cybergoblin Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I play with a buddy Bounty Hunter and he seems to run at the same rate of speed I do and I have 3 points in INFILTRATOR (Move speed +15%) Is it broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Messbrah Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 It should apply to in-sealth movement speed. So you get the bump from 85% of normal -> 100% of normal with 3 specced points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanisUDL Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Tooltip is incorrect, the speed bonus only applies while you are stealthed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oghier Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Infiltrator does not stack with Sprint. It does apply in combat, however, as well as in stealth (at least, it did in Beta). So you will be faster in combat than your BH buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zootzoot Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Infiltrator does not stack with Sprint. It does apply in combat, however, as well as in stealth (at least, it did in Beta). So you will be faster in combat than your BH buddy. Yep...next time you do a WZ with your buddy try it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergoblin Posted December 20, 2011 Author Share Posted December 20, 2011 what is combat run speed normally? does it drop down below 100%? I know sprint turns off - but is combat run speed slower than regular speed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varcan Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 This NEEDS further clarification: So in BETA it did apply +15% movement speed boost wether you were in stealth or not. Now people are sayin on LIVE it only applies when in stealth. This would be stupid, as sprint still boost your speed while in stealth to as fast if not faster than the people that are already in combat. I mean I suppose if you were stalking someone in open PvP at full sprint speed then its useful, but REALLY...(I can't believe I even just mentioned that...its so utterly worthless) Basically, if this skill does apply only in stealth it is the most worthless 3 talent pts you could ever spend. If it applies to in-combat its pretty useful to stayin on target, especially if your going Concealment anyway. If someone else who has the skill will just have a run test with one of the regular movement classes, I would really appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reenolols Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 In combat = 115% Stealth = 120% Out of stealth&combat = 135% Post sprint and infiltrator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sivlar Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 This NEEDS further clarification: So in BETA it did apply +15% movement speed boost wether you were in stealth or not. In beta it worked all the time. I remember racing some friends to test it and I always outran them when we both had sprint up. So it did stack with sprint. Not sure about live, I'd have to race someone again. I think it does though because I do seem to be pulling ahead of people when we are doing open world quests. It does stack with sprint while your in stealth for live, that I am sure of. It also seems to work in combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeires Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 In combat = 115% Stealth = 120% Out of stealth&combat = 135% Post sprint and infiltrator. where on earth are you getting 120% in stealth from. stealth as standard reduces your speed to 85% of normal depending on how the talent works (additive of multiplicative) it will EITHER be 100% movement speed (IE normal) or it will be 97.75%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epixhints Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) where on earth are you getting 120% in stealth from. stealth as standard reduces your speed to 85% of normal depending on how the talent works (additive of multiplicative) it will EITHER be 100% movement speed (IE normal) or it will be 97.75%. I'm guessing he meant in combat stealth is 100%, out of combat stealth with sprint is 120%. But that doesn't make sense either. Edited December 20, 2011 by epixhints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeires Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) I'm guessing he meant in combat stealth is 100%, out of combat stealth with sprint is 120%. But that doesn't make sense either. potentially yeah. But on the topic, ive got a level 37 jedi shadow (identicle stealth and talent) and when i enter stealth i most definatly slow down. so im assuming it works multipiplictivly with the 35 speed buff. (speed buffs on mounts work this way in WoW, ie crusader aura (20%) on a 310 mount increases your speed to 372% not 330%) stealth - 85% stealth with run - 114.75 stealth with talent - 97.75% stealth with talent * run - 131.9625 as to wether or not the 15% applied OUT of stealth im not 100% someone would need a race. if so its run - 100% run with sprint - 135% run with talent - 115% run with talent and sprint - 155.25% Edited December 20, 2011 by Aeires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reenolols Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) Infiltrator and sprint DO NOT stack. Stealth = 85% + 35% of sprint = 120%. They don't stack in ANY case. And yes, infiltrator works in combat, so 115% normal run speed. Out of combat & stealth will always be the fastest at 135%. Edited December 20, 2011 by Reenolols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reillan Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Infiltrator and sprint DO NOT stack. Stealth = 85% + 35% of sprint = 120%. They don't stack in ANY case. And yes, infiltrator works in combat, so 115% normal run speed. Out of combat & stealth will always be the fastest at 135%. Except that sometimes it's a bit buggy and they do stack (which is awesome fun, btw), and sometimes it's a bit buggy and NEITHER applies... which is not so much fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuroborosX Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Anyone have a definete answer to this yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reenolols Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Anyone have a definete answer to this yet? I guess you can ignore every fact I've given you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrynen Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Tooltip is incorrect, the speed bonus only applies while you are stealthed. Not true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergoblin Posted December 21, 2011 Author Share Posted December 21, 2011 well from my own testing last night - run = 100% run with 3 points in talent = 100% We did multiple races and he moves just as fast as I do with me having the 3 points in the talent. I think thats real craptastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicSquid Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 So many people posting random numbers and not actually trying it... I know it works while stealthed, even out of combat because at one point my assassin friend noted, "hey, why are you so much faster than me?" when we were sneaking around together. However, when we were both out of stealth, we ran at the same speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tozea Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I believe that Infiltrator does work when in combat and not stealthed, when chasing other classes in pvp to catch up to them for my melee abilities I was able to catch up to everyone while they were still running, I hope it does apply to out of stealth in combat, since we're mostly melee/short ranged (10m) being able to catch up to our target is a nice little feature. For all I know it could have been lagg or some weird little thing, I tested it multiple times though so i'm not sure, srry if i'm rambling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanisUDL Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Not true. See the two posts below yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OuroborosX Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I got no idea why they made this talent so weak. Id rather have the movement speed ALWAYS work and have increased stealth higher up or in another talent. Hell, if I could choose Id choose overall movement speed over the stealth increase. But thats a personal opinion because I hate slow movement in MMOs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaksha Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Yeah high out of combat movement speed is great for impatient people (I would love it). But higher in combat movement speed is actually more useful, especially during PVP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scrynen Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 See the two posts below yours. Oh wow, what great proof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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