Jaick Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) Still getting horrible stuttering, still getting sub par FPS compared to pre 1.4. What the eff? Edited October 2, 2012 by Jaick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshua Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 someone said try setting it to windowed full screen. you lose some of your top end graphics settings but my guess is if you are having lag/fps issues you've already turned them down anyways. good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screaming_Ziva Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Not only that, but the patch didn't fix a single gameplay issue that was broken with 1.4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styxx Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 not fixed the stuttering on my GTX 560 Ti single card. Still doing it with max FPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mourasantos Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 thy rage is justified, friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NinjaApacHe Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Isn't the patch solving problems for SLI? I'm at work and cannot try it out, but it says that it's a solution to that problem not for single cards. Can someone tell me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digimanbyte_ID Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Still getting horrible stuttering, still getting sub par FPS compared to pre 1.4. What the eff? New forum gag: "These resolves, they do nothing!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twighead Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 not fixed the stuttering on my GTX 560 Ti single card. Still doing it with max FPS. I have the same card and was able to fix the stuttering by reverting to driver version 301.42. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryklone Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Oh, well. For the crafting mats issue, now we wait for the patch after the patch after the patch. Hope there won't need to be a patch after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplius Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 i understand his rage for PRguys, they sure chose a weird way to communicate, instead of any serious information they just deliver this "info",,with a game that is barely functional, its like a spit in the face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnatB Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 From what I understand, there are (were?) 2 problems. The first problem, introduced in a patch previous to 1.4 (I believe, possibly really only since new NVidia drives come out?) is "relatively" minor stuttering (or so I understand). Apparently reverting the drivers will "fix" that one. The second problem, introduced in 1.4, apparently only affects cross-fire/SLI systems. This one is basically debillitating. (frame drops to low single digits whenever you start moving in most situations) Apparently turning off crossfire/SLI (which playing in windowed mode automatically achieves) or turning off nameplates/nameplate scaling will "fix" that one. Now, it looks like they'e addressed the 2nd problem for NVidia users. (Hopefully it fixes crossfire too, but I'm not going to expect it to) No reason whatsoever to think it would fix the issue with the most recent NVidia drivers though (which as I understand it is the only issue afflicting single card setups). And seeing as it does seem to be tied to a particular driver, it seems rather likely the "fix" would be on NVidia's end anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaick Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 From what I understand, there are (were?) 2 problems. The first problem, introduced in a patch previous to 1.4 (I believe, possibly really only since new NVidia drives come out?) is "relatively" minor stuttering (or so I understand). Apparently reverting the drivers will "fix" that one. The second problem, introduced in 1.4, apparently only affects cross-fire/SLI systems. This one is basically debillitating. (frame drops to low single digits whenever you start moving in most situations) Apparently turning off crossfire/SLI (which playing in windowed mode automatically achieves) or turning off nameplates/nameplate scaling will "fix" that one. Now, it looks like they'e addressed the 2nd problem for NVidia users. (Hopefully it fixes crossfire too, but I'm not going to expect it to) No reason whatsoever to think it would fix the issue with the most recent NVidia drivers though (which as I understand it is the only issue afflicting single card setups). And seeing as it does seem to be tied to a particular driver, it seems rather likely the "fix" would be on NVidia's end anyways. No it didn't address chit. And this stuttering came with 1.4 not before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) Now, it looks like they'e addressed the 2nd problem for NVidia users. (Hopefully it fixes crossfire too, but I'm not going to expect it to) No reason whatsoever to think it would fix the issue with the most recent NVidia drivers though (which as I understand it is the only issue afflicting single card setups). And seeing as it does seem to be tied to a particular driver, it seems rather likely the "fix" would be on NVidia's end anyways. QFT. This patch was to address a client malfunction with SLI. READ THE PATCH NOTES people. I'm sure one is coming for crossfire as well. No reason to wait to patch until you have them both ready. Fix those that you have ready as soon as they are ready, while working on the other. Players need to own the driver issue as it pertains to specific releases of drivers from Nvidia that are bugged. Edited October 2, 2012 by Andryah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaick Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 Players need to own the driver issue as it pertains to specific releases of drivers from Nvidia that are bugged. It's their stupid optimizations not a driver issue. Oh and guess what I already rolled back to 301 and that didnt chit. I was running 306 before 1.4 and actually had increased FPS. Now its all FUBAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalmac Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) From what I understand, there are (were?) 2 problems. The first problem, introduced in a patch previous to 1.4 (I believe, possibly really only since new NVidia drives come out?) is "relatively" minor stuttering (or so I understand). Apparently reverting the drivers will "fix" that one. The second problem, introduced in 1.4, apparently only affects cross-fire/SLI systems. This one is basically debillitating. (frame drops to low single digits whenever you start moving in most situations) Apparently turning off crossfire/SLI (which playing in windowed mode automatically achieves) or turning off nameplates/nameplate scaling will "fix" that one. Now, it looks like they'e addressed the 2nd problem for NVidia users. (Hopefully it fixes crossfire too, but I'm not going to expect it to) No reason whatsoever to think it would fix the issue with the most recent NVidia drivers though (which as I understand it is the only issue afflicting single card setups). And seeing as it does seem to be tied to a particular driver, it seems rather likely the "fix" would be on NVidia's end anyways. The two things mentioned do not fix anything they disguise the issue by making less apparent. Like putting a dress on a cow somehow fixed the dead cow. FPS are still low and all graphics turned down. So what was the point of better shadows, OH YEA so you can not use them! Edited October 2, 2012 by Metalmac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalmac Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 QFT. This patch was to address a client malfunction with SLI. READ THE PATCH NOTES people. I'm sure one is coming for crossfire as well. No reason to wait to patch until you have them both ready. Fix those that you have ready as soon as they are ready, while working on the other. Players need to own the driver issue as it pertains to specific releases of drivers from Nvidia that are bugged. Ok I have a ATI 4870 and the driver is from 2 days ago so why am I getting stutter as I have no SLI or Crossfire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillCaedes Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Ok I have a ATI 4870 and the driver is from 2 days ago so why am I getting stutter as I have no SLI or Crossfire? Thats a REALLY good question Metalmac. Perhaps Bioware should step in and explain to us why we have camera stuttering hmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Ok I have a ATI 4870 and the driver is from 2 days ago so why am I getting stutter as I have no SLI or Crossfire? Did I make any comment specifically to ATI drivers? No I did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skylerr Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) Ok I have a ATI 4870 and the driver is from 2 days ago so why am I getting stutter as I have no SLI or Crossfire? I'm running a Radeon 4870 on my work computer (SWTOR installed, but I don't play it much on this one)... loaded up the game and everything is working perfectly (FPS was never great on this card with shadows on, but no unusual stuttering). I didn't even need to do any workarounds on this computer. Logically speaking, that means something is different about your computer that is causing the problem. I'm not saying Bioware doesn't carry a responsibility for the issues (they did, afterall, follow the demands of the end users by "improving" shadows) but there are a lot of variables here. They said they are aware of the reported performance issues and they are working on it. They never said this patch would fix everything. Edited October 2, 2012 by Skylerr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cymate Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I went back to 296.10 and it solved the stuttering for my GTX 560. The 301 driver behaved the same as the most recent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackavaar Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Um, I don't think the patch will be complete until 11am PDT (an hour away still), at which time you need to log out and relaunch to get the patch. I do believe it says this right on the launcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaick Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 Um, I don't think the patch will be complete until 11am PDT (an hour away still), at which time you need to log out and relaunch to get the patch. I do believe it says this right on the launcher. Um no. Patch has been out for over 2 hours now. It was very small and did nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skylerr Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) Um, I don't think the patch will be complete until 11am PDT (an hour away still), at which time you need to log out and relaunch to get the patch. I do believe it says this right on the launcher. They released the patch notes... the only issues that are supposed to be fixed today were the character locking issue (by far the most serious) and a problem with the NVIDIA SLI profiles. As far as I can tell both of those issues were resolved as advertised. Patch notes quoted below. 1.4.0b Patch Notes 10/2/2012 General Improved performance for players using NVIDIA graphics cards in an SLI configuration. (Please use the default SLI setting or AFR2, as AFR1 will result in poor performance with SWTOR.)Corrected an issue that could prevent players from exiting their personal starship after completing Group Finder content. Edited October 2, 2012 by Skylerr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackavaar Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Um no. Patch has been out for over 2 hours now. It was very small and did nothing. Please read the launcher again. You don't have the full patch yet. The patching process started two hours ago (8am PDT). The full patch is not yet complete. It will be at 11am PDT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarbNull Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 They released the patch notes... the only issues that are supposed to be fixed today were the character locking issue (by far the most serious) and a problem with the NVIDIA SLI profiles. As far as I can tell both of those issues were resolved as advertised. Patch notes quoted below. 1.4.0b Patch Notes 10/2/2012 General Improved performance for players using NVIDIA graphics cards in an SLI configuration. (Please use the default SLI setting or AFR2, as AFR1 will result in poor performance with SWTOR.)Corrected an issue that could prevent players from exiting their personal starship after completing Group Finder content. You would think if they worked on or fixed the SLI that they would also look at the CrossFire at the same time. For me it is like playing the game with the monitor sitting on a vibrating platform. The amount of flickering and stuttering is insane for a game that was working fine before the 1.4 patch. Kind of sad really. What kind of improvements are they trying to add that would just make things so bad? To me it does not seem worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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