dprijadi Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 hey im confused with this one.. i created a JEDI KNIGHT Twilek female and plan to make her a LIGHT side jedi guardian. i was doing my class quest in the village SOUTH EAST of Jedi temple when the new matriach (the old matriach her mother already passed away) ask me to be her sister. the choice available to me are : 2 LIGHT (basically refuse the ritual) and 1 DARK (accept her as sister) then the screen goes black and when it reappear, my twilek and the matriach are sitting casually on the floor discusing stuff like sisters.. my questions = 1. What is this ritual ? is this some kind of blood ritual ? eg exchange blood symbolically ? or a ritual of exchanging gifts ? or forbidden ritual thats shunned by jedi ? 2. Why im considered 'DARK' when i accept her as sister ? The matriach just lost her mother, she is in pain inside and with the problem of fleshraiders attacking her settlement she need inner support.. why Jedi forbids such compassion to others ? 3. unrelated but im also curious : why jedi in the EPISODE 1 feels soo cold/impersonal and they allow anakin mother in slavery even when anakin was accepted in jedi order ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dprijadi Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 ** ADDENDUM I dont know if this ritual also available for non-twilek Jedi Knight females.. or Jedi Knight males.. but i think i see a video once of Male Jedi Knight flirting with the matriach and the screen also turned black (? censored ?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayla_Felana Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 1. it is only available to female Jedi knight players. 2.It is a Dark Side option because Jedi are not meant to create attachments to others, they are removed from their families for this exact reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) 1. it is only available to female Jedi knight players. 2.It is a Dark Side option because Jedi are not meant to create attachments to others, they are removed from their families for this exact reason. ^ This pretty much, I mean it could be ok right now. But in the long term, what if she dies or something and that female twi'lek went into rage mode and turned to the darkside(or it helps her) because she had such an attachment to her? Consequences.. Edited May 10, 2012 by Wolfninjajedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dprijadi Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 ^ This pretty much, I mean it could be ok right now. But in the long term, what if she dies or something and that female twi'lek went into rage mode and turned to the darkside(or it helps her) because she had such an attachment to her? Consequences.. but jedi are trained to resist such temptation , and rage mode are not just from the loss of loved ones.. but can also from insult or other thing.. in my view, based on the game light and dark choices, it seems that jedi are trained to be an unfeeling robots.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfninjajedi Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 but jedi are trained to resist such temptation , and rage mode are not just from the loss of loved ones.. but can also from insult or other thing.. in my view, based on the game light and dark choices, it seems that jedi are trained to be an unfeeling robots.. No no no, yes they are trained to resist but that doesn't make them immune to it. Look at Qui-Gon for example, he almost went completely darkside over the loss of his lover. With Anakin, the same thing he lost his mother killed Sand People out of rage and that helped him lead to the darkside. Jedi are not emotionless robots, you can't get rid of emotions thats just not possible at all, the jedi are trained to control said emotions but no matter how well trained they still can be tempted. The jedi can only train so much, afterwards its up to the individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maaruin Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 Lets face it: The Jedi Knight is supposed to be male and it is a Flirt->fade to black option. And for females they had to put it a dark side choice too, even if it doesn't make that much sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediElf Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) in my view, based on the game light and dark choices, it seems that jedi are trained to be an unfeeling robots.. I think this sets 'this' era of Jedi up as a unique shade of grey. Really, how can you save peoples lives, be a good person, and care for the sick and wounded if you are completely detached from your emotions and from any real form of affection or commitment. If you play a Sith, the first few Jedi you meet are exactly that, unfeeling and (seemingly) uncaring if they live or die. Full detachment can do strange things to the mind, and when their order makes love, affection and even simple 'needs' equal to the dark side, then you have problems that arise form the fact that Jedis, are not droids. Well that's my take on it anyways. Edited May 10, 2012 by JediElf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dprijadi Posted May 10, 2012 Author Share Posted May 10, 2012 true, playing as a light side sith, i feel more human than a light side jedi.. btw did anyone know what is the twilek sister ritual looks like? why bioware cut/fade to black/censor it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elliotcat Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 true, playing as a light side sith, i feel more human than a light side jedi.. btw did anyone know what is the twilek sister ritual looks like? why bioware cut/fade to black/censor it? They probably did the FTB because it's long and boring. I would imagine it's kind of like the sisterhood rituals in some other world communities, like the geisha in Japan (drink sake together and pledge to be sisters for life). Or perhaps something like a sorority initiation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grania Posted May 10, 2012 Share Posted May 10, 2012 (edited) I did the ritual on my knight and filled in the blanks with slumber party stuff. Talking about boys and playing outja and whatnot Edited May 10, 2012 by grania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FigeroMentel Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 First thing to learn about being a Jedi; Take all your preconceptions about what is good, pure and helpful to the galaxy at large and assume they're dark side choices. Passive apathy is light side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorwinCorey Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 who said anything about passive? ...it's the forming of emotional entanglements that can cloud one's vision... thats why doing it is a dark side choice. not evil, but ...lets say risky. Anakin, as an example, fell because of his attachments. The worst things he did, were because of his feelings, feelings of fear, of love, lust, love. ...if he had had a more.. detatched viewpoint, he could have taken more effective actions, seen the bigger picture. it's to avoid that risk that makes emotions darkside (passion being the realm of the sith, after all.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dprijadi Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 Or perhaps something like a sorority initiation. hmm sorority.. isnt this ritual involves copious amount of alcoholic beverages and some degree of nudity ? the only other fade to black i know was when a female Imperial Agent in Hutta buys her way out by bribing a criminal with love/sexs.. that part also got censored by bioware (fade to black) i dont imply these twilek ritual consist of those kind of things, i just curious about the twilek culture of sisterhood.. i googled and never find anything at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arodin Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 The way I see it, Jedi form relationships all the time. They're still human and they can't just turn off their emotions like flicking a switch. Forming a close bond with someone just means they're a little bit more susceptible to the dark side. They might fear for the safety of their loved ones when they're not around to protect them (fear leads to anger, etc). If something terrible happens to them, they could be tempted to seek revenge. So you get some dark side points if you go along with this ritual, but I don't think making that choice means you are playing a dark Jedi, necessarily. It's not like it instantly turns you to Dark V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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