Kaesoron Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) With what little info we have on new pvp gear, what is the incentive to continue to pvp pre 1.2? With Centurion gear becoming obsolete due to the new entry level gear. The only incentive I can see is to aquire champion gear in an effort to make the road to BM a little bit easier. K. Edited March 23, 2012 by Kaesoron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaodon Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 If you're PvPing for "rewards", then you should delete your account, because that's not what PvP is about. If you want rewards, go PvE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amp_ Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 You could get to 1k Warzone Commendations in preparation for 1.2. You may also want to stock up on consumables, since their price is supposed to double. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaesoron Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) If you're PvPing for "rewards", then you should delete your account, because that's not what PvP is about. If you want rewards, go PvE. Hehe I saw that answer coming! For the most part I do enjoy pvp. For the past few days I have been getting my little butt kicked with my new 50 shadow which I dont really mind so much, but I started wondering how different it will be come 1.2, what to do with current commendations etc... K. Edited March 23, 2012 by Kaesoron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicain Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 If you're PvPing for "rewards", then you should delete your account, because that's not what PvP is about. If you want rewards, go PvE. Thanks for updating everyone on PVP means what you want it to me, god people were getting enjoyment from PVP from other aspects, thanks for setting us all straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaodon Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Thanks for updating everyone on PVP means what you want it to me, god people were getting enjoyment from PVP from other aspects, thanks for setting us all straight. You are most welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpectWar Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 im still doing wzs on all my characters trying to get full bm gear before the patch. its still gonna take time to get full bm gear after 1.2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cygnusxo Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 If you're PvPing for "rewards", then you should delete your account, because that's not what PvP is about. If you want rewards, go PvE. I think his question is valid, since if i don't pvp grind to, at least, get some pvp gear... I don't stand a chance against anyone. In this situation, pvp is not very fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaesoron Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) It is a valid question to a point, but due to me being silly and pushing enter by accident it appeared a little out of context. I have re-named the thread As a new'ish 50 I wonder if I should continue to collect commendations, spend them or just wait until 1.2 is out. K. Edited March 23, 2012 by Kaesoron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyrLXXVII Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) If you're PvPing for "rewards", then you should delete your account, because that's not what PvP is about. If you want rewards, go PvE. What if we like pvp and are just trying to stay competitive since its lame gear based pvp. Your actually looking like quite an ***. OP has a point though, because the other thread is even talking about how the expertise on the rookie set is higher then champion, so what incentive is there? Edited March 23, 2012 by MartyrLXXVII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inhibition Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 If you're PvPing for "rewards", then you should delete your account, because that's not what PvP is about. If you want rewards, go PvE. This is a giant contradiction. So PvE is about getting rewards, but PvP can't be like that? I keep hearing people should enjoy PvPing for the fun of it, and enjoy a level playing field. Fine. Give me easy to acquire PvE gear because I should be able to enjoy PvE for the FUN OF IT right? To see the cutscenes and the bosses am I right? Get out of here with this crap. It's a gigantic one sided argument. I am so tired of hearing novice pvpers whine about even playing fields and how one isn't a real pvper if you enjoy gear progression because its a crutch. The same bads whining about gear will Still be bad in 1.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyoMamoru Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 With what little info we have on new pvp gear, what is the incentive to continue to pvp pre 1.2? With Centurion gear becoming obsolete due to the new entry level gear. The only incentive I can see is to aquire champion gear in an effort to make the road to BM a little bit easier. K. Because, rated is coming, and so everyone should be striving to become the best they can skill wise if they want to succeed in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaodon Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) This is a giant contradiction. So PvE is about getting rewards, but PvP can't be like that? I keep hearing people should enjoy PvPing for the fun of it, and enjoy a level playing field. Fine. Give me easy to acquire PvE gear because I should be able to enjoy PvE for the FUN OF IT right? To see the cutscenes and the bosses am I right? Get out of here with this crap. It's a gigantic one sided argument. I am so tired of hearing novice pvpers whine about even playing fields and how one isn't a real pvper if you enjoy gear progression because its a crutch. The same bads whining about gear will Still be bad in 1.2 I bet you think playing Solitaire and playing Poker against real people is the same. Both use a deck of cards, right? PvE is quest memorization. The reward is gear progression, so you can start trying to memorize the next cool quest. PvP is .. not that. Its live, interactive, chaotic, and exhilarating competition. If you were a real competitor or knew any (think Olympics, not "pro sports"), you'd know they do it for the sake of doing it, for the glory, for the honor, not for the "payout". That is why kiddies think "gear progression = pvp". Edited March 23, 2012 by Zaodon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamanous Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Personally I am taking a pvp break. I have my points capped out and am simply doing pve stuff I have put off. More than enough to do with how little I play until 1.2 is out. Also I need the time to collect arse tons of metals so my friend can craft my augment crit orange gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blamminator Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I bet you think playing Solitaire and playing Poker against real people is the same. Both use a deck of cards, right? PvE is quest memorization. The reward is gear progression, so you can start trying to memorize the next cool quest. PvP is .. not that. Its live, interactive, chaotic, and exhilarating competition. If you were real competitor or knew any (think Olympics, not "pro sports"), you'd know they do it for the sake of doing it, for the glory, for the honor, not for the "payout". That is why kiddies think "gear progression = pvp". There is no way this guy isn't a teenager. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stilly Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Hehe I saw that answer coming! For the most part I do enjoy pvp. For the past few days I have been getting my little butt kicked with my new 50 shadow which I dont really mind so much, but I started wondering how different it will be come 1.2, what to do with current commendations etc... K. Takes all of two weeks to full champ if you do your dalies. Kiddy reward systems aside, pvp because it is fun. Funny though, as i say that, I think of countless pvpers that have quit due to the pvp being yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stilly Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I bet you think playing Solitaire and playing Poker against real people is the same. Both use a deck of cards, right? PvE is quest memorization. The reward is gear progression, so you can start trying to memorize the next cool quest. PvP is .. not that. Its live, interactive, chaotic, and exhilarating competition. If you were a real competitor or knew any (think Olympics, not "pro sports"), you'd know they do it for the sake of doing it, for the glory, for the honor, not for the "payout". That is why kiddies think "gear progression = pvp". Pro sports is about the game, not money. Just like working out has nothing to do with getting laid. All kidding aside, nice point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inhibition Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I bet you think playing Solitaire and playing Poker against real people is the same. Both use a deck of cards, right? PvE is quest memorization. The reward is gear progression, so you can start trying to memorize the next cool quest. PvP is .. not that. Its live, interactive, chaotic, and exhilarating competition. If you were a real competitor or knew any (think Olympics, not "pro sports"), you'd know they do it for the sake of doing it, for the glory, for the honor, not for the "payout". That is why kiddies think "gear progression = pvp". Your first comment is pure trolling so I won't bother with a response aside from commending your plethora of wit. Comparing PvP in a game to the Olympics is apples and oranges good sir. I agree with your assessment of PvP and PvE though. I too despise gear grinds. I am not endorsing a gear grind. I was pointing out the flaw in your argument, and my irritation at the sheer amount of crying going on in these forums. It is your opinion that PvP and PvE progression are viewed with two different scopes. Sure PvE becomes routine, essentially building a need for gear progression so you can carry on into the next raid, but I can not stress enough that tho PvP is more dynamic and involved because of the constant variety of opponents, eventually it will grow stale, just as PvE does. Only at a slower rate. Not to mention the OP asked a question and you quickly fired off the same propaganda thats all over these types of threads, and completely missed the fact that your response had nothing to do with the OP's question. Irritating and arrogant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stilly Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 There is no way this guy isn't a teenager. Just saying. There is no way you aren't a space robot. While we are making no sense and talking out of our asses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stilly Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Your first comment is pure trolling so I won't bother with a response aside from commending your plethora of wit. Comparing PvP in a game to the Olympics is apples and oranges good sir. I agree with your assessment of PvP and PvE though. I too despise gear grinds. I am not endorsing a gear grind. I was pointing out the flaw in your argument, and my irritation at the sheer amount of crying going on in these forums. It is your opinion that PvP and PvE progression are viewed with two different scopes. Sure PvE becomes routine, essentially building a need for gear progression so you can carry on into the next raid, but I can not stress enough that tho PvP is more dynamic and involved because of the constant variety of opponents, eventually it will grow stale, just as PvE does. Only at a slower rate. Not to mention the OP asked a question and you quickly fired off the same propaganda thats all over these types of threads, and completely missed the fact that your response had nothing to do with the OP's question. Irritating and arrogant. His opinion is arrogant. Yours is....wait....what? What makses your cryng any different than his, mine, that guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMKSED Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 If you're PvPing for "rewards", then you should delete your account, because that's not what PvP is about. If you want rewards, go PvE. I think what he means is, in the time period between now and 1.2 people who are BM are still getting stuff that will be super-beneficial to them in PvP while the people who aren't BM yet are wasting their time getting gear to be competitive come 1.2. They should put out the gear changes right now tbh so that way everyone has enough time to get on the playing field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inhibition Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 His opinion is arrogant. Yours is....wait....what? What makses your cryng any different than his, mine, that guys? No difference if we take your question at face value. Shall we really delve into the technicalities of public discourse? His reply to the OP was arrogant not his debate with me which has been his opinion versus mine. But your "that" guy, so I'll just cease this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaesoron Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) They should put out the gear changes right now tbh so that way everyone has enough time to get on the playing field. Yes that would be nice in the time period between now and 1.2 people who are BM are still getting stuff that will be super-beneficial to them in PvP while the people who aren't BM yet are wasting their time getting gear to be competitive come 1.2. This is the pretty much what I was aiming for. (I did accidentally push the enter button before finishing the inital post :/ It has been a long week hehe..) As an example I have a Centurion Robe, now should I spend time upgrading it to a Champion Robe or will the new Recruit Robe be better? I doubt I will get to BM anytime soon, what with RL getting in the way. Thanks K. Edited March 23, 2012 by Kaesoron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnugthreeonefive Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Considering War Hero gear requires you to trade in BM gear, you can work on getting that pre 1.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyrLXXVII Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Considering War Hero gear requires you to trade in BM gear, you can work on getting that pre 1.2 Lol, you do realize if that were and option they wouldn't care right? Anyone not a fresh 50 and not valor 60 gets bent over by this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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