aceavenger Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I don't want to be a tank in PvP. This tree needs a serious buff as far as survivability, we take too much damage for a melee tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treisababe Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Really deception on needs a small self heal like madness has then we will be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkzehhh Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Really deception on needs a small self heal like madness has then we will be fine. A Half decent self heal or dmg cooldown is needed for deception indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treisababe Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Or how about this... When activating Blackout you take -35% dmg for the duration can only be used ever 40 seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niijik Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Or replace Resourcefulness / Situational Awareness with an ability that goes: Grants you a 50%/100% chance that an attack that would otherwise kill you will instead reduce your health to 10% of your maximum health. In addition, you gain 99% damage reduction from all damage sources for 2 seconds. This ability cannot occur more than once per 120 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xancath Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I wouldn't sanction any buffs to deception or madness without first nerfing darkness enough to defeat it's viability as a dps spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toshman Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I wouldn't sanction any buffs to deception or madness without first nerfing darkness enough to defeat it's viability as a dps spec. really did you see the DPS #'s posted of darkness vs deception / madness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeroe Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I wouldn't sanction any buffs to deception or madness without first nerfing darkness enough to defeat it's viability as a dps spec. It isn't a viable DPS spec, it is a Viable survival spec. The reason it is so popular at the moment, is the sheer amount of survivability that comes with the Darkness spec. Making the spec a great 1v1 spec, but the DPS numbers are nothing compared to the numbers generated from Deception, I can't speak on Madness because I never fully tried the spec it just wasn't my style of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeverYoung Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 It isn't a viable DPS spec, it is a Viable survival spec. The reason it is so popular at the moment, is the sheer amount of survivability that comes with the Darkness spec. Making the spec a great 1v1 spec, but the DPS numbers are nothing compared to the numbers generated from Deception, I can't speak on Madness because I never fully tried the spec it just wasn't my style of play. This is wrong. Numbers in darkness bigger cuz of aoewither and discarge. but single target dps is a bit less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skorpeo Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Or replace Resourcefulness / Situational Awareness with an ability that goes: Grants you a 50%/100% chance that an attack that would otherwise kill you will instead reduce your health to 10% of your maximum health. In addition, you gain 99% damage reduction from all damage sources for 2 seconds. This ability cannot occur more than once per 120 seconds. Cheat Death remake? As long as they dont screw it up like Blizz did and make Expertise factor into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defdaddy Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 I make my own buff cocktail of Hyberbattle Fortitude Stim + available medpacks. Throw-on the Bounty Hunter buff and I PvP with just under 18,000 HP no bounty hunter buff ~17,500 Plus medpacks to heal in combat 3,000 - 3,750 you will find yourself not so squishy. If you get some heals during combat too all the better. Hyperbattle Fortitude Stim + medpacks FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niijik Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 Cheat Death remake? As long as they dont screw it up like Blizz did and make Expertise factor into it. I've not played my rogue in a long time. How did Blizz screw up Cheat Death? Also when you mention that Expertise factors into it, does it mean that the more Expertise you get, the damage reduction goes up accordingly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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