Hyryu Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 If you check the edit I added that I swapped out my expertise crystal for power crystal as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pestulan Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) The Strength coefficient is .2, not .21. Either way, the bonus damage increase is still insignificant. Beside that, if you get Perseverance, the difference is even smaller. We have more than enough power from mods. Substituting main stat, which isn't subject to diminishing returns for bonus damage (Power isn't either), for a secondary stat is silly. It's best to go strength for augments. Str is buffed 5% by the Sorc/Sage buff. Working from your base, unbuffed value (such as the 126 from Augments we were discussing), this is equal to a .21 coefficient. If you're taking your buffed Str (which would be 132 for 7 Might augments) , then you have to use .2 instead. If you check the edit I added that I swapped out my expertise crystal for power crystal as well 41 Expertise to 41 Power is still not going to make up the extra 490-990 damage missing from your inflated average (and it's quite likely that swapping Expertise for Power is a downgrade anyway, depending on what your total Expertise is). 41 Power would be 41 x .23 x 1.35 = 12.7 more damage on Smash (minus whatever the loss from Expertise is). Edited July 16, 2012 by Pestulan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyryu Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) With expertise around 1300, swapping for power isn't a loss? Also need to take in to account that the sweeps are critted Edited July 17, 2012 by Hyryu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_Past Posted July 17, 2012 Share Posted July 17, 2012 With expertise around 1300, swapping for power isn't a loss? Also need to take in to account that the sweeps are critted A 1:1 tradeoff is always a downgrade if you trade expertise for power. Yes, expertise has some diminishing returns, but it isn't bad enough to warrant a 1:1 trade. Also, power isn't affected but crit at all. That's surge. Power is just straight damage boost across the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashbrother Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 (edited) If you have the 6% str talent and the 5% from consular buff (which any serious pvper should), str > power. Edited July 18, 2012 by Smashbrother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyryu Posted July 18, 2012 Share Posted July 18, 2012 A 1:1 tradeoff is always a downgrade if you trade expertise for power. Yes, expertise has some diminishing returns, but it isn't bad enough to warrant a 1:1 trade. Also, power isn't affected but crit at all. That's surge. Power is just straight damage boost across the board. It is only a 1:1 trade-off if you are not yet hitting diminished returns on Expertise. If you are, then it isn't a 1:1. I think to answer the OPs question...try it out for yourself and see what gives you the best results. The one issue that I do have with Power over Str is that Crit chance is effected by Strength and even though I'm specced in Focus where my main hit crits anyway there are still a list of abilities that I use that really could benefit from Crit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyderQuanTy Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 does anyone know how much str augments increase accuracy can i drop the accuracy mods/enhancements for power / surge and recoup the accuracy from str augments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funick Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 does anyone know how much str augments increase accuracy can i drop the accuracy mods/enhancements for power / surge and recoup the accuracy from str augments? str does not effect acc in this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyryu Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 After surge is around 250, start looking for Str/Accuracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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