind of work like Do-It-Yourself videos and those Billy Blanks Tai-bo DVDs. And if running around in skimpy under is bad lore, how do you think the future RPGs will look at us in 3,000 years? "I equip my Booty Shorts of Twerking with a +75 bonus to [bLEEP] popping." "I hate playing Earth 2013. All these skimpy outfits are just so lore breaking." Edited July 10, 2013 by Darth_Moonshadow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowermanx Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) The problem with this is it is FULL of lore breaking stuff... does no one care anymore that this game is set 3300 years BEFORE Star Wars (1977)? Took the trouble to highlight a few in orange. dont know if i missed any Hmm, I think you forgot to read the first line of that post. I'll post it again for you. Something along these lines would work. Of course this is just a template. Edited July 10, 2013 by Mowermanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 The problem with this is it is FULL of lore breaking stuff... does no one care anymore that this game is set 3300 years BEFORE Star Wars (1977)? Took the trouble to highlight a few in orange. dont know if i missed any That list was the official SWG list for veteran rewards. I don't think the person that posted the list intended for those exact items to be offered here....rather it was posted only to serve as an example of how it can be done by showing how it was done in SWG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzoorrzz Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Exclusive gear, exclusive quests, exclusive unlocks. It doesn't really matter... just make it exclusive. I don't care about things I can get as non subscriber too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MajikMyst Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) You could only choose 1 of those things every three months you don't get them all. How is that running the business dry? It adds diversity to the subs rewards that is all. It was a proven system that worked! This is how it is done right! SWG failed as a game.. I don't think that is how you do anything right.. Bioware is trying to make money.. Not lose it.. Copying a failed game is not wise.. WOW has millions of players.. Millions more than SWG ever had.. In fact 10's of millions more than SWG ever had.. WOW didn't have that.. Maybe you are just wrong.. It is nice to know that SWG was liked by some people.. But don't kid yourself.. It wasn't a very good game and it wasn't very popular with anyone.. Not even a vast majority of Star Wars fans.. http://users.telenet.be/mmodata/Charts/Subs-2.png At it's best, it had a measly 300k subs.. For the last 5 years it was online, it had less than 150k.. So please.. Don't ask Bioware to copy something that clearly didn't work.. Thanks.. Edited July 10, 2013 by MajikMyst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XantosCledwin Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 drawing inspiration from Star Trek Online's Subscription Perks I could see the following laid out as possible perks based on the number of days that a person remains subscribed: 100 Days of Subscription Time Unique Title, preferably a Legacy Title as it would apply to all characters on your accountFree Adaptable Armor (this would be unique to the Subscription Perk System, probably gloves or a hat or something at this juncture)permanent 1% Experience Boost to all characters on your legacy. This would stack with all other Experience boosts (such as Double XP, Experience Boost Items, Guild Experience Boosts and Future Boosts from the Perks Program. 200 Days of Subscription Time Unique TitleSome sort of unique accessory for your ship, either something for the interrior design of the ship, or a weapon or something only available to subscribers.Another minor free adaptable armor pieceAn additional permanent 2% Experience Boost, this adds itself to the one for the previous perk and is stackable with everything mentioned previously. 300 Days Subscription Time Unique TitleFree Character SlotCustom Subscriber Only EmoteAn additional 3% Experience Boost, Stackable with everything mentioned. 400 Days Subscription Unique TitleIf implemented by the time this is, perhaps a free use of the ability to change advanced classes, usable only once.Free Access to a Subscriber only Recreational Area.Vanity Pet - Subscribers OnlyAn Additional 4% Experience Boost, Stackable with everything mentioned. Total Subscriber Legacy Boost to Experience = 10%. 500 Day Subscription Most everything beyond this point was Star Trek Specific, but I think there is stuff that can be added to Star Wars the Old Republic past the 500 day point if people thought about it. That said, most of the other lists I looked at were a bit difficult to implement on the massive level that I think they would need to be implemented to be of much if any realistic use. At least the way this is set up a character can be offered a few nice things without breaking the game too much. That said, I would like to point out, the way that Subscriptions are currently tracked in this game does not directly lend itself to a system where we are tracked based on how long we have been subscribed, rather we are tracked based upon how long we have left in our current subscription. So for those of us who currently have been subscribed for a rather long time (some since the beta), I don't know if your subscriptions from that far back would be counted towards a perk system such as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordArtemis Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 SWG was and is not the only game to have milestone reward systems. It is just one example. STO also has a similar system as far as I know. It's not about copying a system from a "failed" game, it's about adding a system to a game that would encourage subscription. I will go out on a limb here and state that, though opinion, I would bet dollars for donuts the Veteran reward system had NOTHING to do with SWGs demise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexDougherty Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 I would give them the emote "the Fonz" which could only be used by subscribers (becomes unusable if you become preferred). If the Fonz emote is no good how about the emote "Eat chocolate bar" or the emote "Eat a cookie", or possible the emote "make fun of Darth Baras" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morfius Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Simple answer - veteran rewards - 3 months, 6 months, 1 year & so on... BOA/L titles, mounts, pets, reusable XP/REP buffs, armor sets, weapons and everything that can be put currently on CM (not P2W, not game braking).I don't care if they sell recolored versions on CM, I am still using my DE STAP (have some more mounts in collection)... it may be even better because would serve on 2 purposes, give us something as thank you and generate revenue in CM as current recolored STAPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damagedhalo Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 I don't get it. I'm not going to piss & moan about the OP or the idea....but seriously. Why is 500 bonus CC not enough? I mean it's not like you are owed anything....the "Thank You" is the 525 monthly sub coins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morfius Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) I don't get it. I'm not going to piss & moan about the OP or the idea....but seriously. Why is 500 bonus CC not enough? I mean it's not like you are owed anything....the "Thank You" is the 525 monthly sub coins. It is not about enough, it is about creativity and advertising. CC as one time reward are pure laziness, nothing new here, subs got some included in price of sub. Advertising it with secrecy created high expectations. Combination of both is not really well taken. Edited July 10, 2013 by morfius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alavastre Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 I don't get it. I'm not going to piss & moan about the OP or the idea....but seriously. Why is 500 bonus CC not enough? I mean it's not like you are owed anything....the "Thank You" is the 525 monthly sub coins. What are you talking about? We are owed what we think our 15 bucks buys us. We are the freaking customers! And when BW doesn't give their players what they think they are owed, they leave. The Thank you is not 525 monthly CC. That was to keep subs in the game. Imagine if you subbed and got 0 CC. Could you imagine? Honestly you are showing a lack of business and economic understanding. And don't be fooled, they gave you nothing. Just added numbers to a digital registry. It's not actually 5 dollars to BW. It's only 5 dollars to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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