earthtoearl Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 EA has stated -"For players who cancelled their subscriptions, feedback provided as they cancelled indicated that 40% were turned off by the monthly subscription fee."What about the other 60%??? I for one enjoy the game and hope to play a long time. I probly will keep a Subscription, as long as I get full access to everything and don't have to pay extra for stuff. EXAMPLE: pay $5.00 and purchase this special lightsaber. That kind of stuff led me away from City of Heroes and World of Tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarleysRule Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Just a guess, but most of the rest probably said it's WoW with lightsabers, not enough content, missing features, or some combination of all the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belizar Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 EA has stated - "For players who cancelled their subscriptions, feedback provided as they cancelled indicated that 40% were turned off by the monthly subscription fee." What about the other 60%??? I for one enjoy the game and hope to play a long time. I probly will keep a Subscription, as long as I get full access to everything and don't have to pay extra for stuff. EXAMPLE: pay $5.00 and purchase this special lightsaber. That kind of stuff led me away from City of Heroes and World of Tanks. wait is that real ? ppl playing a mmo with a sub didnt want to pay a sub and i thought WoW had limited IQ players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DahLliA Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Pretty sure that 40% said that the game wasn't worth 15 bucks a month. Which isn't the same as wanting it to go F2P... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vsalcedo Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Just a guess, but most of the rest probably said it's WoW with lightsabers, not enough content, missing features, or some combination of all the above. If you dont like lightsabers and spaceships and story then it wasnt the game for you the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fornix Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 wait is that real ? ppl playing a mmo with a sub didnt want to pay a sub and i thought WoW had limited IQ players In the days where there's over 100 million MMO players world wide, with less than 20 million subscribers, it's not much of a surprise to see 40% reporting subs as a downside. Or maybe it is, if the surprising element is that 40% is low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidpop Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 If you dont like lightsabers and spaceships and story then it wasnt the game for you the first place. You kinda missed the point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nastynas Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) You are not supposed to ask this question. Just accept the spin that 40% didn't want to pay a subscription. So, they are doing what their former customers wanted! Edited August 1, 2012 by Nastynas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthtoearl Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 You do realize the 100% is the 100% of people who have QUIT the game. It does NOT factor in anyone STILL PLAYING. Posts like this are a good example of how our educational system lags behind other countries... So you can ad 40% + 60% = 100% makes you some kind of genius? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthWoad Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 EA has stated - "For players who cancelled their subscriptions, feedback provided as they cancelled indicated that 40% were turned off by the monthly subscription fee." What about the other 60%??? I for one enjoy the game and hope to play a long time. I probly will keep a Subscription, as long as I get full access to everything and don't have to pay extra for stuff. EXAMPLE: pay $5.00 and purchase this special lightsaber. That kind of stuff led me away from City of Heroes and World of Tanks. they werent turned off by the fee. they were turned off by the game itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSaberMaster Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) The other 60% are the people who weren't happy with the lack of game options such as World PvP, not that many war zones, lack of free flight space, lack of sandbox elements and the bugs. That is just to name a few. I guess to EA/Bioware, the 40% who didn't want to pay the sub fee matters more. Go figure why the game has last so many subs with decision making like that. EDIT: And to add to this, check out the multiple 100+ page unsubscriber threads to find out why people have quit the game. I haven't seen any responses that I know (and I have read every page of each of those threads) of that suggest what they see as the "40%". Edited August 1, 2012 by DarkSaberMaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) EA has stated - "For players who cancelled their subscriptions, feedback provided as they cancelled indicated that 40% were turned off by the monthly subscription fee." What about the other 60%??? I for one enjoy the game and hope to play a long time. I probly will keep a Subscription, as long as I get full access to everything and don't have to pay extra for stuff. EXAMPLE: pay $5.00 and purchase this special lightsaber. That kind of stuff led me away from City of Heroes and World of Tanks. Dude, it was 40% of those that quit. The other 60% quit too, but for other reasons. You are part of the still playing, so you don't qualify as part of the 60% being referred to. You either need to get on topic or rename your thread IMO. Edited August 1, 2012 by Andryah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anakis Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Pretty sure that 40% said that the game wasn't worth 15 bucks a month. Which isn't the same as wanting it to go F2P... I agree. People filling out the exit survey probably meant "the game sucks and is not worth $15/month" and didn't mean "the game is fantastic but I'm leaving due to the current subscription model." Isn't it grand how they would twist the metrics to support their f2p decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catsmeat Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I think if you read the big "why I quit" thread with its thousands of posts you'll have a good idea of what the other 60% is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synxos Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 lol I bet they counted anyone who was leaving for Guild War 2 as leaving because of the sub fee. No, people are leaving because the game sucks, and GW2 looks awesome. People aren't going to GW2 just because there's no monthly fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andryah Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I agree. People filling out the exit survey probably meant "the game sucks and is not worth $15/month" and didn't mean "the game is fantastic but I'm leaving due to the current subscription model." Isn't it grand how they would twist the metrics to support their f2p decision? Their exit surveys were designed to specifically feret out the f2p proponents, so I actually think they data mined fairly accurately. One thing the do well is survey data mining. Always have, even though people get bent if they feel they don't necessarily act on the data. And it's not like they did not have a large enough sample size of quitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glower Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 wait is that real ? ppl playing a mmo with a sub didnt want to pay a sub and i thought WoW had limited IQ players Relax, its just PR translation... player 1: "i sick of this customer service, i dont want to pay for this" player 2: "where new warzones? Where Illum? i refuse to pay, cuz you lazy lalalala" bioware PR: "For players who cancelled their subscriptions, feedback provided as they cancelled indicated that 40% were turned off by the monthly subscription fee." :p:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirRobin Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) What about the 60%? Yeah, I chuckled when I read that bit too. I don't recall responding when I cancelled last time, so how many actually did? Not to mention that "many" is pretty meaningless. So they are backing this up by addressing the issue less than half of those, who responded, mentioned as a problem and for an unknown percentage of that less than half who might come back? Really? Wow... Edited August 1, 2012 by SirRobin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkerus Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 EA has stated - "For players who cancelled their subscriptions, feedback provided as they cancelled indicated that 40% were turned off by the monthly subscription fee." What about the other 60%??? I for one enjoy the game and hope to play a long time. I probly will keep a Subscription, as long as I get full access to everything and don't have to pay extra for stuff. EXAMPLE: pay $5.00 and purchase this special lightsaber. That kind of stuff led me away from City of Heroes and World of Tanks. I'm not sure if this is a joke or not. The other 60% is spread out within the rest of the categories. It wasn't 60% was all one other answer. How do you not understand that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltydogg Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 EA has stated - "For players who cancelled their subscriptions, feedback provided as they cancelled indicated that 40% were turned off by the monthly subscription fee." What about the other 60%??? I for one enjoy the game and hope to play a long time. I probly will keep a Subscription, as long as I get full access to everything and don't have to pay extra for stuff. EXAMPLE: pay $5.00 and purchase this special lightsaber. That kind of stuff led me away from City of Heroes and World of Tanks. That right there is a blatant lie by EA. That is their way of pushing the blame on the consumer rather than their failure as a gaming company. That statement right there just really pisses me off. They lost 60% of their population because the game was a 2004 version of WoW. Almost everything they took except from maybe Huttball was straight from WoW. Not only that they gave us a horrible resolve system, almost every class had 2 or more forms of cc, 1.2 ended the game for a number of people because of the horrible class balance. Ba the list goes on and on. EA 40% of the population didnt complain about sub fee's, that 40% complained that sub fees were not worth it for the overall content of this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Nala Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 EA has stated - "For players who cancelled their subscriptions, feedback provided as they cancelled indicated that 40% were turned off by the monthly subscription fee." What about the other 60%??? I for one enjoy the game and hope to play a long time. I probly will keep a Subscription, as long as I get full access to everything and don't have to pay extra for stuff. EXAMPLE: pay $5.00 and purchase this special lightsaber. That kind of stuff led me away from City of Heroes and World of Tanks. Prepare to be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master-Nala Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 That right there is a blatant lie by EA. That is their way of pushing the blame on the consumer rather than their failure as a gaming company. That statement right there just really pisses me off. They lost 60% of their population because the game was a 2004 version of WoW. Almost everything they took except from maybe Huttball was straight from WoW. Not only that they gave us a horrible resolve system, almost every class had 2 or more forms of cc, 1.2 ended the game for a number of people because of the horrible class balance. Ba the list goes on and on. EA 40% of the population didnt complain about sub fee's, that 40% complained that sub fees were not worth it for the overall content of this game. And yet you pay this 'evil' company to access the game that you apparently hate so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HammersteinSW Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 wait is that real ? ppl playing a mmo with a sub didnt want to pay a sub and i thought WoW had limited IQ players It's the stupid questionaire when you cancel your sub, there is probably some question about suibscription fees and silly people say it bothers them - but what they mean is "this game is not worth $15/month). But EA tries to spin this for the shareholder and community and wants to sell it as 40% of those who quit would come back if it was f2p. Too bad that f2p means that you will have a very limited experience, with less of everything. So if those 40% didn't want to pay for a full game experience, I highly doubt that they will waste their time on a free and very limited game experience, much less waste cash in EA's stupid item shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKMaster Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I'd say 40% of the initial players were non-mmo gamers looking for a new KOTOR game, they played through the story they wanted and quit afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bethmora Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Anyone who plays mmos knows there is a fee per month. I dont see ppl leaving because of the 15.00 a month. People still played SWG after they gutted it and still paid for it. they didnt leave becuase of the cost it was because they changed it. please are leaving this game because of a lot of reasons i dont see them wanted to admit so just say they leave because of the cost. Hhmm, hey EA lower they monthly price.. that would be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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