doublechees Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Assuming I dig 50 with 3500 ranked and 2000 wz coms. What WH piece is the best to get? I was thinking the vindicator lightsaber, which would be all my comms or is it a bigger bang to get relics/implants since they dont require a BM counterpart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSolidPat Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 Assuming I dig 50 with 3500 ranked and 2000 wz coms. What WH piece is the best to get? I was thinking the vindicator lightsaber, which would be all my comms or is it a bigger bang to get relics/implants since they dont require a BM counterpart Follow what I have previously written: Here are the steps to achieve the optimal gear, assuming you are starting from full Battlemaster. I suggest you get full Battlemaster + augment your Battlemaster as you get it. Fully augmented Battlemaster is pretty much equal to Full War Hero not augmented. The order is also important. It is based on the basic item value (unmodified) and the cost incurred to optimize it. In the 1st Step, you want to prioritize the unmodified gear that gives you the best stats and in the 2nd step you want to prioritize the modification of the worst item currently equipped. * Excluded costs of: Augments, Augment kits, Augment fee and Mod ripping fee ** When turning in a Battlemaster piece to get the War Hero piece, rip the mods and keep them, especially the + Power ones. 1st Step: Pre-remodded gear: War Hero Vindicator's Lightsaber : Battlemaster Item + 3475 Ranked Comms Augment + Add Advanced Might Augment 22 War Hero Relic of Boundless Ages : 1425 Ranked Comms +200 Comms Augment + Add Advanced Might Augment 22 War Hero Relic of Boundless Ages : 1425 Ranked Comms + 200 Comms Augment + Add Advanced Might Augment 22 War Hero Pummeler's MK-1 Package: 1425 Ranked Comms + 200 Comms Augment + Add Advanced Might Augment 22 War Hero Pummeler's MK-1 Package: 1425 Ranked Comms + 200 Comms Augment + Add Advanced Might Augment 22 War Hero Pummeler's MK-1 Device : 1425 Ranked Comms + 200 Comms Augment + Add Advanced Might Augment 22 War Hero Vindicator's Generator : Battlemaster Item + 3475 Ranked Comms Augment + Add Advanced Might Augment 22 War Hero Vindicator's Handgear : Battlemaster Item + 2000 Ranked Comms Augment + Add Advanced Might Augment 22 War Hero Vindicator's Headgear : Battlemaster Item + 2425 Ranked Comms Augment + Add Advanced Might Augment 22 War Hero Vindicator's Chestguard : Battlemaster Item + 3200 Ranked Comms Augment + Add Advanced Might Augment 22 War Hero Vindicator's Boots : Battlemaster Item + 2000 Ranked Comms Augment + Add Advanced Might Augment 22 War Hero Vindicator's Greaves : Battlemaster Item + 2225 Ranked Comms Augment + Add Advanced Might Augment 22 The Belt and Bracers have been omitted because they will be the first ones to get modified. 2nd Step: Remodding the gear: *To remod our gear we use the War Hero Vindicator’s Handgear. It contains the optimal mod and the 2nd best enhancement. So while you are ripping the mods, use this enhancement to temporarily put in non-optimized gear and preferably the Boots and Pants. Juggernaut's Exalted Bracers : Purchase Juggernaut’s Exalted Bracers : 100 000 Credits Augment + Add Advanced Might Augment 22 Add Advanced Might Armoring 26 crafted by Cybertech: Mats on GTN Add War Hero Deft mod 26 by ripping the War Hero Vindicator’s Hands Mod : Battlemaster Vindicator’s Handgear (875 Comms) + 2000 Ranked Comms Juggernaut's Exalted Belt : Purchase Juggernaut’s Exalted Belt : 100 000 Credits Augment + Add Advanced Might Augment 22 Add Advanced Might Armoring 26 crafted by Cybertech: Mats on GTN Add War Hero Deft mod 26 by ripping the War Hero Vindicator’s Hands Mod : Battlemaster Vindicator’s Handgear (875 Comms) + 2000 Ranked Comms War Hero Vindicator's Boots : Add War Hero Deft mod 26 by ripping the War Hero Vindicator’s Hands Mod : Battlemaster Vindicator’s Handgear (875 Comms) + 2000 Ranked Comms Add War Hero Adept Enhancement by ripping the War Hero Force-Mystic’s Gloves : Battlemaster Force-Mystic’s Gloves (875 Comms) + 2000 Ranked Comms War Hero Vindicator's Greaves : Add War Hero Deft mod 26 by ripping the War Hero Vindicator’s Hands Mod : Battlemaster Vindicator’s Handgear (875 Comms) + 2000 Ranked Comms Add War Hero Adept Enhancement by ripping the War Hero Force-Mystic’s Gloves : Battlemaster Force-Mystic’s Gloves (875 Comms) + 2000 Ranked Comms War Hero Vindicator's Lightsaber : Add Advanced Hawkeye Crystal : Crystal Mats on GTN Add War Hero Adept Enhancement by ripping the War Hero Force-Mystic’s Gloves : Battlemaster Force-Mystic’s Gloves (875 Comms) + 2000 Ranked Comms War Hero Vindicator's Handgear : Add War Hero Adept Enhancement by ripping the War Hero Force-Mystic’s Gloves : Battlemaster Force-Mystic’s Gloves (875 Comms) + 2000 Ranked Comms War Hero Vindicator's Headgear : Add War Hero Deft mod 26 by ripping the War Hero Vindicator’s Hands Mod : Battlemaster Vindicator’s Handgear (875 Comms) + 2000 Ranked Comms War Hero Vindicator's Chestguard : Add War Hero Deft mod 26 by ripping the War Hero Vindicator’s Hands Mod : Battlemaster Vindicator’s Handgear (875 Comms) + 2000 Ranked Comms Add War Hero Adept Enhancement by ripping the War Hero Force-Mystic’s Gloves : Battlemaster Force-Mystic’s Gloves (875 Comms) + 2000 Ranked Comms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublechees Posted August 17, 2012 Author Share Posted August 17, 2012 Ok then my next question is freshly dinging 50 I wont have full battlrmasters so are you saying to use ranked coms into wz coms unti" you have the full set, or what I initially tjought was to get your wh wep first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSolidPat Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 (edited) My bad sorry, i read fast. I will give you the most optimal way given your situation: Your first thing to do would be to purchase these 2 and augment them right away: War Hero Relic of Boundless Ages : 1425 Ranked Comms +200 Comms Augment + Add Advanced Might Augment 22 War Hero Relic of Boundless Ages : 1425 Ranked Comms + 200 Comms Augment + Add Advanced Might Augment 22 You will have 650 Ranked and 1600 reg commendations left. Buy the Battlemaster Vindicator lightsaber for 1550 comms and Augment + Add Advanced Might Augment 22 Then you will purchase: Battlemaster Pummeler's MK-1 Package (Implant) Battlemaster Pummeler's MK-1 Package (Implant) Battlemaster Pummeler's MK-1 Device (Ear) ...... keep following the list from my step 1 gearing from Battlemaster to War Hero. I would even transfer your 650 ranked into normal comms to accelerate the process. Remember, Stock battlemaster augmented > Stock war hero not augmented. You will be using your battlemaster pieces longer than you think, don't hesitate to augment them, it will make quite a difference in endurance and strength. Also, as you trade your battlemaster item for the war hero, keep the + power mod!!! A battlemaster Power mod is better than a war hero non power mod, so swap it right away. You will get a good sub-optimized gear pretty fast. I don't know which spec you use either. Rage, Vengeance and Immortal don't gear the same way. My way is for a Rage Jugg. If you are looking to DPS as a Jugg I highly suggest you go Rage. Edited August 17, 2012 by TheSolidPat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublechees Posted August 18, 2012 Author Share Posted August 18, 2012 Awesome, thanks for the post. I am unsure of what spec ATM is the gear optimization for dps rhat much difference seems expertsei> main stat>power>crit>surge>accuracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSolidPat Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 (edited) The difference between the fully optimized WH and the stock WH itself is the biggest gear gap in all of the PVP gear. I would say it is like comparing non augmented Battlemaster vs fully augmented War hero. Here is my profile follow that: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/45beb788-5a88-4da2-917a-2d7fd8025578 Edited August 19, 2012 by TheSolidPat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaisies Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 The difference between the fully optimized WH and the stock WH itself is the biggest gear gap in all of the PVP gear. I would say it is like comparing non augmented Battlemaster vs fully augmented War hero. Here is my profile follow that: http://swtor.askmrrobot.com/character/45beb788-5a88-4da2-917a-2d7fd8025578 too much accuracy, should swap the enhancement w/acc for something else; and put in a acc augment, that'll put you at 105.25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublechees Posted August 19, 2012 Author Share Posted August 19, 2012 Then you will purchase: Battlemaster Pummeler's MK-1 Package (Implant) Battlemaster Pummeler's MK-1 Package (Implant) Battlemaster Pummeler's MK-1 Device (Ear) do you mean war hero? because there is no such thing as this in battlemaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSolidPat Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Purchase the battlemaster implants and earpiece. I don,t remember how they are called. But ya purchase the BM version, going straight to WH will slow the process of getting rid of the recruit gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSolidPat Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 too much accuracy, should swap the enhancement w/acc for something else; and put in a acc augment, that'll put you at 105.25 What you said raised questions in my mind, but after thinking about it, it doesn't work. Since you can only remove the enhancement with +53 accuracy and the BIS enhancement will provide +53 surge. So basically you would lose the +18 str and replace it by +18 accuracy. To sum it up : -53 accuracy, +53 surge, -18 strength , +18 accuracy At my current surge level I am not sure i want to add an extra 53 at the expense of -18 strength Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marqhill Posted August 21, 2012 Share Posted August 21, 2012 Your light saber. That's the one that you want to get first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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