TetraCleric Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) If you're going to claim that a Sentinel should be able to kill a healing Sorc 1v1 or they're "bad" then you obviously have some proof, right? I mean, you wouldn't just be talking out your *** or anything, right? My proof is every other sent/mara that isn't terribad. Two people off the top of my head that want sorcs nerfed, Tumri and biowareftw. Want more? Tiji from Wound in the Force, as well as Solaris from Wound in the Force. Edited February 24, 2012 by TetraCleric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justcallmetarzan Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Most skills, even crits, do not pop a 3.2k+ bubble. Another Sorc myth. Lolwut? My bubble gets knocked off all the time by crits and even some non crits. Mara sand snipers especially. And its not like I have a piddly little bubble. I've got 560 expertise and decent stats. At current gear levels a 3.2k bubble is pretty high. Pve bis will only give you like 3450 I believe. I think I have just past a 3.2k bubble in pvp gear. More maths when I get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalFinality Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 My proof is every other sent/mara that isn't terribad. Two people off the top of my head that want sorcs nerfed, Tumri and biowareftw. Uh huh. That's quite the convincing argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalFinality Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) Lolwut? My bubble gets knocked off all the time by crits and even some non crits. Mara sand snipers especially. And its not like I have a piddly little bubble. I've got 560 expertise and decent stats. At current gear levels a 3.2k bubble is pretty high. Pve bis will only give you like 3450 I believe. I think I have just past a 3.2k bubble in pvp gear. More maths when I get home. By what abilities? Most people seem to curiously omit this. "My bubble gets one shot all the time!" "How?" "A crit!" "From whatZ" "You're bad!" Edited February 24, 2012 by EternalFinality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetraCleric Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Uh huh. That's quite the convincing argument. You are honestly the first sentinel I have seen say they have a problem killing a healing sorc. Sorry you don't think its you that's the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batslav Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) players do average about 2~3k damage so wheres the problem in absorbing 2 hits ? Edited February 24, 2012 by Batslav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balmuck Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 If you're going to claim that a Sentinel should be able to kill a healing Sorc 1v1 no problems or they're "bad" then you obviously have some proof, right? I mean, you wouldn't just be talking out your *** or anything, right? No, you're horrible if you're a Sent and can't kill a Sorc in 1v1. Especially if you have PVP gear, lol. Your class is MADE for dueling and MADE for group situations. All of your utility effects the group. The speed buffs and the damage buffs you provide are second to one in this game... As far as fights go, you can probably last longer with 10% HP left than any Sorc can going 100% to dead. Any good Sent/Mara will tell you the same thing, lol. You're just emerassing yourself with your idiotic posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkfreudHC Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 That's actually exactly what it means. Damage per second. 1000 damage per second. In one second, you did 1000 damage. In 2 seconds, you did 2000 damage. Let's say the GCD is 1 sec, for simplicity's sake. Let use say I do 1500 damage in one ability, then 500 damage in the next. I did 1K DPS for two seconds, but I did not do 1k damage every second. DPS is average damage over time, the "steadiness" of that damage is not implicated at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jellosandwich Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 If you're going to claim that a Sentinel should be able to kill a healing Sorc 1v1 or they're "bad" then you obviously have some proof, right? I mean, you wouldn't just be talking out your *** or anything, right? Nope, you're bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalFinality Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) You are honestly the first sentinel I have seen say they have a problem killing a healing sorc. Sorry you don't think its you that's the problem. You aren't the first Sorc to pretend they are easily defeated and you won't be the last. Edited February 24, 2012 by EternalFinality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balmuck Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 You aren't the first Sorc to pretend they are easily defeated and you won't be the last. I told you dude, you're gonna get laughed at by the same exact people that play your class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalFinality Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) No, you're horrible if you're a Sent and can't kill a Sorc in 1v1. Especially if you have PVP gear, lol. Your class is MADE for dueling and MADE for group situations. All of your utility effects the group. The speed buffs and the damage buffs you provide are second to one in this game... As far as fights go, you can probably last longer with 10% HP left than any Sorc can going 100% to dead. Any good Sent/Mara will tell you the same thing, lol. You're just emerassing yourself with your idiotic posts. Yes, and I can kill most classes and specs 1v1, except two. Healing Sorcs/Sages, and healing Mercs/Commandos. If they are skilled and geared it's simply not possible with the tools both classes have at the current time. Edited February 24, 2012 by EternalFinality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetraCleric Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Let's say the GCD is 1 sec, for simplicity's sake. Let use say I do 1500 damage in one ability, then 500 damage in the next. I did 1K DPS for two seconds, but I did not do 1k damage every second. DPS is average damage over time, the "steadiness" of that damage is not implicated at all. You're right. But as you said, DPS is an average, and saying 1k DPS is implying 1000 damage in one second, whether that is the truth of the numbers or not, that is the implication. Over the span of those two seconds, you did 2k damage, which as an average, is 1k a second. Obviously because of the nature of the abilities you used, that's not the actual damage ouput, but when you average it out, it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardentmogui Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Bubble? *** am I doing in star wars.... I'm so confused... I think I'm in the wrong game... /shield /hearth Later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalFinality Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) You're right. But as you said, DPS is an average, and saying 1k DPS is implying 1000 damage in one second, whether that is the truth of the numbers or not, that is the implication. Over the span of those two seconds, you did 2k damage, which as an average, is 1k a second. Obviously because of the nature of the abilities you used, that's not the actual damage ouput, but when you average it out, it is. We know what the definition of dps is. What is your point, exactly? Did you ever have one? Edited February 24, 2012 by EternalFinality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetraCleric Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 You aren't the first Sorc to pretend they are easily defeated and you won't be the last. First off, I don't play a healing sorc anymore. Second off, I'm not really easily defeated. But I attribute that to the amazing lack of skill/awareness that most people on my server possess. Most people would rather admit the problem lies elsewhere than look at their own gameplay to see what they can change to maximize their effectiveness. You are one of those players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalFinality Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) First off, I don't play a healing sorc anymore. Hybrid dps now then? Facerolling with aoe knockback root? Edited February 24, 2012 by EternalFinality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetraCleric Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 We know what the definition of dps is. What is your point, exactly? Did you ever have one? Why are you responding to a conversation that has nothing to do with you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalFinality Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Why are you responding to a conversation that has nothing to do with you? The same could be said to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetraCleric Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Hybrid dps now then? Facerolling with aoe knockback root? Nope, I play a 31 madness build because having a root as a separate ability is infinitely better than relying on a melee range knockback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetraCleric Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 The same could be said to you. You are a fantastic poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalFinality Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) Nope, I play a 31 madness build because having a root as a separate ability is infinitely better than relying on a melee range knockback. Oh, so you're a bad Sorc with a bad spec. It's starting to make sense now. That's why you think Sentinels can kill you easily. Edited February 24, 2012 by EternalFinality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetraCleric Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Oh, so you're a bad Sorc with a bad spec. It's starting to make sense now. Yea dude, 50-0 games with 400k damage makes me sooooo bad. Sorry I don't play a gimmick spec, and can still dominate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acyu Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) I'd like you to provide a video of someone killing a geared healing Sorc who doesn't suck in a 1v1 situation. Any class. Go ahead. there was that battlemaster operative video... completely owned a battlemaster healing sorcerer. starts around 1:00. That sorcerer could've perhaps had another bubble, but that's about it. Force speed? probably used that to get to the node to prevent the cap to begin with. Of course you're going to say, BUT THE SORCERER DIDN'T HAVE ALL HIS CDs! Well the operative was out of stealth to start the fight... so... edit: the bubble lasted for a whole GCD. it was amazing. Edited February 24, 2012 by Acyu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalFinality Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Yea dude, 50-0 games with 400k damage makes me sooooo bad. Sorry I don't play a gimmick spec, and can still dominate. And here comes the unsubstantiated "I top warzone charts" claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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