cipher_nemo Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Posts are changing positions on each page. It looks like mods going through and deleting the offensive/trolling ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshiblade Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 That was a silly thing to do. Okay, everyone. Remember how we got here? The game was released and many servers had queues. Sure, most of the queues were pretty short, but you had to wait to play the game that you paid for and people whined endlessly, insulting Bioware, Obama, and electricity and threatening to publicly accuse Bioware of crimes if they didn't have their selfish, short-sighted demands met. And Bioware did it. Now, transfers are starting, and they start out slow --as anyone who has any shred of experience in large-scale services knows is a smart move-- and what happens: People whine endlessly, insulting Bioware and demanding that Bioware implement reckless, uncontrolled, and unmanageable transfers. You know what would be really stupid: If Bioware listened to any of you. You are the problem. You are the ones who put us in this situation. You should be apologizing and supporting them as they fix the issue you created. Exactly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondesolid Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) Heck with it, I've paid 45 bucks just to hear about transfers, might as well add 15 more to get it Edited June 12, 2012 by Blondesolid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkerus Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) Just more proof that no effort was made, during development, to produce a good test bed for database tools and administration. For a program that is expected to be huge, that is a major fail. More evidence that EA hired total noobs. Do you work in the industry? Do you have any idea how the server transfer work at a technical level? Have you even CONSIDERED the fact that they are starting slow on purpose? They need to make sure a smooth process for everyone that isn't bringing down the physical servers that are doing the data crunching. Do you know how easy it is to bring down a server with a stuck process of bad batch job? You people make me sick. I am ashamed to say I play the same game as some of you. I want all of you who can't stick out a day or two wait to just quit. Quit right now. Get off the forums and leave the rest of us to talk about the game in a constructive manner. Edited June 12, 2012 by Arkerus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansalem Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I also wanted to point out that this process was outlined in our community blog last week and in our main transfer thread here. Specifically: This process will be gradual and staged over time. Despite huge improvements being made to the Character Transfer Service by our server team, there are millions of characters to be moved and there is a limit to how many can be moved daily. We want your character to be transferred as quickly as possible, but we will need you to be patient as the process completes. Millions of characters? really? you don't want to rethink that guess? If there were millions of characters to be moved we wouldn't need to be moving now would we? As for the very very very small amount of servers open for transfer for the first few days from the sounds of it well this sums it up...its as if millions (if you go buy joveth's estimate) of voices all screamed out and were suddenly silenced.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senatsu Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Are you guys still happy they didn't merge servers? Lmao, think how long it will take before BioWare opens up all the servers for transfers. Gonna take years. Most pathetic country on Earth, right after EA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmufc Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) Posts are changing positions on each page. It looks like mods going through and deleting the offensive/trolling ones. And dont forgot the posts that are negative towards the game, BW always delete negative posts in every thread Edited June 12, 2012 by kmufc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMTT Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 So many people are saying that others have no patience. When you pay for a service, patience isn't what you're paying for. You're paying for action. If this was a free to play game then by all means, keep your griped to yourself. But since we are paying to play and a lot of us can't get a decent experience because of low server populations there will be an out cry. Server transfers might be premature. They should've started with mergers and then once the populations balanced out, offer transfers. But at any cost vague information like "soon", "eventually" and "gradually" are very helpful. At the very least they could've given a list of the future server transfer lists with estimated dates would, I believe, quiet some of the out cry. Just my thoughts. ^This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alcek Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 WoW didn't even have server transfers for what, 3 years? And you want BW to have it in place at launch for a game that had every server full to the brim? Come on, man. Is it 2005 or 2006? Oh, it is 2012. The same response will be " during 1960 they didnt even have computers, be happy that you posess one now". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LicaniX Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 /empathy - I know how you feel 16:27 (4:47PM) in here on UTHAR WYNN and 9 people only on all planet without filter! My screenshot it's without filter....15 people in server. All day it's like today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
battlebabies Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Yea they are kicking themselves in the face (probably most of the people that have alot of money invested)....and this is their last chance to fix the game. Some people say there should have been tranfers 4 months ago....The game was still in diapers...If your server died 4 months ago why didn't you go somewhere else...?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggomy Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 WoW didn't even have server transfers for what, 3 years? And you want BW to have it in place at launch for a game that had every server full to the brim? Come on, man. WoW didnt need them because they made an awesome game people liked with enough servers only to handle the masses and not 100s when they only needed 50. WoW's developers keep winning all the other mmos in the world combined do not equal the numbers WoW has. The mismanagement of this game (too many servers too soon) caused this fiasco. Blizzard did not (and still doesnt) have that problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkingDinosaur Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 I think ppl aound here are not blind and can read. You thought wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk-Firestorm Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Thats what a guild website is for.. so you can actually post important info like this.. and chat when not playing a game.. Having to rely on outside game mechanics to perform a simple feature is just bad design, bad database management, and just bad management period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pctcwill Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Why didn't you reroll like...5 months ago or something.....?? Cho Mai wasn't dead 5 months ago... At the release of 1.2 it was pretty populated and then poof... D3 comes out and everybody is gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhysling Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 LOL What a joke, No server transfers for dead servers. Really you put Fatman on the list? We had 10 people on fleet last night. It was a record high. I guess that makes us an active server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gornn Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 The only way the transfer to Fatman/Jedi Covenant makes sense is if the origin servers are super dead. And will result in 6 total transfers. "Well we'll top up these, and then build on others." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparklehorse Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Unless you missed it, the Bioware staff basically works ALL day Tuesday. Early morning till night. Large IT projects like this have staff on hand every single hour of the day. If you don't work in the field, don't comment on what you believe are their hours. I'd stop just short of calling this a large project...10 servers isn't that impressive to me. Since you have Bioware's employee schedule on hand I'll just submit to your wisdom...oh wait... Seriously do not understand people who take pot shots in threads and have no idea what they are responding to. People who pick fights over off topic posts in thread are almost as dumb as people that assume they know what a person does for a living...but not quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiteis Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Yeah I do miss my 2- 50's on Iron Citadel, But I got smart and rerolled about a month ago, already have 2-30's on fatman. Granted it is a pain knowing i will have 2 servers, 2 legacies and multiple guilds to account for once I am able to transfer, but it gets to a point when you realize. Why complain when you can just reroll. Saying bye to all you worked for is hard, i know. Just reroll on fatman until your transfer is on the list. Simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cipher_nemo Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) Do you work in the industry? Do you have any idea how the server transfer work at a technical level? Have you even CONSIDERED the fact that they are starting slow on purpose? They need to make sure a smooth process for everyone that isn't bringing down the physical servers that are doing the data crunching. Do you know how easy it is to bring down a server with a stuck process of bad batch job? You people make me sick. I am ashamed to say I play the same game as some of you. I want all of you who can't stick out a day or two wait to just quit. Quit right now. Get off the forums and leave the rest of us to talk about the game in a constructive manner. 1.) Stop insulting others. 2.) I'm not the person you were responding to. 3.) You are not being "constructive" in that post, despite you asking everyone else to do the same. 4.) Many of us already canceled our auto-renewal for subscriptions but have time left (I have until August 17th). 5.) He doesn't need to be an 'expert' in order to see that one company made Transfers work just fine (eg: Trion with Rift), and another is struggling just to do phased, one-way transfers that don't "move" guilds (eg: Bioware with TOR). Time to take a wider view instead of the insults. Edited June 12, 2012 by cipher_nemo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lajota Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 And, now we can take a wild guess which servers the Dev's play on. Touché. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senatsu Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 WoW didn't even have server transfers for what, 3 years? And you want BW to have it in place at launch for a game that had every server full to the brim? Come on, man. Rift launched over a year ago, and they launched with server transfers. Since BW launched SWTOR just over 6 months ago, then hell yes I expect them to launch with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakhesis Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 (edited) WoW didnt need them because they made an awesome game people liked with enough servers only to handle the masses and not 100s when they only needed 50. WoW's developers keep winning all the other mmos in the world combined do not equal the numbers WoW has. The mismanagement of this game (too many servers too soon) caused this fiasco. Blizzard did not (and still doesnt) have that problem. http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/2986509135 I don't think everyone agrees with you. And that's just the compilation thread.. there are dozens of other locked threads linking to it... Edited June 12, 2012 by Lakhesis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smilefunk Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 It doesn't matter how correct BioWare handles it, people will still complain. That is the only certainty in regards to character transfers. of course i meant when viewed retrospectively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalkingDinosaur Posted June 12, 2012 Share Posted June 12, 2012 Having to rely on outside game mechanics to perform a simple feature is just bad design, bad database management, and just bad management period. Simple? ROFL. Please post the process of a character transfer and no it's not /transfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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