evilmoka Posted April 25, 2013 Author Share Posted April 25, 2013 I just found out you can equip all greens mk1 augments remove or add these after entering a warzone and you get about 40% overall boosted stats There are methods beyond this since some people are hitting for 14k on commandos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skotish Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Well I have effectively stopped playing pvp till this is fixed so BW where is my reimbursement !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilmoka Posted April 25, 2013 Author Share Posted April 25, 2013 BIOWARE PLEASE READ THIS Remove bolster Other than PVP gear, NOTHING gives expertise Everyone gets as many free recruit sets as they want. The sets sell for o credits. Each set has the FULL expertise. Partisan and conqueror only add stats as ALL SETS have the same expertise. If your expertise is not capped at 2018, you cannot even que/enter a warzone. Removing gear in warzones will be forbidden. This includes augments, mods etc. Crafting missions and crew skill interaction also disabled while inside so people are not distracted. What does this do? It makes people who just start or only do casual pvp the ability to only be maybe 30% lower than full conqueror. It also prevents ANY bugs with bolster. Obviously you guys don't know how to implement a bolster system properly so it needs to be removed. This game isn't a beta and I don't enjoy having to learn the latest bolster bugs to be competitive in pvp. Please fix bolster 100%%%%%% or implement the above which is better in the long run and makes it easy for you guys. 3 sets only. Other games like wow if you wear pve gear and stuff u get owned. This game should be the same. Hence full expertise requirement to enter wz's and that full expertise is granted with the free set that MUST be worn (or better). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanchito Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 A question phrased like that sounds like someone wants to take advantage of a PvP exploit. This is why I advise bugs that are found, should be submitted through bug reports---not posted for others to read and take advantage of it. Posting them here, may get the Dev attention, however it also will backfire ending up in more people taking advantage of the system. There are better ways of going about it IMO. At this point i feel like we should take advantage of them, and publish vids / screenshots wherever we can. This would at least force them to fix it :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groncho Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 bump FIX THIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brannicus Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 This is clearly being exploited.. Immortals and Smell My Finger on Jung-Ma actively use this crap. How do we know? The hits they do on you give them away. I have seen 10K, 12K, even 15K hits. BW says if you see anything over 9K to let them know.. 9K is supposed to be the maximum hit in PVP, now people are approaching double that. I have given up on PVP till all of this, and all of the other nonsense is addressed. I don't even bother with dailies any longer. PVP is officially dead in SWTOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majram Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 oh pls BW, do something before it is too late... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darknsith Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 This is clearly being exploited.. Immortals and Smell My Finger on Jung-Ma actively use this crap. How do we know? The hits they do on you give them away. I have seen 10K, 12K, even 15K hits. BW says if you see anything over 9K to let them know.. 9K is supposed to be the maximum hit in PVP, now people are approaching double that. I have given up on PVP till all of this, and all of the other nonsense is addressed. I don't even bother with dailies any longer. PVP is officially dead in SWTOR. Just witnessed a 13k demo round last warzone about 20 mins ago. This is getting crazy. Something NEEDS to be done. At least lets get some Dev attention in here. People shouldn't be pullling numbers like that WITHOUT EVEN WEARING ANY CONQUERER GEAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryRow Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 You may be right, and "cats out of the bag" so I may as well give in. As much as I feel this will have very negative side effects UNTIL it is fixed, I'll happily oblige <snip> Long story short, Bioware needs to fix this. From what I've been told it's even worse the better your gear and augments get despite how expensive it is to do this. I've sent bug reports on it, but not sure when/if a fix is in sight. But screenshots were requested. Here they are! Oh brother, that is not just a minor change, that is a huge change. But can anyone confirm that you actually need to add or remove the augments? You can't just zone in with empty slots and get the bug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 A question phrased like that sounds like someone wants to take advantage of a PvP exploit. This is why I advise bugs that are found, should be submitted through bug reports---not posted for others to read and take advantage of it. Posting them here, may get the Dev attention, however it also will backfire ending up in more people taking advantage of the system. There are better ways of going about it IMO. Normally, I would 100% agree with you... But Bioware DID know about this, on PTS even, yet they've failed every claim to have "fixed" it. They act as if this game is in beta and they have a few more builds before it goes live to get back to it. I know their staff has been cut, but that's no excuse for sloppy coding. If the people there can't fix it, obviously they have the wrong people doing the job and change should be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUXs Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 You may be right, and "cats out of the bag" so I may as well give in. As much as I feel this will have very negative side effects UNTIL it is fixed, I'll happily oblige START OF WARZONE EVERYTHING IN, STATS NORMAL: http://www.hvndgalaxy.com/profile/4975445/pics/detail/album_id/266282#pid=1665926 REMOVE ONE AUGMENT, EARPIECE, NOTICE STAT CHANGE INCREASES: http://www.hvndgalaxy.com/profile/4975445/pics/detail/album_id/266282#pid=1665927 REMOVE SECOND AUGMENT, IMPLANT#1, NOTICE MORE STAT CHANGE INCREASES: http://www.hvndgalaxy.com/profile/4975445/pics/detail/album_id/266282#pid=1665928 REMOVE THIRD AUGMENT, IMPLANT#2, NOTICE EVEN MORE STAT CHANGE INCREASES: http://www.hvndgalaxy.com/profile/4975445/pics/detail/album_id/266282#pid=1665929 PLACE ALL AUGMENTS THAT WERE REMOVED BACK IN, NOTICE EVEN MORE STAT CHANGE INCREASES: http://www.hvndgalaxy.com/profile/4975445/pics/detail/album_id/266282#pid=1665933 BEFORE: DMG: 1081-1458 ACC: 97.76% CRIT: 24.90% CRIT MULTIPLIER: 72.69% HP: 26,227 TECH BONUS DMG: 1098.17 TECH ACC: 107.76% AFTER: DMG: 1183-1560 ACC: 98.05% CRIT: 26.51% CRIT MULTIPLIER: 74.37% HP: 30,312 TECH BONUS DMG: 1203.81 TECH ACC: 108.05% Long story short, Bioware needs to fix this. From what I've been told it's even worse the better your gear and augments get despite how expensive it is to do this. I've sent bug reports on it, but not sure when/if a fix is in sight. But screenshots were requested. Here they are! Thank you for the screen shots...I appreciate the time and effort you put in to take them. It demonstrates the issue perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revcrisis Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 You may be right, and "cats out of the bag" so I may as well give in. As much as I feel this will have very negative side effects UNTIL it is fixed, I'll happily oblige START OF WARZONE EVERYTHING IN, STATS NORMAL: http://www.hvndgalaxy.com/profile/4975445/pics/detail/album_id/266282#pid=1665926 REMOVE ONE AUGMENT, EARPIECE, NOTICE STAT CHANGE INCREASES: http://www.hvndgalaxy.com/profile/4975445/pics/detail/album_id/266282#pid=1665927 REMOVE SECOND AUGMENT, IMPLANT#1, NOTICE MORE STAT CHANGE INCREASES: http://www.hvndgalaxy.com/profile/4975445/pics/detail/album_id/266282#pid=1665928 REMOVE THIRD AUGMENT, IMPLANT#2, NOTICE EVEN MORE STAT CHANGE INCREASES: http://www.hvndgalaxy.com/profile/4975445/pics/detail/album_id/266282#pid=1665929 PLACE ALL AUGMENTS THAT WERE REMOVED BACK IN, NOTICE EVEN MORE STAT CHANGE INCREASES: http://www.hvndgalaxy.com/profile/4975445/pics/detail/album_id/266282#pid=1665933 BEFORE: DMG: 1081-1458 ACC: 97.76% CRIT: 24.90% CRIT MULTIPLIER: 72.69% HP: 26,227 TECH BONUS DMG: 1098.17 TECH ACC: 107.76% AFTER: DMG: 1183-1560 ACC: 98.05% CRIT: 26.51% CRIT MULTIPLIER: 74.37% HP: 30,312 TECH BONUS DMG: 1203.81 TECH ACC: 108.05% Long story short, Bioware needs to fix this. From what I've been told it's even worse the better your gear and augments get despite how expensive it is to do this. I've sent bug reports on it, but not sure when/if a fix is in sight. But screenshots were requested. Here they are! Well, Bioware Devs, here it is. Please recreate this problem on your end, and then fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearine Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Well, Bioware Devs, here it is. Please recreate this problem on your end, and then fix it. The fix is very simple. They have only to type: delete [drive:][path]Bolster after this they press Y and Enter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkwalker Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirtastropohe Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 The fix is very simple. They have only to type: delete [drive:][path]Bolster after this they press Y and Enter. Ha-ha.. yes, exactly. BAsed on the 1st two attempts to fix bolster, it isn't going to happen properly. They just don't know how to do it. Roll back and get the frak rid of this idiotic 2.0 change and go back to how it was before. If people didn't want to use the recruit gear, that's on them. Seems stupid to destroy PvP trying to cater to people who can't be bothered wearing gear given to them for free. heck, up the stats on it if you want. The current system is an exploitable hell. It has ruined PvP and it's yet another PR/implementation disaster for this game. How can you screw up Star Wars? I didn't think it was possible, but they found a way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cilas Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Why haven't we received a reply yet? Ridiculous. At LEAST give us a blanket "we are investigating.. Blah blah" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darknsith Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Well I witnessed a guild using a variation of this bug that makes my previous post laughable at best. I'm going to post some screenshots showing it but its VERY VERY bad. PLEASE lets get some word showing that something is being done or worked on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilmoka Posted April 25, 2013 Author Share Posted April 25, 2013 Well I witnessed a guild using a variation of this bug that makes my previous post laughable at best. I'm going to post some screenshots showing it but its VERY VERY bad. PLEASE lets get some word showing that something is being done or worked on. I saw the same guild using it as well. GREEN gear + a variation of the augment trick yields 40% boosted stats roughly. About 40k hp and crits over 12k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkwalker Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Why haven't we received a reply yet? Ridiculous. At LEAST give us a blanket "we are investigating.. Blah blah" For real! Admitting there is a problem is the first step to recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cilas Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 For real! Admitting there is a problem is the first step to recovery. They really should be making their own post and request constructive feedback that will help fix the problem too. Instead they cowardly post in other threads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilmoka Posted April 25, 2013 Author Share Posted April 25, 2013 They really should be making their own post and request constructive feedback that will help fix the problem too. Instead they cowardly post in other threads They are the opposite of proactive. They are NOactive...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philastra Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 (edited) Hoping for a reply today, maybe they will after they post the question of the day..... How many credits have you spent in ripping augments out and putting them back in, while doing WZ's in the past 24 hours? Edited April 25, 2013 by Philastra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revcrisis Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 (edited) Yes, very certain combinations of augments and armorings getting removed and inputted again will gain even higher stats. It's possible to get to near 45K health and critting your abilities for 12-13K. I saw a operative running around with 950 ranged bonus damage in a warzone. Yes, you read that correctly. 950 ranged bonus damage. His hidden strike+backstab must have been hitting for god knows how much. Edited April 25, 2013 by revcrisis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanchito Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 (edited) it has been over a day now without bioware even acknowledging that they ****ed up bolster for the 3rd time in as many patches. Just tell us that you bit off more than you can chew with this system and have no *********** idea how to fix it, please Edited April 25, 2013 by sanchito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darknsith Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Hoping for a reply today, maybe they will after they post the question of the day..... How many credits have you spent in ripping augments out and putting them back in, while doing WZ's in the past 24 hours? 400 credits per warzone...yes lvl 9 augments work BETTER than lvl 55 augments (lol go figure!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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