ladylnet Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I did a few PvP couple were great lots of fun then next game not so fun against a team most almost all never died in the game. Then I was hit hit with damage points 3348 3060 2226 6337 4705 4219 3600 3603 4035 3309 6074 big numbers I would say so but kicker the server had a oops 3 PvP going on the server was at standard and poof humm When I piped up and said the numbers some jerk said oh I can do those at level 20 u just go do that I'll get popcorn and a six pack:rak_02: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kweassa Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) I did a few PvP couple were great lots of fun then next game not so fun against a team most almost all never died in the game. Then I was hit hit with damage points 3348 3060 2226 6337 4705 4219 3600 3603 4035 3309 6074 big numbers I would say so but kicker the server had a oops 3 PvP going on the server was at standard and poof humm When I piped up and said the numbers some jerk said oh I can do those at level 20 u just go do that I'll get popcorn and a six pack:rak_02: . About 6 months ago, the average HP of players with full sets of PvP gear would range in between 19k to 22k, depending on the gear level. Hefty hits would count around 2.5~3k damage, and people would complain about the heaviest hitters doing a one-shot 4~5k damage after the set-up. Now, the players are 5 levels higher than they used to be, with more powerful gear, and they range in between 25 to 32k HP. If we just compare roughly the max value, the HP has increased around 45%. However, all of the damage you have brought up, has not increased a bit with the exception of the two numbers over the 6k range... in which case, compared to the 5k hits 6 months ago, is a mere 20% increase. ... So, just exactly from where, are we supposed to notice, that these damage numbers you've brought up is abnormaly high...? Edited May 23, 2013 by kweassa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baalzamon Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I did a few PvP couple were great lots of fun then next game not so fun against a team most almost all never died in the game. Then I was hit hit with damage points 3348 3060 2226 6337 4705 4219 3600 3603 4035 3309 6074 big numbers I would say so but kicker the server had a oops 3 PvP going on the server was at standard and poof humm When I piped up and said the numbers some jerk said oh I can do those at level 20 u just go do that I'll get popcorn and a six pack:rak_02: . Healing are even stronger than that my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirGusto Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 honestly, all those are non crit hits except for the 6ks. Also, those 6k hits are just the low end of the spectrum. If you think thats a hard hit, i wonder what your reaction will be when you get hit with 8k-9k crits in 55 pvp. As a power dps shadow, melee bonus damage over 800, 3k-4k are just regular, expect it, get used to it. WIth surge around 75% or so, maybe a relic power proc or 2, and that damage goes way up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noobie-Wan Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I got an 8.5k crit off my 50 merc in PvP last night, I thought it was awesome, I doubt the guy on the other end felt as good about it as I did though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupidsyrup Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Man I'm tired of hearing the whining about 6k+ hits. Suck it up, you should easily have almost 30k HP in 10-29, 25k+ in 30-54, and 38k plus in 55. Plus heals will outdo that so fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DimeStax Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Only 6k? DPSers in my guild are hitting for 11-12k o.O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rynis Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 and 38k plus in 55. I don't think all 55s are tanks, but I get what you're saying 6k hits in a 30k health pool are the same as 4k hits in a 20k health pool... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladylnet Posted May 23, 2013 Author Share Posted May 23, 2013 And one hit I was gone one arggg I like the well balanced games its fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keypek Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I did a few PvP couple were great lots of fun then next game not so fun against a team most almost all never died in the game. Then I was hit hit with damage points 3348 3060 2226 6337 4705 4219 3600 3603 4035 3309 6074 big numbers I would say so but kicker the server had a oops 3 PvP going on the server was at standard and poof humm When I piped up and said the numbers some jerk said oh I can do those at level 20 u just go do that I'll get popcorn and a six pack:rak_02: . That was one heck of a sentence. And you must have been getting attacked by a VG/PT or else the numbers would have been much bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JouerTue Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 these are crits or finishers and now you have about 30k hp..so not so op..smash in elite war hero was 7-8k even before.. and maul or dispatch easily above 5k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K_osss Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I play a Focus Sentinel in min/max partisan gear and a few conqueror pieces. And I PvP on that character exclusively. I'm good but not great and have been tracking my max damage numbers and average damage numbers since 2.0 released. First off, I've never hit above 9567 damage but for that to happen I would need some combination of the following (probably most of these things): Probably might stim3 stacks of SingularityForce Leap or Zealous leap in the last 20 secondsPower relic proc (or both) 30% chance lasts 6 seconds on 20 sec cdPvP damage boostAnother sentinel using Inspiration (15% damage boost for 15 sec on 300s cd)Opposing player in PvE gear (bolster not maxing his Expertise and therfore not the full 37.5% damage reduction) I don't play excessively (probably PvP about 10 hrs a week) and I've had 2 hits over 9k. I can't speak for mando's because I don't have an equally geared mando character that I PvP with but I imagine most of the 10+k hits are the exception rather than the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnzoForMe Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I don't think all 55s are tanks, but I get what you're saying 6k hits in a 30k health pool are the same as 4k hits in a 20k health pool... Would you like some ghost'cake with that math? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teclado Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) Would you like some ghost'cake with that math? 6/30 = 0.2 4/20 = 0.2 BTW...what is ghost cake? The best hit that I have done is a little over 7K with my TK sage. That's with a willpower stim. Then again, I don't log my damage numbers because I use an SSD, so I may have hit harder at some point when the stars aligned. I have full partisan gear, about half of which is min/maxed. Edited May 23, 2013 by teclado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnzoForMe Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 6/30 = 0.2 4/20 = 0.2 BTW...what is ghost cake? Wouldn't you like to know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teclado Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Wouldn't you like to know! Ok, I googled it. Looks ghoulishly yummy! Anyway, I thought you were implying that the math was bogus, like ghost or phantom math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashogy_reborn Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 people are complaining about 6k hits? i hit for 8-10 on the regular with demo round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeJagoff Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) About 6 months ago, the average HP of players with full sets of PvP gear would range in between 19k to 22k, depending on the gear level. Hefty hits would count around 2.5~3k damage, and people would complain about the heaviest hitters doing a one-shot 4~5k damage after the set-up. lol average HPs were 19-22k like 1 month ago. Now average HPs in the lowbie bracket are like 22-25k.....yet big 7-9k hits are common. I had a 9k ambush on my gunslinger, 8k maul on my sin, 7k backstab on my op, 10k smash on my guardian. For the health pools not being too much higher than pre 2.0, the hits seem to be really disproportionate right now. Before, big hits like 5-6k mauls with 19k hp could be bad, but it was only ~25% of your hp, now you can get hit with a 9k smash/maul/ambush/etc. with possibly only 22k hp and lose almost half of your healthpool from 1 hit. Everything is just out of whack in 2.0, op damage and op healing, not necessarily the fault of any specific class per se, but just the super huge expertise damage boosts now and weirdo bolster that could "make you more even to compete" or possibly screw you for wearing the wrong piece of gear, i.e., battlemaster/recruit/wh relics/etc. And this has got to be an intended design for huge hits, because after all, the old "5k annihilator" medal became a 6k medal. Before 2.0, I rarely got a 5k hit on my op or sin or commando......now 6k+ is a guaranteed hit at least once per match. As for smash specifically, that was overpowered before 2.0 and still overpowered, but the devs won't ever change it, clearly. Edited May 23, 2013 by SomeJagoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauerkraut Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Boohoo nerf damage, I keep getting killed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Use heal, medpack, common sense and L2P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeJagoff Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Boohoo nerf damage, I keep getting killed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Use heal, medpack, common sense and L2P. That's very helpful, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladylnet Posted May 23, 2013 Author Share Posted May 23, 2013 Whats really bad is when they stand below where you jump into the pvp and kill you there my feet touched the ground i was dead how fun is that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rynis Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Would you like some ghost'cake with that math? WTB renames. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreatFrosty Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 I did a few PvP couple were great lots of fun then next game not so fun against a team most almost all never died in the game. Then I was hit hit with damage points 3348 3060 2226 6337 4705 4219 3600 3603 4035 3309 6074 big numbers I would say so but kicker the server had a oops 3 PvP going on the server was at standard and poof humm When I piped up and said the numbers some jerk said oh I can do those at level 20 u just go do that I'll get popcorn and a six pack:rak_02: . Seriously... this must be a troll, no one can be this without a clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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