P-Funk Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 To top it off: We haven't just been queuing around prime time, queues have started as early as 8.10am. Utter madness. Think about it this way. When the servers are full and the 6 o clock crowd shows up they'll end up in the empty servers. Then all the servers will be full, and the pop will be spread out, and while now it will all seem so congested, in a few weeks when everyone isn't going online all the time like on LAUNCH DAY you will find that server pops will probably be just fine with few queues. This is just the rush to get into Day 1. It will by definition be overcrowded. If everyone shares the server in rotation and everyone is online today all at once, then it will be impossible. These reactions are all very much premature. Its like if a new restaurant has food sent back on the first day and the owner wants to fire the Chef. Its not gonna be super easy. People expect a lot without much notice to the fact that no MMO with this many people playing it at launch has ever achieved with exactitude what they expect. Its just that 3 hour queues are too long, then if they werent 3 hours it'd be 2 hours, and if it weren't 2 hours it'd be that its 45 minutes. Maybe you guys should accept that it might not be worth the hassle to play on Day 1? I mean, to the entitled modern gaming consumer such a statement is obscene really, but MMOs have always been kind of a troubled creature. By its nature it cannot be as smooth as single player experience where even needing a patch on day 1 is considered bad (but is still pretty much 100% gonna happen). So get some perspective on what an MMO launch is really like. Be thankful they don't have insane lag and crashes that are so frequent you can't decide if its a worse problem than the queues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkarn Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 What about free transfers?? Expanding servers? The founding servers are way too full, with other servers barely even touched! and no one from the 5-7 days of early access wants to reroll yet again and start COMPLETELY over on a new server. agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bollah Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) This isn't downtime. The server they assigned our guild to is up and running. The problem is they assigned way too many people to one server and didn't account for human nature/random people also joining the servers Bioware already assigned multiple full guilds to. Despite what it is you see from your highhorse, your didactitc outlook has no bearing on the fact that they would actually like to keep customers, and when this many customers aren't enjoying your service, it's likely you won't see more money from them. Whether there's a clause in the EULA or not regarding server down times. Poor service is poor service. Obviously a lot of people enjoy the game, but are having a hard time justifying continuing to pay, especially considering the feeble attempts to amend the situation that began a week ago - one which they had years to plan against. I'm sure you're under the illusion they'd prefer one strong forum warrior such as yourself to paying customers, but luckily the majority of us have the luxury of knowing you're wrong. The majority of people understand what happens during the launch of an MMO. This is the norm, and there is nothing that can be done to fix it. I am sure they care that 300 randoms are crying over queue times, most people don' t like it but they understand it is the norm in a game as popular as this. You are not the majority, but a tiny minority. If they really want to "keep" customers they should worry about the long term health of servers instead of short term health of servers. They shouldn't pull another Rift and then merge servers later on. People will put the "I quit" card over everything, those are people that usually spout empty threats and should be ignored. WoW is a great example of this, people play the "I quit" card but keep playing the game. These are empty threats. If a person really quits over this, the game would be better off without them. Edited December 20, 2011 by Bollah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodyinf Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 This is so not normal all the time when i try to enter the game i should wait 2 hours to log on Bloodworthy. And because that was not enough when i got the first in queue it disconnected me instantly and now i should wait again 2 hours.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeh Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Every time I read a page at least 3 more pop up. It's like the Never Ending Bitter Story of Empty Threats and Hatred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bragar Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 This will be all over the press soon and at that point prospective buyers start to think 'hmmm do I really want that?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skodnar Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) I do believe Rift launched with free Character xfer, seems this is another option where bioware have gone backwards in time like with many options ingame. Sadly I dont think we will see this anytime soon. PS. Rift's free character transfer have 7 days cd. Edited December 20, 2011 by skodnar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelemahc Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) 13 tropper maby you shouldnt have made a char on a allrdy full sever ? maby you didnt do the math right!! Learn to read (and write, while you're at it). When I picked it, it was the only STANDARD-load server in a very, very, very short list of available servers. Didn't have a choice. What make things worse is, that BioWare was notified about this problem already in beta run - FAR to few English servers. I stand here rather confused - how can a game, 4 years underway, several heavy beta-test load + Pre-Access load fail this much? Instead of focusing all BioWare's team on pre-access party, get to your whiteboards and draw a solution that will last. All the best to all of you. Thank you, yes, that was my point also. There were queues in the last Weekend Beta, towards the end. That should have tripped some warning lights, what with almost a month to go before Early Access started. Did it? I won't try to guess, not educated enough in the matter, but I really hope that it did. Edited December 20, 2011 by Noelemahc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theplayer Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Endure the suffering of waiting in queues you must...to prove yourselves as Jedi. Ease the pain by meditating with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dasffion Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 This will be all over the press soon and at that point prospective buyers start to think 'hmmm do I really want that?' It's already been on many gaming sites and in general the comments have been pretty understanding because the majority of people know this happens during a large launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlichael Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Just happened to me... lost connection (first time ever) and back in queue... 1000 to go... 1½ hour wait. This is after having 2 error 9000 and one error 3... Any chance that Bioware have an update on the server loads... I know you are opening servers, but people that are situated on a server, with guilds and what not... they are not likely to go... Specificaly I'm refering to The Red Eclipse (EU) Thank you for a great game, hoping for less error 9000 in the future Yeah, mine has begun to disconnect as well .. this did not happened doing pre-access, but happens every 30 mins now .. and damn it, i get in a queue afterwards. All the sudden i am starting to understand the way of the Sith ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorraider Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 It's already been on many gaming sites and in general the comments have been pretty understanding because the majority of people know this happens during a large launch. Exactly. But people don't listen to people like us who tell the truth or know from their gut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ginfest Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 This will be all over the press soon and at that point prospective buyers start to think 'hmmm do I really want that?' Exactly-there is no reason any new folks should have been allowed to queue on servers that were full in headstart -no damn reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bollah Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 It's already been on many gaming sites and in general the comments have been pretty understanding because the majority of people know this happens during a large launch. Or people will think, man this game is popular with that much queues. I should give it a shot. I know I wanted to try Rift when I heard about the obscene queue times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonebald Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 You realize games used to close at Beta, wipe the servers and go Live? Everyone started from scratch. No head start, no Galactic Market cornering, no credit stashing, no guild stackers or know-it-all smart asses loling at a noob's questions behind the safety of a CAT 6 cable. Yeah, ya paid $5 more to get the download... woah! Big deal. We put in at the MOST maybe 6 days in a game that you will most likely play for years and you are freaking out about everything from que times to errors to re-rolling or even quitting... on LAUNCH DAY of all days. Come to think of it, maybe a fresh start wipe is the best way to launch a game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eigon Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Heh, I've been the first one in my queue for 45minutes now :E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bragar Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 It's already been on many gaming sites and in general the comments have been pretty understanding because the majority of people know this happens during a large launch. This is NOT launch - that was on 13 Dec when early access started. There have been long queues since that day and BW has done NOTHING to address it as far as anyone playing can tell. There seems to be a fundamental problem with their load-balancing design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bollah Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 This is NOT launch - that was on 13 Dec when early access started. There have been long queues since that day and BW has done NOTHING to address it as far as anyone playing can tell. There seems to be a fundamental problem with their load-balancing design. Adding dozens of servers a day is not "done NOTHING". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fhaeron Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I am actually "unable" to play due all these queu's Waiting 2 hours and then getting disconected message, requeue after 2 hours error coode 9001 (or something smiliar) then again queing 2 hours then i got in, after playing 5 mins i got dc-ed and then i was send back in a queu of then about 45 mins (was getting later at night so i think less ppl trying to get in then) didn't did the 45 min queu due i whent to bed But this happens since day 1 i got from early acces. I hope they o something about these long queu's fast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlichael Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 It's already been on many gaming sites and in general the comments have been pretty understanding because the majority of people know this happens during a large launch. It is still unacceptable - you all refer to this as being normal - why have no game company learned from others mistakes? If anyone, I would have thought BioWare to be more responsible - to succeed where other have failed. Instead, history - apparently - repeats itself. I am longing for quality craftsmanship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monteanvil Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 What I found out about queue's, that just means everyone makes a macro to leave there character logged in 24/7 . I have already heard of many, many people doing that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelemahc Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) We put in at the MOST maybe 6 days in a game that you will most likely play for years and you are freaking out about everything from que times to errors to re-rolling or even quitting... on LAUNCH DAY of all days. Come to think of it, maybe a fresh start wipe is the best way to launch a game... We are freaking out that we can't play comfortably, ackshully. Nothing much else. If my current queue doesn't magically evaporate, I'm rolling an alt on one of the LIGHT-load servers and hoping that the situation with the Early-Access-started ones gets resolved within the week that I can still follow the plot in =) Adding dozens of servers a day is not "done NOTHING". I reiterate - this prevents newcomers from ever facing this problem. It does NOTHING to alleviate it for anyone who was restricted in server choice either due to guild assignment or early-wave Early Access. Edited December 20, 2011 by Noelemahc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbaumo Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I certainly would appreciate something being done about the queues. As a working dad, I have a couple hours at most per day I can play. In the last three days I have not once managed to get into my server to actually play. But then, judging from the threads, this is a known issue..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solocup Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Exactly. But people don't listen to people like us who tell the truth or know from their gut. You tellin' da truth, Brotha! You tell da truth good! Amen, brotha! Can I get a Hallelujah?! Can I get a Hell Yea?! Can I get an AMEN for my brotha Warriorraider! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dduttonnc Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Well tbh, 10-15 mins is okay queue time. Even WoW @ launch didnt have 1500 queue ~ 2 hours queue time.. It really ruins the game for alot of people. What version of wow were you playing LOL! At times wow had 4-5 hr queues on some servers! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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