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you are putting out great numbers, I have not seen rauders doing much more than that.

 

good stuff, maybe some of the qq will quiet down.

 

I have been trying to do that with my other thread through simple tips and discussion. This thread is more centered towards helping people based on their parses so we can actually see what they are doing then give feedback on how to improve it.

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pvp is pathetic in this game so ...

 

fyi i pvp and pve in this game (two 50's, one over 50 valor the other over 60)

 

Pathetic as in what? Pvp offers far more challenge than pve. I've done every op every HM and some nightmare. Its just rotation optimization and having no one mess up. Its like synchronized swimming with mouse clicks.

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http://i.imgur.com/K2dnb.png

http://i.imgur.com/wCiuN.png

 

* Post your parses below for Bodygaurd Healer, Arsenal Merc, Pyro Merc.

 

* Lets get some constructive feedback going for improving each others

 

Hey mate, could you please post your rotation aswell? Those are some great numbers. I'm having issues geting more than 250k damage done on that particular fight in 8-man. I feel like I'm missing something, or doing something wrong for that matter and can't exactly pinpoint what it is. Thanks in advance ! :p

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This is from a bodyward:

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/4186/colonelvorgath.jpg

 

Totally owned from a sorc, as expected ><

 

How do you figure? The difference in healing is precisely reflected in the difference in the number of targets you can each AOE heal. If you look at 'directed' healing (i.e. heals where they are needed, and tank healing notably) you were well in the lead. I'm also willing to bet you did substantially less overhealing.

 

This is what the numbers should look like. Sorcs are for splash healing all over the raid, mercs are for direct reactive healing where it's needed most.

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Hey mate, could you please post your rotation aswell? Those are some great numbers. I'm having issues geting more than 250k damage done on that particular fight in 8-man. I feel like I'm missing something, or doing something wrong for that matter and can't exactly pinpoint what it is. Thanks in advance ! :p

 

Same rotation except use unload on cooldown. If you have another tracer missile casting while barrage procs, cancel ur tracer missile and cast unload. Unload Unload Unload Unload ON COOLDOWN, its your hardest hitting attack.

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Gear: All rakata eliminator except

-black hole bracers

-implants are both columi eliminator augmented

-head is black hole augmented

-weapons are both augmented rakata

 

all augments are +18 aim

Relics are matrix cube and campaign relic of kinetic tempest

Rakata aim stim

 

Pyro http://s13.postimage.org/6sbbkij93/Pyro_parse_1300.png

 

Arsenal http://s8.postimage.org/m764iijvp/Arsenal_parse_1328.png

 

Arsenal with DFA added into rotation (which I see some people do even on single target boss fights) http://s14.postimage.org/6esd3vsox/Arsenal_with_DFA_1268.png

 

Here I took out matrix cube and shut off rakata aim stim for a total loss of 170 aim, or about the amount you could get from augmenting all ur gear (and some power loss obvi)- result was a loss of about 100 dps http://s18.postimage.org/raenf6end/Minus_aim.png

 

Note- for arsenal I never have to use rapid shots because of crits with TM i never go above 40 heat. Lack of rapid shots/number of attacks in Arsenal make damage proc relic a lot less useful

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Gear: All rakata eliminator except

-black hole bracers

-implants are both columi eliminator augmented

-head is black hole augmented

-weapons are both augmented rakata

 

all augments are +18 aim

Relics are matrix cube and campaign relic of kinetic tempest

Rakata aim stim

 

Pyro http://s13.postimage.org/6sbbkij93/Pyro_parse_1300.png

 

Arsenal http://s8.postimage.org/m764iijvp/Arsenal_parse_1328.png

 

Arsenal with DFA added into rotation (which I see some people do even on single target boss fights) http://s14.postimage.org/6esd3vsox/Arsenal_with_DFA_1268.png

 

Here I took out matrix cube and shut off rakata aim stim for a total loss of 170 aim, or about the amount you could get from augmenting all ur gear (and some power loss obvi)- result was a loss of about 100 dps http://s18.postimage.org/raenf6end/Minus_aim.png

 

Note- for arsenal I never have to use rapid shots because of crits with TM i never go above 40 heat. Lack of rapid shots/number of attacks in Arsenal make damage proc relic a lot less useful

 

I personally am unsure if DFA is worth it single target for PvE raids. I know that on toth zorn, when they jump together, I use DFA, that should give you good dps.

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Pathetic as in what? Pvp offers far more challenge than pve. I've done every op every HM and some nightmare. Its just rotation optimization and having no one mess up. Its like synchronized swimming with mouse clicks.

 

pathetic as in compaired to every other game i have ever played pvp in.

 

pvp is just a minigame, much like space combat, or raids for that matter.

 

It is compartmentalized and the variables are completely controlled by the zone (which you get no choice in and there are only 4 variations).

 

I mean really, if I wanted to pvp on the same maps over and over an FPS is a much much better choice (i play both styles of game tbh).

 

Second reason why it is pathetic is there is no value in it. There is a carrot on a stick pvp gear that helps you with pvp and nothing else.

 

PVP in an mmorpg should have some value to the player. It could be defending your home (ship in this case I guess but whatever) or resources, or maybe defending other players from pk's while they down a world boss ... you get the idea.

 

PVP should encourage going out into the world, instead everyone hangs out in fleet once 50, no reason to go anywehere else, you zone into premade pvp zones, or zone into raids... i never expected to spend so little time on planets, but there is nothing there to go for/to ...

 

I cant even duel 90% of the time, fighting with friends for bragging rights and practice was always a lot of fun in many games that I have played.

 

This pvp minigame stuff sucks, WoW is almost as bad, but not quite. Too many spoon fed carrot on a stick mmo players now though. Thinking of going back to eve tbh (have reactivated and training offline but not active in that game atm).

 

Standing around fleet waiting for them to impliment another carrot on another stick is getting old.

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pathetic as in compaired to every other game i have ever played pvp in.

 

pvp is just a minigame, much like space combat, or raids for that matter.

 

It is compartmentalized and the variables are completely controlled by the zone (which you get no choice in and there are only 4 variations).

 

I mean really, if I wanted to pvp on the same maps over and over an FPS is a much much better choice (i play both styles of game tbh).

 

Second reason why it is pathetic is there is no value in it. There is a carrot on a stick pvp gear that helps you with pvp and nothing else.

 

PVP in an mmorpg should have some value to the player. It could be defending your home (ship in this case I guess but whatever) or resources, or maybe defending other players from pk's while they down a world boss ... you get the idea.

 

PVP should encourage going out into the world, instead everyone hangs out in fleet once 50, no reason to go anywehere else, you zone into premade pvp zones, or zone into raids... i never expected to spend so little time on planets, but there is nothing there to go for/to ...

 

I cant even duel 90% of the time, fighting with friends for bragging rights and practice was always a lot of fun in many games that I have played.

 

This pvp minigame stuff sucks, WoW is almost as bad, but not quite. Too many spoon fed carrot on a stick mmo players now though. Thinking of going back to eve tbh (have reactivated and training offline but not active in that game atm).

 

Standing around fleet waiting for them to impliment another carrot on another stick is getting old.

 

Thank god this is all your Opinion. PVE for PVPers is just a mini game to help them achive max lvl to help get to end game PVP faster or to make money to help suport there PVP habit. Without PVP in this game or any game PVE would not exist. I am sure you have seen the rise and fall of games due to there crappy PVP and PVE could not finacialy support the game to stay alive. Face the facts without the PVPers in this game it would already be dead. Again you have your crappy opinion and I have my Crappy Opinion just like everyone else has there Crappy Opinion. Next ?

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