Valkirus Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 And at 6:55, ten servers in North America are listed as "Standard," three "Heavy." In Europe, ten servers are "Standard." What's your point? That it is very low. Duh. Even if 3 now are listed as Heavy..that is still low..think abou it....3 servers are Heavy? 3!!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubernetic Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 BTW, how many episodes did Firefly last in your world? If it was more than 14, do you think you could stream some over to this world while the connection between our realities is open? If you have no idea what a 'Firefly' is, then, damn, I'm sorry -- you live in some kind of hell dimension. That must suck. Firefly was awesome. Hopefully, this will cross-post across the vibratory barrier and you'll be able to see it. I could care less about the rest of this thread. But I would like to put my full support behind the notion of adding cross-dimensionl "Firefly" streaming. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleurtygirl Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 That it is very low. Duh. Even if 3 now are listed as Heavy..that is still low..think abou it....3 servers are Heavy? 3!!? Low by what standards? Do you have official numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkirus Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 His point is that if SWTOR isn't the next cultural phenomenon that, despite being over 6 years old, still has a boatload of servers sitting at high and full it must be a fail game. Obviously this logic is flawed and erroneous. No...I am not indicating it is a failure. I am saying it is not in as good of a shape as some are suggesting. I wish it was, but it is clear it is not when viewed with no rose colored glasses on. And I know..it is not TOR alone which has reflected the majority of EA's stock lost, but it is part of the reason...as anything happening to it does reflect back on those stocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kharnis Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 That it is very low. Duh. Even if 3 now are listed as Heavy..that is still low..think abou it....3 servers are Heavy? 3!!? So, you can officially proclaim that this is too low, despite the fact that in a mere ten minutes, the population status changed rather dramatically? Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkirus Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Low by what standards? Do you have official numbers? Well...I could take WoW's server status and show you they have 36 listed as high and over a hundred listed as Med in NA alone...but that would'nt be fair would it? But the point is mute for some of you and we will have to see what the sub numbers are next month and more importantly, what they are this fall..after all the 6 month subs run out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleurtygirl Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 No...I am not indicating it is a failure. I am saying it is not in as good of a shape as some are suggesting. I wish it was, but it is clear it is not when viewed with no rose colored glasses on. And I know..it is not TOR alone which has reflected the majority of EA's stock lost, but it is part of the reason...as anything happening to it does reflect back on those stocks. Banking anything, especially money, on the Sims is like throwing the dice down the toilet and then clogging the pipes with your gambling chips. lol Ok, but, yes, you are right. Like I said in my other post, they don't seem to have netted anywhere near the number of subs they wanted, but this is generally the rule, not the exception. I don't think the game is dying. I think it has probably stabilized at this point and will continue to see the normal dips and rises in players depending on what is going on in the game at any given time. I.e. New patches, content getting old, etc etc. There seems to be lots of doomsaying around here. I know that's the standard for forums, but I feel compelled to comment anyways. I guess I'm still fresh off the Diablo 3 forums where you would think the sky was literally falling if you spent 5 minutes there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleurtygirl Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) Well...I could take WoW's server status and show you they have 36 listed as high and over a hundred listed as Med in NA alone...but that would'nt be fair would it? But the point is mute for some of you and we will have to see what the sub numbers are next month and more importantly, what they are this fall..after all the 6 month subs run out. Comparing the servers to WoW would only be mute to me because WoW has, much to my chagrin, set the expectations for MMO too high and also stagnated the design philosophies of MMO developers. Its success has been far more of a curse than a blessing. I despise the way we haven't moved past a game that was released in 2004. TOR fell prey to this curse and mindset in many, many ways, but so did the playerbase. Edit: Also, before anyone gets upset and accuses me of hating Azeroth, my Dalaran t-shirt, alliance t-shirt, druid t-shirt, Blizzcon Deathwing statue, Night Elf action figure, and many Warcraft books would like to have a word with you. Edited June 22, 2012 by Fleurtygirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kharnis Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Well...I could take WoW's server status and show you they have 36 listed as high and over a hundred listed as Med in NA alone...but that would'nt be fair would it? But the point is mute for some of you and we will have to see what the sub numbers are next month and more importantly, what they are this fall..after all the 6 month subs run out. Apparently, you are not quite grasping what is being said to you or asked of you. Proclaiming that "three Heavy servers is too low a number" is about as meaningful as saying, "Apples are being eaten right now by people on Standard servers." What are the numbers for reaching the Standard threshold, and what are they for reaching Heavy? How many people are on those High and Medium servers in WoW? If you do not know the number (and you don't, so don't try to say otherwise), then any argument based on "Look at how many are Standard" is useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkirus Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 So, you can officially proclaim that this is too low, despite the fact that in a mere ten minutes, the population status changed rather dramatically? Interesting. Only 2 are listed as heavy now..10 as standard. I would not call that "dramatically" changing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarjarloves Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) Well...I could take WoW's server status and show you they have 36 listed as high and over a hundred listed as Med in NA alone...but that would'nt be fair would it? But the point is mute for some of you and we will have to see what the sub numbers are next month and more importantly, what they are this fall..after all the 6 month subs run out. only if you could provide us with WoW server population numbers per server. Look at their forums WoW players are SCREAMING for server mergers not to mention WoW onlly has around 1.5 - 2 million sub in NA right now Edited June 22, 2012 by jarjarloves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kharnis Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Only 2 are listed as heavy now..10 as standard. I would not call that "dramatically" changing.. Then I refer you to my post above. What are the threshold numbers for reaching Standard and Heavy status? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkirus Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Apparently, you are not quite grasping what is being said to you or asked of you. Proclaiming that "three Heavy servers is too low a number" is about as meaningful as saying, "Apples are being eaten right now by people on Standard servers." What are the numbers for reaching the Standard threshold, and what are they for reaching Heavy? How many people are on those High and Medium servers in WoW? If you do not know the number (and you don't, so don't try to say otherwise), then any argument based on "Look at how many are Standard" is useless. I guess in your eyes it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lundli Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Right now ( 6:45 pm EST )...I just checked the server status.. Might want to check the euro servers at a time when ppl are not asleep or out getting drunk. Not saying you'll get fantastic results but at least you'll get a couple of full ones and some very heavy to heavy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nadokaoh Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) Well...I could take WoW's server status and show you they have 36 listed as high and over a hundred listed as Med in NA alone...but that would'nt be fair would it? But the point is mute for some of you and we will have to see what the sub numbers are next month and more importantly, what they are this fall..after all the 6 month subs run out. so if wow had 1 million subs and not 10mill it would be 3 high 10 med sound about the same as swotor just a note the word is moot not mute Edited June 22, 2012 by nadokaoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kharnis Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 I guess in your eyes it is. So no answer, I take it? I don't blame you, since you can't give one. Anyone who says "TOR is doing just fine, nothing to see here" is clearly sticking their fingers in their ears and shouting "Lalalalala" as loud as they can. But anyone who says, "Look at the server population status, clearly the game is tanking" are doing the exact same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkirus Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Might want to check the euro servers at a time when ppl are not asleep or out getting drunk. Not saying you'll get fantastic results but at least you'll get a couple of full ones and some very heavy to heavy.. Lol! I was surprised they had that many this time of day here along the east coast of the US. So you make a good point. I have looked at them during thier prime time before and yeah, you are right..they do have 3- 4 listed as heavy to very heavy with maybe one or two full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valkirus Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 so if wow had 1 million subs and not 10mill it would be 3 high 10 med sound about the same as swotor just a note the word is moot not mute But they donot have 10 million in NA. Maybe 4 - 5 million. So using your logic..they would have three times the amount of servers listed as high as TOR does. 5 divided into 36 = 7.2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agarwaenn Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Didn't read the whole thread but did anyone mention that the stock started it's nosedive around the time EA launched the Origin Store, and took a lot of their games off Steam? That had a huge effect on their PC sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarjarloves Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Didn't read the whole thread but did anyone mention that the stock started it's nosedive around the time EA launched the Origin Store, and took a lot of their games off Steam? That had a huge effect on their PC sales. that would be using logic and facts. Neither of those have any place here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalgearyoda Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 Clearly this is due to swtor because EA doesn't have any other franchises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezzi Posted June 22, 2012 Share Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) that would be using logic and facts. Neither of those have any place here. Especially when you refuse to use facts. Right, jarjarloves? Edited June 22, 2012 by Dezzi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keta Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Clearly this is due to swtor because EA doesn't have any other franchises. Thanks for the laugh! EA's stock has been a horrid investment for some time. What does that mean for SWTOR? Dunno but you've already seen EA at action with Bioware and all the cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeblesTV Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 EA is just a horrid company in general. They where before SWTOR, they are now. They abuse their customers and their employees, of course their stock is falling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyx Posted June 23, 2012 Share Posted June 23, 2012 Clearly this is due to swtor because EA doesn't have any other franchises. LOL! One could even go further and say: "Clearly this is due to SWTOR because EA doesn't have any bigger gaming franchises." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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