zagarok Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 What? I played EQ. No queues at all, even at launch, you got in right away...the servers all crashed a number of times in the first week...but they didn't have the ability to show you queues, and during peak hours, you might wait a 2 minutes to finish logging into the server. City of Heroes, day 1...no queues. Champions Online, day 1...no queues (also, no servers, so you didn't have to worry about accidentally choosing the busy server). In fact, the only time I had even heard of the concept of a server telling you that you had to wait to get in was WoW. But I didn't play it, just heard rumors. EQ was NEVER as popular as this game, CoH is F2p and not popular, champions online is also f2p and not popular, atleast come with a popular game that has had no queues, if there is any. oh and thats f2p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zagarok Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Well I have already paid $300 for both me and my husband's CE.. so I don't know why people are saying "free". £5 for early access too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbstick Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 o my goodness, another that hasnt played a newly released mmo. i understand how other companies might not have the means to help themselves like blizzard, but bioware has papa EA too, they have the funds. There is a solution. Just because it happens all the time doesn't make it ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimarn_Fett Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) A little extra info for your time-analysis. I'm hoping your not using the estimated wait time in queue on the server-selection screen, it seems way off. Today login scenario: First login: 20:00 CET qued as number 312 at 23:20 CET Estimated wait started at 1hour and 50 min at 23:20 CET it was 1 hour and 15min I am not enjoying that I had to pay for this early access. Especially when you planned that I cannot play. So having fun - not so much . edit: got in at 00:08 to enjoy 4½ hours of playing instead of sleeping As to the paying for early access part (as commented on earlier), My invoice says around 8€ in early access fee. Edited December 18, 2011 by Kimarn_Fett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethality Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 What? I played EQ. No queues at all, even at launch, you got in right away...the servers all crashed a number of times in the first week...but they didn't have the ability to show you queues, and during peak hours, you might wait a 2 minutes to finish logging into the server. City of Heroes, day 1...no queues. Champions Online, day 1...no queues (also, no servers, so you didn't have to worry about accidentally choosing the busy server). In fact, the only time I had even heard of the concept of a server telling you that you had to wait to get in was WoW. But I didn't play it, just heard rumors. Times are different now. There weren't enough players when EQ launched to be concerned about it. Today, these games are mainstream (thanks primarily to WoW) and even with all of the tech in the world, you can't support limitless users and connections without degrading the service. Queues are necessary during the launch period, when traffic is unlike any other during the course of an MMO. And the good news for TOR would be to see queues 3 months form now as well, as that means the game is an unabashed it. If server merges are already occurring - what will happen if they open too many - that's what we don't want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bandred Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 This is true, because you aren't paying for this. It's free early access. I'm sorry but this is not true. The pre-order fee that granted early access was negligble, but yesterday, the 16th December, my credit card was charged for the full price of the game. I'm quite sure that all of those retailers who were asked by EA/Bioware to send out pre-orders for delivery on the 16th December also charged their customers at the time of despatch. As long as this issue is fixed by the 20th December, you may argue that my comment is not vaild, but do you seriously think it will be ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zagarok Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 i understand how other companies might not have the means to help themselves like blizzard, but bioware has papa EA too, they have the funds. There is a solution. Just because it happens all the time doesn't make it ok. and all EA did with WAR was make more servers, and then after the merged them, all they need to do is upgrade the pop limit. nar shaddar when i was last on had 37 people there.. ***.. it should have like 150+ and they say the planets are big.. clearly big enough for more people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narza Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 "Estimated waiting time: 1 hour and 45 minutes" on the Bloodworthy server... Ouch, that really stings. That's a 6 hour queue really, the estimates that are given are complete and utter ********, you can basically multiply them by 3 and there you have your actual wait time. Got to half my queue, got some error code saying that server was going into maintenance (***?!). Re queued only to get in at 1600, am now waiting for 4 hours or so and am still not in, am at place 150 or so as I'm typing. FML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twotak Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 5 hours of waiting and still in the 900's que.. wuhuuuu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozakkoo Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I give them a month to fix this issue. I can wait max 20 min in the queue. If they cannot archive it with their budget, I am moving somewhere else. I recommend you all guys to do the same, or they will keep ignoring us as usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
physicsninjas Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Once the game goes live, a queue of any amount of time is totally unacceptable, period! This is 100% how I feel. Don't care what used to happen on mmos or anything else. When I want to play I want to play period. If I cannot I will not pay. That's the bottom line and it does not matter what you say. Currently I play WOW while I wait for the servers to queue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuippingPenguin Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Please make a free character transfer... I don't want to start anew on a different server, but these queues are unacceptable... more than three hours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DliteDK Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 i like the stick regarding EU PVP servers ... just go play on another server... lol if i could move my char i would but hey only 423 ahead og me now... been in que since 1900 so its only 4½ hrs so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilding Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 3.5 hours moved 1000 places (or so) and still 530 odd from logging on EA/BW get a grip (QUICKLY) before people give up for good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svache Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 the "30 days free access" How is it free if you have to spend 60 bucks or more to get that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamrod Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 you clearly havent played a new mmo then, AION had 3 hrs queues that were exact, AoC had hour queues, rift had 2 hr queues. you been stuck on WoW and expect everything to be for carebares? before the game has even launched? the max that the queues need to be is 30 mins and an exact 30 mins, not 2 hrs. What? I played Rift, I've never been queued for my server. I didn't play at launch, I played 6 months later....but I've gotten in immediately every time. I've played AoC as well...not at launch, but never been queued. I played Star Trek Online, once again, not at launch, but never been queued. EQ2: Never queued. I've played League of Legends...and although not an MMO, super popular. I was once queued for 5 minutes. That's the longest I've waited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clonecak Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 A little extra info for your time-analysis. I'm hoping your not using the estimated wait time in queue on the server-selection screen, it seems way off. Today login scenario: First login: 20:00 CET qued as number 312 at 23:20 CET Estimated wait started at 1hour and 50 min at 23:20 CET it was 1 hour and 15min I am not enjoying that I had to pay for this early access. Especially when you planned that I cannot play. So having fun - not so much . Know the feeling. I logged in 483to in woe est wait time 35 minutes. That was 35 minutes avoid now 275. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthRaven Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 What is this nonsense of being disconnected by the server only to have to reconnect to a "25 minute" aka 1 hour or more wait?!!?!? Give a grace period or something, increase server capacity. This is absolutely rediculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedgar Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 That's a 6 hour queue really, the estimates that are given are complete and utter ********, you can basically multiply them by 3 and there you have your actual wait time. Got to half my queue, got some error code saying that server was going into maintenance (***?!). Re queued only to get in at 1600, am now waiting for 4 hours or so and am still not in, am at place 150 or so as I'm typing. FML The average waiting time is based on a complicated mix of wishfull thinking and denial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QFez Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 agree'd but I'd be ok if my community lost about 600 people so our q on The Swiftsure wouldn't be so ridiculous Lose a bit more than that... Buddy was in a 1400 person queue yesterday; took four hours. Then he DC'd when he got in. Must admit I smiled a little. The rage was palpable. Does that make me a bad person? -------------- That aside, where would you all transfer to? Most of the west coast servers are suffering queues (albeit not as bad as swiftsure). Looking at numbers of players per region, there doesn't seem to be that many on, which leads me to believe the player cap on each server is quite low. Considering the almost complete lack of lag in the game I'm sure the cap could be raised. Isn't exactly giving new players a good impression. Couple of mates are back from Bali today and their first ToR experience will be sitting in a collosal queue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegusPrime Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 The servers need some serious upgrades and new servers need to be added. people tend to walk away from a game if you have to await to get in especially when one is paying a monthly subscription to play. Bioware should have been ware of this issue with the stress tests and be ready for at the very least the number of people who pre-ordered the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanulrich Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 I thought this would be different. Greedy people giving bans on the forums, and no one to fix the servers. Sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danapa Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 2 hours in queue while there are other servers not full, and no im not moving to another and abandoning my lvl 21 commando,i got invited in the first wave so i was there first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazdvl Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Devs I do not envy your jobs in the least!! A balancing act to say the least maybe we should all take a collective breath here and remember this is a game it is here to relive stress, I think most the people who are getting torqued about long wait times are the same folks who might say "this game is fail" if there are server combines in 1 month due to balancing number of servers with number of players. I say GO FOR IT put as many servers online that you can field and BELIEVE that the populations will build to match number of servers. In the words of Patton if you are not advancing you are losing.....or something like that.....hehe :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scan Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Its the feeling of being ignored that irks. Why not allow server transfer?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!? I will take all 40 of guild off the server and into a low pop one, we were placed in this hole by the launch program. Freedon nadd........ AARRGGH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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