Kalfear Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 (edited) Quote: Originally Posted by JoeeyyMagzz People run around in circles in PvP and have no clue how to play their class, yet they are wearing full BM gear and probably a piece or two of Warhero gear... If you run around in circles in PvE, you'll still be wearing those 50 oranges with level 40 mods in them until they raise the level cap and you get some more leveling gear. People run around in circles because it works for PvP. If it didn't work, you wouldn't see it. It takes more dexterity to do it as well. Very true and its not cheating, though it is annoying and a sure sign of a bad player in my opinion I cant wait for the day collussion is possible in these games so the little idiots that run through you and leap around suddnely start bouncing off things and stay targetted. Last night in huttaball had a annoying Shadow constantly trying to stand on me to avoid being targetted! Luckly I play a bounty Hunter for my imp and can PB ground target my AOE blaster attack, high heat but also high damage! But jesus it was annoying Since collussion not really possible yet Id LOVE for EA and other games to put in common sense coding for PVP -If you are moving when you attack you suffer a damage reduction from attack and suffer a damage increase to damage you take -if you attack from leaping/jumping action you have a 50% chance to flat out miss your target and also you receive double damage from all attacks on you while leaping/jumping - if you run through a stationary opponent, you can not do any attacks for 3 secs. Put those common sense rules in and the jump around morons would stop trying to exploit LOS pretty quickly Edited July 5, 2012 by Kalfear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunni Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I'm kind of skeptical of BW resolve to stop this problem. On my RP-PVP server that players are being transferred off of, the pubs on that server were blatantly hacking nearly every pvp match I was in and others in my guild. I don’t know how many times we reported hackers and nothing was ever done to stop the abuse. I wonder sometimes if some of hackers are associated with BW. That would explain why some servers have hackers that are banned and others are left alone. There is evidence of BW reps abusing their powers. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=4472438#post4472438 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansalem Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 If you go online and find the cheater forums dealing with this game you can see the cheaters aka hackers laughing about how when they were banned when BW did its big cleaning house of hacks a little while ago that they were only banned for 1 week. A lot of them even posted about how they simply turned their speed hacks down a little and continue to use them. BW basically gave them a slap on the wrist and is turning a blind eye as they continue to cheat. I got my full war hero and now I never use it because I got tired of seeing the cheaters getting away with it and I refuse to cheat to make it even. Pvp in this game is just dumb atm because of the cheats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectus Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Something else you'll want to do to help you track potential cheaters is to go into your Chat tabs' "Other" tab and activate the "Combat Information" option. This will record killing blows, both when you kill something and when something (or someone) kills your character. I had an odd experience yesterday while levelling my lowbie Sage on Hoth. I was standing in the middle of the vendor room in Aurek Base, when out of nowhere, KA-BOOM!, something or someone killed me with one explosive shot. And I never saw another player, either before or after. I went to my "Other" tab to see what happened, and found that I'd forgotten to activate this element, so I have no idea who or what did it. And now, with all this talk of hackers modifying their games on their client side, it makes me wonder if someone had modified their Client to enable them to travel underground. It could have been an Operative in stealth, but in the middle of Aurek Base? Unlikely that he could slip past the NPCs guarding the entrance. The lesson: this is a very useful tool for identifying enemy players who kill you. Make sure it's checked on ALL your toons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansalem Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Something else you'll want to do to help you track potential cheaters is to go into your Chat tabs' "Other" tab and activate the "Combat Information" option. This will record killing blows, both when you kill something and when something (or someone) kills your character. I had an odd experience yesterday while levelling my lowbie Sage on Hoth. I was standing in the middle of the vendor room in Aurek Base, when out of nowhere, KA-BOOM!, something or someone killed me with one explosive shot. And I never saw another player, either before or after. I went to my "Other" tab to see what happened, and found that I'd forgotten to activate this element, so I have no idea who or what did it. And now, with all this talk of hackers modifying their games on their client side, it makes me wonder if someone had modified their Client to enable them to travel underground. It could have been an Operative in stealth, but in the middle of Aurek Base? Unlikely that he could slip past the NPCs guarding the entrance. The lesson: this is a very useful tool for identifying enemy players who kill you. Make sure it's checked on ALL your toons. that was me on my agent...I vanished so npcs couldnt get me. I hunt christians down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectus Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 If you go online and find the cheater forums dealing with this game you can see the cheaters aka hackers laughing about how when they were banned when BW did its big cleaning house of hacks a little while ago that they were only banned for 1 week. A lot of them even posted about how they simply turned their speed hacks down a little and continue to use them. BW basically gave them a slap on the wrist and is turning a blind eye as they continue to cheat. I got my full war hero and now I never use it because I got tired of seeing the cheaters getting away with it and I refuse to cheat to make it even. Pvp in this game is just dumb atm because of the cheats. Again, I'd send this info to BioWare. Provide them with a link to the pages where you see these sorts of discussions, and send it in. They may not be able to connect the dots to specific cheaters' accounts, but it gives them documented background information, and info on what to look for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansalem Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Again, I'd send this info to BioWare. Provide them with a link to the pages where you see these sorts of discussions, and send it in. They may not be able to connect the dots to specific cheaters' accounts, but it gives them documented background information, and info on what to look for. I'm getting tired of doing bioware's work for them. Honestly all they need to do is use google if they don't have one person capable of doing that to track down cheaters then I have lost all faith in this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidacid Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I'm getting tired of doing bioware's work for them. Honestly all they need to do is use google if they don't have one person capable of doing that to track down cheaters then I have lost all faith in this game. then you have lost faith in every single game... because none of them ever do **** till someone reports a specific person hacking... after all a site selling hacks is breaking no laws... at this point you should just stop playing games all together or learn to deal with reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SentinelDranoel Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I think I ran into the same person, was their toon a fat body type? Nope, was a blue female chiss in the coreila run server. I am not sure if I should be posting names so I will not do it. I did not get a good look at her until after I reported the toon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthtoearl Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 then you have lost faith in every single game... because none of them ever do **** till someone reports a specific person hacking... after all a site selling hacks is breaking no laws... at this point you should just stop playing games all together or learn to deal with reality Yep, seen cheating in lots of games, but your tone makes you sound like a hacker yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goretzu Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) Just one little thing: I believe this is an exaggeration. You know, when you get beaten by that school bully, you always tell your dad that there were actually 3 Anderson Silvas beating you and you had your hands tied Just fight back, so long as they aren't prepared to die, you'll win. Edited September 15, 2012 by Goretzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paganhunter Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I don't think it's as bad as you're making it out to be. I've been pvping for hours everyday and have not come across any of what you mentioned. If it was that bad, im sure I would have by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bahdasz Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 (edited) interesting how it seems that the hackers are exclusively concerned with pvp Well, wagging your peepee in PvE just isn't as much fun as it is in PVP is it? How many times have you seen anyone bragging that they're the most awesomest uber-l33t PVEer in ANY game? Edited September 15, 2012 by bahdasz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turjake Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Well, wagging your peepee in PvE just isn't as much fun as it is in PVP is it? How many times have you seen anyone bragging that they're the most awesomest uber-l33t PVEer in ANY game? I thought that is the whole point of for example WoW hc raiding and world firsts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintAvalon Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 If you want PvP go into either a Shooter or go to Guild Wars 2. Both have a better system, and are more "equal" for everyone. This game is pve, and casual oriented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalabakk Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 All of the casual gamers and pve'ers are avoiding pvp b/c of people like you. Or perhaps they are "avoiding" it because they just don't like PvP at all. I know others enjoy it and I'm fine with that, but I don't personally see the point of it. As far as stopping hackers, if that was the OP's actual subject (kind of hard to tell what it was about, frankly), then I would agree that needs to be addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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