Darth_Vidius Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I lost count, are you the 10049th or 10050th player to cancel. I need to now how many people I can jump in front of for EGA. Thanks BW for a kick - butt game, i just cannot wait to get in and meet all of the good people that WILL play the game. Well said my friend lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigbrick Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 THIS SAYS IT ALL!! COPY AND PASTE SO THEY GET THE MESSAGE! Originally Posted by Kinegos This isn't a troll, and isn't exactly QQ although there is some of that involved. I just want to put it down for the record that the way this early access program has been implemented is truly one of the most poorly conceived ideas that I've ever personally encountered in over 25 years of playing video games. I've personally participated in launches of 6 other MMO games, and there is nothing in those experiences that compares to how ridiculous this process is. When you are dealing with a pre-launch even that is only for pre-order customers, after an extensive and massive beta testing period that was a huge success according to nearly all sources involved - it begs the huge question as to what is the limiting factor in the way you have chosen to roll out this game. I personally participated in the beta in a very limited way (not by choice, mind you, I just wasn't lucky enough to get a key) and was only online during the big Thanksgiving weekend test. That test was wonderful - there were a huge number of servers, and a huge population of testers. The game performance was amazing. So, EA/BW - what exactly are you afraid of? The ONLY way this should have been done is to have given ALL pre-orders (perhaps separated only by level of game purchased - i.e. CE customers get 7 days, SE get 5, e.g.) access at exactly the same time. Of course it will overload the servers and queues would ensue and all that - but that's what we all expect. Making your customers wait unknowingly with no idea how long it will be or when to expect an email is just adding insult to injury. A poor alternative would have been to send out emails with a set time and day that your access would be available. I read in the top post how you are monitoring the server performance and are rolling waves based on server performance. Are you seriously saying you have to wonder at this point if your servers can perform up to the task - when you probably still have 90% of the launch day players yet to even be able to play? That is not at all a good message to be sending at the beginning of an MMO franchise. At any rate, I love this game. I love BW. But I truly despise and am sickened by the way you chose to put your customers through so much stress for absolutely no good or justifiable reason. I truly hope you improve, because this is a very very poor way to start out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byker Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Wow all these walls of txt posts just whizzing by without a single person reading them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zangton Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 ok i was in chino state prison when i found out about the pre-order........its not fair i couldnt wait until i got out and play this game. its not fair that i wasnt able to order this game since i was locked up......now i have to wait....this is worse anticipation than my release date....... I want to kiss you right on the mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsmeat Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 You guys complaining are stupid and imature GROW UP! you pre ordered early and got ample time playing thru beta! GROW UP!! Why not log at launch 12-20-2011 and get over it SHEESH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MortisMortavius Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Hey everyone. We absolutely understand you want to get in and play the game early. It's one of the reasons we expanded our Early Game Access from a maximum of five days to a maximum of seven days. However, there are a couple of important points to realize about today's opening salvo of invites, and the procedure in general for Early Game Access and launch. First, Early Game Access and launch is not supposed to be a stress test. In our previous Beta Testing Weekends we got up to very large concurrent number of players and brought invites into the game at a very high rate. That was done to stress test every aspect of our systems and servers, and essentially to see if they broke. In some cases, they did, but that helped us improve for launch. For us, launch isn't just about stuffing our servers with as many people as possible. As anyone who's been through a large MMO launch can tell you, that experience can be painful. Our aim with this launch was to ramp things up gradually, to spread our player population out amongst a variety of servers, to maintain all server types, and to keep queuing to a minimum (although we expect that to happen as we head towards December 20th). So far, all that has been successful for us on Day One. The second thing to realize is scale. We invited more people to play Star Wars: The Old Republic today than many other MMO launches manage in their entire head-start process. As I mentioned earlier today, when we opened pre-orders we had a huge spike in numbers - far more than most MMOs capture at launch. That was the initial rush. After that, our pre-orders settled down. What this means is that tomorrow, you'll effectively start to see the pre-order timeline expand. You'll see people who have pre-ordered later than July getting invites. The day after that, more people will be invited. We're actually planning to invite more tomorrow than today, and invite the same number again on Thursday - at which point we'll be into the original 'five days of Early Game Access'. Last thing. Why aren't we continuing to send waves over time? Two main reasons - one, because we need to see that the servers are maintaining stability over time; adding a lot of players in a short period (in other words, stress testing) can cause stability issues. Two, our plan is to continue to add servers - but carefully, and in response to demand. We need to monitor that demand and role out servers accordingly. A long-term recipe for MMO failure is to add a lot of servers early on, and then when population decreases, have to close those servers and merge them together. Our aim is for Star Wars: The Old Republic to be around for a long time to come. Today's just the first step in that - an early step, too - and we'll be running smoothly, with a stable population, before too long. Dumbest idea ever ... you're completely ignoring the fact that people don't randomly join servers and automatically opt for lowest population ... People join servers based on where their friends are and considering you don't have a character xfer system setup ... And why is it you say it's not a stress test but then say it IS a stress test ... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobudo Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=4196&page=644 lol 5 mins and 20 pages ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COVERTDESTROYER Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 *sniffs* This thread makes me proud. So many people will join the empire. Don't listen to these 'mature' hippies, just let the anger go and join the empire. Sith* your only a few thousand years out though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sillybill Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Originally Posted by Kinegos This isn't a troll, and isn't exactly QQ although there is some of that involved. I just want to put it down for the record that the way this early access program has been implemented is truly one of the most poorly conceived ideas that I've ever personally encountered in over 25 years of playing video games. I've personally participated in launches of 6 other MMO games, and there is nothing in those experiences that compares to how ridiculous this process is. When you are dealing with a pre-launch even that is only for pre-order customers, after an extensive and massive beta testing period that was a huge success according to nearly all sources involved - it begs the huge question as to what is the limiting factor in the way you have chosen to roll out this game. I personally participated in the beta in a very limited way (not by choice, mind you, I just wasn't lucky enough to get a key) and was only online during the big Thanksgiving weekend test. That test was wonderful - there were a huge number of servers, and a huge population of testers. The game performance was amazing. So, EA/BW - what exactly are you afraid of? The ONLY way this should have been done is to have given ALL pre-orders (perhaps separated only by level of game purchased - i.e. CE customers get 7 days, SE get 5, e.g.) access at exactly the same time. Of course it will overload the servers and queues would ensue and all that - but that's what we all expect. Making your customers wait unknowingly with no idea how long it will be or when to expect an email is just adding insult to injury. A poor alternative would have been to send out emails with a set time and day that your access would be available. I read in the top post how you are monitoring the server performance and are rolling waves based on server performance. Are you seriously saying you have to wonder at this point if your servers can perform up to the task - when you probably still have 90% of the launch day players yet to even be able to play? That is not at all a good message to be sending at the beginning of an MMO franchise. At any rate, I love this game. I love BW. But I truly despise and am sickened by the way you chose to put your customers through so much stress for absolutely no good or justifiable reason. I truly hope you improve, because this is a very very poor way to start out. I can see how this must be the poorest early access ever. First, they offer us UP TO 5 days (meaning between 1 and 4) head start. So, I will do the math for you, at the MOST, you should be starting on the 15th (again, this is best-case scenario, and 1 day is all you are ENTITLED to). So, here we are, it's the 13th which is *gasp* even 2 days (again, I've done the math for you) BEFORE the earliest possible access to the head start. This is considered poor to you? You do realize all they HAVE to give you is access on the 19th, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serens Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Originally Posted by Kinegos This isn't a troll, and isn't exactly QQ although there is some of that involved. I just want to put it down for the record that the way this early access program has been implemented is truly one of the most poorly conceived ideas that I've ever personally encountered in over 25 years of playing video games. I've personally participated in launches of 6 other MMO games, and there is nothing in those experiences that compares to how ridiculous this process is. When you are dealing with a pre-launch even that is only for pre-order customers, after an extensive and massive beta testing period that was a huge success according to nearly all sources involved - it begs the huge question as to what is the limiting factor in the way you have chosen to roll out this game. I personally participated in the beta in a very limited way (not by choice, mind you, I just wasn't lucky enough to get a key) and was only online during the big Thanksgiving weekend test. That test was wonderful - there were a huge number of servers, and a huge population of testers. The game performance was amazing. So, EA/BW - what exactly are you afraid of? The ONLY way this should have been done is to have given ALL pre-orders (perhaps separated only by level of game purchased - i.e. CE customers get 7 days, SE get 5, e.g.) access at exactly the same time. Of course it will overload the servers and queues would ensue and all that - but that's what we all expect. Making your customers wait unknowingly with no idea how long it will be or when to expect an email is just adding insult to injury. A poor alternative would have been to send out emails with a set time and day that your access would be available. I read in the top post how you are monitoring the server performance and are rolling waves based on server performance. Are you seriously saying you have to wonder at this point if your servers can perform up to the task - when you probably still have 90% of the launch day players yet to even be able to play? That is not at all a good message to be sending at the beginning of an MMO franchise. At any rate, I love this game. I love BW. But I truly despise and am sickened by the way you chose to put your customers through so much stress for absolutely no good or justifiable reason. I truly hope you improve, because this is a very very poor way to start out. --- /ironfist clap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xBloodCloudx Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Biggest Thread ever...of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiidorii Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Just got an email saying 'Welcome to Early access' As a fled to my computer I didnt see it was just my mate taking the pss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinKapow Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 "I love BW. But I truly despise and am sickened by the way you chose to put your customers through so much stress for absolutely no good or justifiable reason." Stress? Waiting is causing people stress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leauweag Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 page 666? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darbius Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 i just do not understand why they lunch in waves, and not in constant waves, maybe 30 mins cd eahc one, but contant 'till the end. I don't know about you, but I usually like to lunch all at once instead of in waves. I never saw the point in having multiple lunches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NykNayme Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Christ, so much whining in this thread. It's rather funny, but it's just pathetic seeing how childish adults can be. who said anything about adults???? w t f .... adults? guess imma go home den... daymn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakathafi Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Originally Posted by Kinegos This isn't a troll, and isn't exactly QQ although there is some of that involved. I just want to put it down for the record that the way this early access program has been implemented is truly one of the most poorly conceived ideas that I've ever personally encountered in over 25 years of playing video games. I've personally participated in launches of 6 other MMO games, and there is nothing in those experiences that compares to how ridiculous this process is. When you are dealing with a pre-launch even that is only for pre-order customers, after an extensive and massive beta testing period that was a huge success according to nearly all sources involved - it begs the huge question as to what is the limiting factor in the way you have chosen to roll out this game. I personally participated in the beta in a very limited way (not by choice, mind you, I just wasn't lucky enough to get a key) and was only online during the big Thanksgiving weekend test. That test was wonderful - there were a huge number of servers, and a huge population of testers. The game performance was amazing. So, EA/BW - what exactly are you afraid of? The ONLY way this should have been done is to have given ALL pre-orders (perhaps separated only by level of game purchased - i.e. CE customers get 7 days, SE get 5, e.g.) access at exactly the same time. Of course it will overload the servers and queues would ensue and all that - but that's what we all expect. Making your customers wait unknowingly with no idea how long it will be or when to expect an email is just adding insult to injury. A poor alternative would have been to send out emails with a set time and day that your access would be available. I read in the top post how you are monitoring the server performance and are rolling waves based on server performance. Are you seriously saying you have to wonder at this point if your servers can perform up to the task - when you probably still have 90% of the launch day players yet to even be able to play? That is not at all a good message to be sending at the beginning of an MMO franchise. At any rate, I love this game. I love BW. But I truly despise and am sickened by the way you chose to put your customers through so much stress for absolutely no good or justifiable reason. I truly hope you improve, because this is a very very poor way to start out. SO TRUE, MASTER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundWeave Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Tesseractual Joined: Jul 2009 Today , 08:49 AM If you are reading this it is already the future. The post occurred several pages ago. The Dodgers win the world cup and world hunger has already been solved. Rejoice and go outside. Starsider Balex Orlic The Protectorate This was the best one so far:)))) I love youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zreben Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Originally Posted by jabantik I feel a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of nerds suddenly cried out in rage Funniest Post I've seen all day!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runback Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Not to be a jerk, but if you didnt preorder day 1, why are you mad that you didnt get in on day 1? You have no right to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugheadz Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 I pissed my pants laughing at how many pages of rants and QQ you guys have spawned, shame on you guys for causing all this fuss because you didnt get your email, tell me what makes you more special than the ones who have already got in? it says "up to 5 days" still 7 to go before launch.. PA****INGTHETIC guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndySpaceGoat Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 devil. \,,/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeugon Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Wow all these walls of txt posts just whizzing by without a single person reading them. I read this one, does it count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGeorges Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Its being written as the thread grows... I hope I can be a part of it! Matt and Trey, if you see this.... immortalize me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bramblerose Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 "He's mad that trusts in the tameness of a wolf, a horse's health, a boy's love, or a *****'s oath." William Shakespeare, King Lear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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