Vengeful_Deity Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 The worst thing the Devs did was include the number of players in your zone right there on the standard UI. I've heard people complain that there was only 10 People on Hoth. If you went to a similar leveling zone in WoW you'd be lucky to find 10 players during prime time. I've played on two servers so far and on both Rep Fleet have had ~140 people, vast majority of these are lvl 50 because most people that are leveling are out on the planets. Frankly I don't know how many people were in Stormwind when I was playing in Cata because the /who searches were capped at what...40? 50? The big question is how easily/quickly can I get into a group to play the game. PvP queues are pretty fast, the longest I've waited is 10 minutes (I'm sure we'll get some sob stories). I've never felt like I couldn't get a group for HMs when I wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterData Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 this game is pretty dead and most of the ppl are leaving it, the only ppl that don't agree with this is the fanboys, nuff said this game is over Try playing on a server with a population Chances are your whole server moved to Canderous Ordo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kourage Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 6pm EST, East server 111 Imperials online 38 are lv 50 8 are on Ilum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriscoFrez Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 The worst thing the Devs did was include the number of players in your zone right there on the standard UI. I've heard people complain that there was only 10 People on Hoth. If you went to a similar leveling zone in WoW you'd be lucky to find 10 players during prime time. I've played on two servers so far and on both Rep Fleet have had ~140 people, vast majority of these are lvl 50 because most people that are leveling are out on the planets. Frankly I don't know how many people were in Stormwind when I was playing in Cata because the /who searches were capped at what...40? 50? The big question is how easily/quickly can I get into a group to play the game. PvP queues are pretty fast, the longest I've waited is 10 minutes (I'm sure we'll get some sob stories). I've never felt like I couldn't get a group for HMs when I wanted. i have to disagree with you, the thing is that the genreal chat in wow was waaaay more active than it is in swtor, i mean rember crossroads? the genral chatt had alot of ppl talking, u don't see that in this game genreal is dead in my server Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vengeful_Deity Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Well I guess 1.7 million fanboys will have enough to keep the game going. Haha! I got into a little kerfuffle with the guy at http://www.mmodata.net/ about his truely retarded downgrading of SWTOR to 1.2 Million subs based on pretty much nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vengeful_Deity Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 i have to disagree with you, the thing is that the genreal chat in wow was waaaay more active than it is in swtor, i mean rember crossroads? the genral chatt had alot of ppl talking, u don't see that in this game genreal is dead in my server If you consider massive ammounts of /general trolling because people aren't playing the game as "active" then yeah I'll agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touchbass Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) Interesting ... the numbers came in and the game has lost subs since the launch. They had 1.7m at the end of January and they ended up with almost 1.7 million by the end of February. Good for the game, I really thought it was going to be around 1.35k million. However I was correct in the notion of no way in hell the game has hit 2 million subs. Well even with the Asian launch it won't bring more active players to N.A servers and they are still going to feel empty on a ton of them outside of peak times. I wish Bioware would do something. Edited March 8, 2012 by Touchbass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FriscoFrez Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Try playing on a server with a population Chances are your whole server moved to Canderous Ordo. i will check out that server couse artho city is dead imo, I'm on my third toon here and the server is empty some times is just me on some planets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebaron Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Well I guess 1.7 million fanboys will have enough to keep the game going. Very interesting. Must say, I am quite surprised. My 800k guess was way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebaron Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I think this is the original source of the current 1.7 million sub figure http://venturebeat.com/2012/03/08/electronic-arts-reveals-new-mass-effect-3-and-star-wars-mmo-numbers/ Wish I had the exact quote. Could he STILL be using figures from that first month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goretzu Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) I think this is the original source of the current 1.7 million sub figure http://venturebeat.com/2012/03/08/electronic-arts-reveals-new-mass-effect-3-and-star-wars-mmo-numbers/ Wish I had the exact quote. Could he STILL be using figures from that first month? If they still have 1.7 million active subs (and aren't using older figures), then there are a LOT of people still subbing but not playing. Just from personal experience of the 20ish people that came to SWTOR with me, only 3-4 are still playing regularly (the reasons given by the people that quit are all the ones you see here time and again), maybe that loss is a freak occurrence, but I can't imagine the retention of that group is 80+% off the average. Edited March 8, 2012 by Goretzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naymeheer Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 What kind of charts are you going to find that are up to date? Subscriptions are bought 1 month, 3month, 6months and a year at a time or whatever. Subscription #s are not indicative of the fact that I don't see one word in RED next to server population when I log in. I play on Anchorhead, Sith. Imp Fleet is 80 right now, 5:42 on a Thursday. Not Normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derfmiolleh Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) Maybe the kind of customer that enjoys SWtOR is different from what some are used to seeing. I for one don't live in this game but I love it and will continue to sub and play. I play on weekends mostly and I never have a hard time with group content. Friday and Saturday Ajunta Pall is healthy. Just because everyone isn't playing 24/7 doesn't mean the game isn't successfull or that the servers are dead. Edited March 8, 2012 by Derfmiolleh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goretzu Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Maybe the kind of customer that enjoys SWtOR is different from what some are used to seeing. I for one don't live in this game but I love it and will continue to sub and play. I play on weekends mostly and I never have a hard time with group content. Friday and Saturday Ajunta Pall is healthy. Just because everyone isn't playing 24/7 doesn't mean the game isn't successfull or that the servers are dead. Assuming the figures are correct. Either people that are subbing, but not playing much/at all, will stop subbing. Or people that are subbing, but not playing much/at all, will keep doing so. If it's the latter then EA have found MMO cold fusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumpiduke Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) What kind of charts are you going to find that are up to date? Subscriptions are bought 1 month, 3month, 6months and a year at a time or whatever. Subscription #s are not indicative of the fact that I don't see one word in RED next to server population when I log in. I play on Anchorhead, Sith. Imp Fleet is 80 right now, 5:42 on a Thursday. Not Normal. You make the assumption that just because someone is subscribed that they're going to log in and play. I can bet you that a number of people are just simply sitting on their subscription in case they get the urge to play until 1.2 comes out. I'm one of those people. I've been playing very sparingly since hitting 50, but I'm not going to cancel my subscription because I still get the urge to play from time to time. Furthermore, $15/month is a small price for me to pay, even if I only play 15 hours a month. It is money well spent on a game that I feel is going to become something great over time. I'm glad to contribute and support something that I believe in. Edited March 8, 2012 by Dumpiduke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touchbass Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Assuming the figures are correct. Either people that are subbing, but not playing much/at all, will stop subbing. Or people that are subbing, but not playing much/at all, will keep doing so. If it's the latter then EA have found MMO cold fusion. With the amount of sales pushing towards 2.5 million we are seeing the same rentention rate as other MMORPG's. The reason why this one is different is this game is loaded pre-game so people have tons of stuff to do while leveling if it's there cup of tea. I'm sure in a few more months we'll see sub <50 retention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khryn Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 Server population is dropping. Drastically. There was only 180 people on Republic Fleet Saturday night on Jung Ma. Oh lord. The sky is falling. Oh wait.. Mass Effect 3 came out. Whoa. Mind blown. People that like Biowaregames *might* be playing this also. Nah. That's logical to assume that people wouldn't be constantly logged in 24/7, so the population must be dropping. F2P BY END OF WEEK!!!!11111!OMG THE GAME IS DEAD NO ONE PLAYS ANYMOAR!!111!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackZoback Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Assuming the figures are correct. Either people that are subbing, but not playing much/at all, will stop subbing. Or people that are subbing, but not playing much/at all, will keep doing so. If it's the latter then EA have found MMO cold fusion. If you take a look at server population trends in MMOs like this: http://www.warcraftrealms.com/weeklyfactionactivity.php?serverid=-1 You'll see that server population goes up and and down in conjuncture with patch releases, and this is very common in most MMOs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pekish Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 or maybe people play a game like... a game and not like a job... so they play a couple of hours a day spread out in different timezone and such... you know not everybody waste 8 hour of the day on a videogame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParMizaN Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) The Shadow Runner, EU, barely has enough people online for a single WZ, except between about 4pm and 10pm. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/parmizan/b9b7462f.jpg This is really infuriating. Virtually every guild on the server is losing people quickly, and most are struggling to get enough people together for even 8 man raids. My guild had previously cleared nightmare content, and at one point had enough active people to run a 16 man and an 8 man simultaneously... we were turning down applications regularly. Now there are so few players that the remaining guilds are merging or biting the bullet and transfering. This needs to change. I love this game, but a number of servers are DYING, and Bioware has done nothing, promised nothing, and barely even acknowledged it. I'm deeply disappointed. Edit: to put it into context, there are currently 6 people on the imperial fleet. I understand that there are prime times (but really... why is this? is it a latency issue?) but the game is essentially unplayable on this server outside the only busy hours. Edited March 9, 2012 by ParMizaN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParMizaN Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/parmizan/fefcee57.jpg Speaks for itself. Edited March 9, 2012 by ParMizaN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiaa Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) I find it more amusing that people still sit here and ACTUALLY THINK that every server has 7,000 + / - players on it. With no proof of other than word of mouth from EA, a company that lies about things from paying employees to DLC. If every server had 7,000 + players on each server... Your hub would have more than or AT LEAST 1,000 players at ANY given time. I would be able to find a GROUP for simple things like ESSELES whenever I wanted. You people make me laugh...not because you are funny but you're just so....so... Sad and pathetic. Sorry. Everyone who has dead servers has to deal with not finding groups because of these..."players". This game needs SERVER merges and the only reason they aren't doing it is because they have sheep like 70% of the people on this thread here that can't use simple LOGICAL and MATHMATICAL analysis to understand this game does NOT have 1.7 subscribers. And if it does, they sure AREN'T playing on the majority of the servers because I have NEVER, EVER seen more than 80 people on my fleet. And that was at launch. Now it,s around 30-40 and every where else has like 4 or 6 players if that. And my server was one of the FULL ones AT LAUNCH. SERVER MERGES. SERVER TRANSFERS. NEEDED. Edited March 9, 2012 by Tiaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miikke Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) I love this game, but a number of servers are DYING, and Bioware has done nothing, promised nothing, and barely even acknowledged it. I'm deeply disappointed. Says it all Edited March 9, 2012 by miikke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soldatleboss Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) i am just going to close my sub if there is no server merge before 1.2 come out. peace Edited March 9, 2012 by soldatleboss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpienne Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Kai Kan pvp server is pretty dead. Had to merge 3 republic guilds today in order to help the server out with grouping etc. While I'm sad to hear your population is not what you want it to be, I applaud you for being proactive about it and merging guilds. That takes a lot of maturity and coordination and trust. Paige Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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