obi one and Darth Vader vs Revan and Yoda(Who would win)

[matijerzykom]

1. Vitiate and Nihilus used a legitamate Force technique. You disqualify them because they are immensely more powerful than Revan.

2. Exar Kun would destroy Revan. He put Luke Skywalker in a coma, as a spirit. The entire Jedi Order couldn't stop him. It took the students of Luke Skywalker to put an end to him

3. Kreia lies. I know it's so hard to believe, but she does. About everything and anything. Did Kreia say she loved them? Yes. Don't believe her. She was using the Exile... to kill... the Force. She is the ultimate liar second only to Palpatine.

4. Did she lie about Revan and Sith. Yes. She said there was no Sith Empire waiting. That's a lie. Pretty obvious one too.

 

Did you play Kotor 2 ? Kreia said that Sith empire(not sith Empire as Tor shows) wait somewhere in dark, and Revan went to fight it> I playd this game 21 times, so dont say Kreia lied. When she told Exile that she manipulated her from beginning and what are her motives did she lied. Play that game before commenting. What about revan, read Drew Karpyshyns books, "Darth Bane" trilogy and "Revan". Then say he is weak. I have one question. Why do you do everything to make Revan weak. Kotor fans like Revan not becouse of power, bu his "speciality", but he was strong, stronger than any jedi in his times. For me comparing people from other era is stupid. Why can't conversation look like this:

" Revan is nice character but i better like ObiWan and Exar Kun, becouse of this and that" -"Oh yea they are nice, but revan is awsome becouse of this and that"? Why? Answer me please. You know, its antiRevan fans are agressive, you attack our favourite character, we even dont mention him. Why cant we Talk about our beloved characters more peacfully?

Quote:There is no passion - there is a peace.

There is no ignorance- there is knowledge

There is no chaos-there is harmony.

PS; Revan's idoeology after redemption was very similar to Luke Skywalker's(except for Foundry where Revan was charactered without Drew Karpyshyn's aid)

[matijerzykom]

1.Go and learn your lore fully before making such obvious mistakes in attempts to win over an argument.

 

2.Please learn how to separate your sentences and double check your grammar.

Lore? my statments are fully developed from experienced got from Kotors and "Revan" and Tor.

 

PS: I am Polish so dont remind me about grammar

[BrandonSM]

Did you play Kotor 2 ? Kreia said that Sith empire(not sith Empire as Tor shows) wait somewhere in dark, and Revan went to fight it> I playd this game 21 times, so dont say Kreia lied. When she told Exile that she manipulated her from beginning and what are her motives did she lied. Play that game before commenting. What about revan, read Drew Karpyshyns books, "Darth Bane" trilogy and "Revan". Then say he is weak. I have one question. Why do you do everything to make Revan weak. Kotor fans like Revan not becouse of power, bu his "speciality", but he was strong, stronger than any jedi in his times. For me comparing people from other era is stupid. Why can't conversation look like this:

 

Character statements arent canon.

[MyDarkSunshine]

Vitiate did beat Revan. Revan managed to make the Sith Emperor angry, but would have died far sooner in the battle if not for the interruptions of several members of his team at critical moments (which led to said team mates deaths). It wasn't even a contest, really, and whilst Vitiate seems to consider Revan a threat, I assume that has more to do with the fact they've probed each others minds, than the actual power Revan can field.

 

Key flaw in this would be the fact Yoda is probably the size of a small child, a confined area wouldn't have as much of an impact on his fighting ability as it would for a human adult sized Ataru user. Remember Obi Wan or Vader would have to fight in this confined space too, and with Yoda using a Yoda-sized lightsaber, he has the better close-in fighting saber.

 

True. I hadn't thought of it like this; Obi-Wan may be a master of terrain, but I'm clearly not. Then it seems simply that:

 

An Obi-Wan against Yoda, Anakin against Revan set up favours Obi-Wan and Anakin.

A Yoda against Anakin, Obi-Wan agaisnt Revan set up favours Yoda and Revan.

Edited August 27, 2012 by MyDarkSunshine

[Rayla_Felana]

Lore? my statments are fully developed from experienced got from Kotors and "Revan" and Tor.

 

When you are making blatant falsified statements like 'Nomi Sunrider was only known for her Battle Meditation' when she wasn't whatsoever, that Revan could take on Exar Kun and survive and other ludicrous statements like that, you come across as someone who knows nothing at all about which they are debating.

[matijerzykom]

It's enough for me. I give up. Nothing will force you to acept my view. Tor characters suck. Do not answer cause I end this discussion.I lovem Nomi, Exar Obi etc. But for me Revan is the best of all time, becouse of his grey character and speciality. You dont acept that- your problem We shall see meatbags who will laugh last, when Tor will fall, and Kotor Origins will raise showing true awsomeness of Revan. Now I can quit .

[Aurbere]

Did you play Kotor 2 ? Kreia said that Sith empire(not sith Empire as Tor shows) wait somewhere in dark, and Revan went to fight it> I playd this game 21 times, so dont say Kreia lied. When she told Exile that she manipulated her from beginning and what are her motives did she lied. Play that game before commenting. What about revan, read Drew Karpyshyns books, "Darth Bane" trilogy and "Revan". Then say he is weak. I have one question. Why do you do everything to make Revan weak. Kotor fans like Revan not becouse of power, bu his "speciality", but he was strong, stronger than any jedi in his times. For me comparing people from other era is stupid. Why can't conversation look like this:

" Revan is nice character but i better like ObiWan and Exar Kun, becouse of this and that" -"Oh yea they are nice, but revan is awsome becouse of this and that"? Why? Answer me please. You know, its antiRevan fans are agressive, you attack our favourite character, we even dont mention him. Why cant we Talk about our beloved characters more peacfully?

Quote:There is no passion - there is a peace.

There is no ignorance- there is knowledge

There is no chaos-there is harmony.

PS; Revan's idoeology after redemption was very similar to Luke Skywalker's(except for Foundry where Revan was charactered without Drew Karpyshyn's aid)

 

I have played KOTOR II. Several times. So don't say I didn't play it. I've probably been gaming a whole lot longer than you have. Aside from that. I do believe Kreia says that there was no Sith Empire. I will be starting another playthrough of KOTOR II soon, so after I have played then I will make a more accurate statement on the matter. I have read Drew's books(atrocious as Revan was) and I can say without a doubt that Revan couldn't hold a candle to Obi-Wan or Anakin.

I would like to talk about a versus match in a peaceful manner, but Revanites(don't know if you are one, you seem like one) produce outright lies backed by absolutely zero canonical facts so that you can make Revan the victor. I've seen Revanites say that he could beat Nihilus in a fight. I try to provide canonical facts to educate those who don't truly understand Revan's power. And I never said I hate Revan. I actually like the character, but I hate when people turn him into the alpha and omega of Star Wars.

[Aurbere]

Character statements arent canon.

 

This is true. Especially in Kreia's case.

[Aurbere]

It's enough for me. I give up. Nothing will force you to acept my view. Tor characters suck. Do not answer cause I end this discussion.I lovem Nomi, Exar Obi etc. But for me Revan is the best of all time, becouse of his grey character and speciality. You dont acept that- your problem We shall see meatbags who will laugh last, when Tor will fall, and Kotor Origins will raise showing true awsomeness of Revan. Now I can quit .

 

Compared to Revan, TOR characters are waaay more powerful. JK beat a big bag guy at the current end of his story. Revan did not.

 

PS: someone tell me how to put spoiler tags. I don't know how.

[KrayvenVolcanus]

Dookoo handily pwnd Obi-wan every time they fought. Anakin killed Dookoo, but Obi-wan beat Anakin. To say that Obi-wan never lost is ridiculous. Out of the list I would say that Yoda is the last one standing. Yoda technically didn't lose against Palpatine, instead he chose to quit. If I remember correctly Palpatine was hanging off of one of the senate platforms by a fingernail when Yoda called it quits.

[Aurbere]

Dookoo handily pwnd Obi-wan every time they fought. Anakin killed Dookoo, but Obi-wan beat Anakin. To say that Obi-wan never lost is ridiculous. Out of the list I would say that Yoda is the last one standing. Yoda technically didn't lose against Palpatine, instead he chose to quit. If I remember correctly Palpatine was hanging off of one of the senate platforms by a fingernail when Yoda called it quits.

 

Actually, the collision of their power sent them both flying. Palpatine managed to get back up, but Yoda knew he couldn't win. Yoda had to live to fight another day, hence his exile to Dagobah.

[GarfieldJL]

Okay this fight doesn't boil down to Revan, all that matters concerning Revan is that he is at least competitent...

 

The fight boils down to Yoda and how powerful Yoda really is, considering Yoda's brawl with Palpatine ultimately resulted in an inconclusive draw, the Emperor called his minions to go chase after Yoda, so Palpatine was scared of Yoda, whether Yoda realized it or not.

 

Yoda utilizes Ataru is so good with it, that forms that normally can shred someone whom is using Ataru doesn't work against him.

 

As long as Revan is competitent enough to hold his own for a few minutes, the fight favors Yoda and Revan.

 

The chief problem with Obi Wan's sorseu mastery is that it lacks a serious offensive capability, Yoda can just start going after Vader and Obi Wan will not be able to do much about it. Unless Obi Wan is going to leave himself open trying to chase down Yoda; the people determining whom is fighting whom will be Yoda and Revan.

 

Yoda can easily take down Vader, and while Revan probably can't take down Obi Wan, after Yoda finishes sending Darth Buckethead to the scrap heap, Revan won't need to.

Edited August 27, 2012 by GarfieldJL

[Invictos]

In SW, Revanites are the worst, hands down.

 

Gotta give the edge to Traviss fanboys.

[matijerzykom]

I have played KOTOR II. Several times. So don't say I didn't play it. I've probably been gaming a whole lot longer than you have. Aside from that. I do believe Kreia says that there was no Sith Empire. I will be starting another playthrough of KOTOR II soon, so after I have played then I will make a more accurate statement on the matter. I have read Drew's books(atrocious as Revan was) and I can say without a doubt that Revan couldn't hold a candle to Obi-Wan or Anakin.

I would like to talk about a versus match in a peaceful manner, but Revanites(don't know if you are one, you seem like one) produce outright lies backed by absolutely zero canonical facts so that you can make Revan the victor. I've seen Revanites say that he could beat Nihilus in a fight. I try to provide canonical facts to educate those who don't truly understand Revan's power. And I never said I hate Revan. I actually like the character, but I hate when people turn him into the alpha and omega of Star Wars.

 

Sorry for my agressive comments. You are wrong.

- here are Kreia's prophecies. I am revanite, but why we do so is that Revan is only hero in SW with so aggressive antifans. We just protect our favourite character. What Kreia said is canon. It was she who told us about revan . I do not fight canon, but Revan , Obi-wan, Exar Kun etc, don't have defined power, and we cannot say who would win. Tell me what lies did i say? I only quoted what Kreia (she DIDN't lie on Malachor V its fact) said , what Wookiepedia say, and what I knowfrom Kotors. Revan had great knowledge of the Force .It's canon(he stopped powerful Force lightning, Obi Wan could not). He was great warrior(defeating mandalor and Malak isn't quest for typical Jedi). Canon too. He was powerful. We cannot deni that. Most of SW heroes are powerfull. You say I lie, cause I say Revan would defeat Nomi and Ulic or Obi. You don't know that, noone does. Luke defeate Abeloth who was multiply times stronger in Foce than he.I don't know who is stronger : Exar, Revan, Obi etc. Who cares? Han Solo is awesome character thoe he couldn't defeat even little Sith girl in single combat. I am angry cause you say Revan was week, stupid or something like that. It isn' true. He was powerfull , wise and coldbooded. He was hero, and defender, conqueror and murdere, Jedi and Sith. That's what make him so awsome character. Despite he is't alpha and omega, for me is the best SW character, it's just an opinion.

[TheronFett]

...Obi One...

 

Epic Facepalm

[JakeulWanstall]

Beings as Revan is a playable character... he's as strong as you make him. My Revan was pure awesome, and to be fair Revan do that whole thing with the thing that I'm not gonna say to avoid spoilers for people who haven't read the book or played much TOR yet... but yeah, Revan would kick all their arses.