KilllerRock Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I play a sentinel, and there were some changes, but some of the buffs we got we definitely did not need as the class overall was mostly fine before the patch, just needed a few tweaks to the trees. But i don't understand why all the threads are nerf mara/sent? Sure they could revert some of our stuff back, but is no one else out there getting ***** by DPS powertechs? There is a premade on our server that is just 3 DPS power techs and a ops healer and they just obliterate everyone, even our premade. They seriously can burst any class down in seconds way faster than even a couple mara's can. I'm fine if they revert a few of the buffs sents/maras got back to pre 1.2. But they better nerf power techs the same because right now they are dominating my whole server at max level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveandDieinLA Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 There are also powertech qq threads, but since there are less powertechs their is less complaining. Seen some Show qqing as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalmac Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Well when you have the best of the best say a class is OP then it is pretty much is a given that they are: These guys do nothing but PVP on all MMOs so they would know better then anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItGetsAllOver Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Pyro PT (and the VG counterpart) were actually nerfed significantly. While they can still put out some serious burst if they get lucky, their survivability took a HUGE hit. Lots of PT players rerolled to the new FotM: Sentinel/Marauder. So just like a few weeks ago when there were QQ threads about Pyro PTs flooding the forums, the new FotM is Marauder/Sentinel. Less people getting killed by the FotM = less QQ. It'll happen again when Sent/Mara gets nerfed and everybody moves to the new FotM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polopopoo Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 1. Because a well played mara beats everything but a tank assassin in dps gear. 2. There are a great number more maras then assassins. 3. If you dps a PT hard, they die. 4. Melee beats everything that has too stand still. Aka anything that channels or casts, healing or dps. Problem isn't mara's, its all dps that have tank like abilities. Burst is fine when all burst classes die when equally targeted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Eternal- Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I play a sentinel, and there were some changes, but some of the buffs we got we definitely did not need as the class overall was mostly fine before the patch, just needed a few tweaks to the trees. But i don't understand why all the threads are nerf mara/sent? Sure they could revert some of our stuff back, but is no one else out there getting ***** by DPS powertechs? There is a premade on our server that is just 3 DPS power techs and a ops healer and they just obliterate everyone, even our premade. They seriously can burst any class down in seconds way faster than even a couple mara's can. I'm fine if they revert a few of the buffs sents/maras got back to pre 1.2. But they better nerf power techs the same because right now they are dominating my whole server at max level. Probably because it is swing, swing, swing dead.....or because it takes 3 and 4 players to kill them. The imbalance is severely obvious. To argue against it makes you in denial or completely oblivious to what pvp is like currently.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwnshoppe Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Hrm, well maras are already the highest DPS with the best damage reduction for PvP. Then 1.2 happened, maras got significantly buffed. Pyros and Shadows got significant nerfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polopopoo Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 1. Because a well played mara beats everything but a tank assassin in dps gear. 2. There are a great number more maras then assassins. 3. If you dps a PT hard, they die. 4. Melee beats everything that has too stand still. Aka anything that channels or casts, healing or dps. Problem isn't mara's, its all dps that have tank like abilities. Burst is fine when all burst classes die when equally targeted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveandDieinLA Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Hrm, well maras are already the highest DPS with the best damage reduction for PvP. Then 1.2 happened, maras got significantly buffed. Pyros and Shadows got significant nerfs. Powertechs were and still are the highest damage output class in the game. And what nerf happend to shadows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpsmash Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Nerf mages, they have too much burst for their ability to control. 75k Ice Lance! What, wrong game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Eternal- Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Hrm, well maras are already the highest DPS with the best damage reduction for PvP. Then 1.2 happened, maras got significantly buffed. Pyros and Shadows got significant nerfs. The real difference is survivability. Maras/Sentinels, Pyros, and Shadows all have outstanding dps; however, maras/sentinels can live 4/5 times longer than everyone else on the battlefield. It is a game of glass cannons currently but when you add high survivability for one class, that one class will reign supreme; maras are currently unbeatable one vs one. Frankly, it is making pvp pitiful to participate in currently. When you know you cannot beat one particular class no matter what one vs one, there is no real point in pvping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audenlol Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Well when you have the best of the best say a class is OP then it is pretty much is a given that they are: These guys do nothing but PVP on all MMOs so they would know better then anyone. He complains of the easiest marauder/sent spec there is to shut down. And he plays a shadow ... so yeah.. Just more fotm marauder hate from that video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SajPl Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 (edited) I play a sentinel, and there were some changes, but some of the buffs we got we definitely did not need as the class overall was mostly fine before the patch, just needed a few tweaks to the trees. But i don't understand why all the threads are nerf mara/sent? Sure they could revert some of our stuff back, but is no one else out there getting ***** by DPS powertechs? There is a premade on our server that is just 3 DPS power techs and a ops healer and they just obliterate everyone, even our premade. They seriously can burst any class down in seconds way faster than even a couple mara's can. I'm fine if they revert a few of the buffs sents/maras got back to pre 1.2. But they better nerf power techs the same because right now they are dominating my whole server at max level. If you are a marauder/sentinel and lose to a pyro you are very bad. Im sorry that is the trouth of it. Its a simple DPS race and you have 4 abilities to prolong your life while they have 1 12 sec shield while you will have a full 30 sec rebuke due to dots+the 3 other defensive cooldowns. The real difference is survivability. Maras/Sentinels, Pyros, and Shadows all have outstanding dps; however, maras/sentinels can live 4/5 times longer than everyone else on the battlefield. It is a game of glass cannons currently but when you add high survivability for one class, that one class will reign supreme; maras are currently unbeatable one vs one. Frankly, it is making pvp pitiful to participate in currently. When you know you cannot beat one particular class no matter what one vs one, there is no real point in pvping. This. Edited April 25, 2012 by SajPl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getdownsb Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Well when you have the best of the best say a class is OP then it is pretty much is a given that they are: These guys do nothing but PVP on all MMOs so they would know better then anyone. 1. That video is nothing but nonstop QQ. 2. Powerrr derp isn't that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derian Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Well when you have the best of the best say a class is OP then it is pretty much is a given that they are: These guys do nothing but PVP on all MMOs so they would know better then anyone. That's just a giant QQ video. Looks pretty nub to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derian Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Probably because it is swing, swing, swing dead.....or because it takes 3 and 4 players to kill them. The imbalance is severely obvious. To argue against it makes you in denial or completely oblivious to what pvp is like currently.. LOL 3 to 4 people to kill a sentinel. ok buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KilllerRock Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 If you are a marauder/sentinel and lose to a pyro you are very bad. Im sorry that is the trouth of it. Its a simple DPS race and you have 4 abilities to prolong your life while they have 1 12 sec shield while you will have a full 30 sec rebuke due to dots+the 3 other defensive cooldowns. No, i don't lose to a PT when i have all my cooldowns up 1vs1. But you add healers to the mix on both sides and all the encounters when my long CDs are down they will win. They have ridiculously high sustained damage that can't be avoided like a smash/sweep can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uvirith Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Well when you have the best of the best say a class is OP then it is pretty much is a given that they are: These guys do nothing but PVP on all MMOs so they would know better then anyone. Why do you post here a video of a mediocre assassin pwning some noobs in alderaan? I dont get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zachbuford Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 No point in beating around the bush and it is very late so I will let this cute video explain my point for me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJWeWMKfa3g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macroecon Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 I have to chuckle about the admin's decision to move this thread off the general class forum onto the BH forum. Too many Mara/Sent threads making the general class forum unsightly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpsmash Posted April 25, 2012 Share Posted April 25, 2012 Well when you have the best of the best say a class is OP then it is pretty much is a given that they are: These guys do nothing but PVP on all MMOs so they would know better then anyone. Lol. "I have no idea what I'm talking about so here's someone else's opinion. It must be true because he is better than me!" Someone else's opinion is just that, an opinion. They are just as biased as anyone else. @op : "nerf this and that" threads are so old and boring. Complain about something that is not never-ending, like multpiple bugs/glitches, how bad the legacy items are or that BW needs to merge servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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