HileyQuiggley Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Either a commando or a merc right here. Oh I play a Commando. An Assault Commando, hands down the better PvP spec. Want to nerf Grav Round? Nerf it, its a sitting duck. Just stop crying about it and making threads about it. I use Gunnery if I feel like doing FP's and stuff but PvP DoT's is win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yakito Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Why should you even use those "other abilties" when you have IWIN button that procs all kinds of different **** making it even better than it already is. In this case I will never roll Gunnery, because I hate classes where I only spam 1 or 2 abilities. Medic is great, I'm just going to go Assault Specialist whenever I feel like doing some damage. Seems a bit less spammy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVarrak Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 (edited) You fail to understand what I meant. No I realize this quite well, seeing as I level'd to 50 with Arsenal then switched to Bodyguard. And that player never said good results, he said decent results. What most of you don't realize is a Madness spec'd sorceror can do the exact same thing with Force Lightning. Nerfing Tracer Missile is not the answer. The answer is to rework the tree so we dont have to spam Tracer. Tracer's damage itself is unremarkable, it's average at best. Edited February 12, 2012 by Paralassa bad quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrustyDog Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 wait til you get your 31 point gunnery talent. THEN it really gets fun. Grav round grav round grav round explosive shot. NEXT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrustyDog Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 (edited) You fail to understand what I meant. Name 1 skill that has no cd and can be spammed without even having to actually bother with anything else and still get decent results. That's why I call it IWIN. Sorc lightning and sage pebbles. Edited February 12, 2012 by Paralassa bad quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noer Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 (edited) You fail to understand what I meant. Name 1 skill that has no cd and can be spammed without even having to actually bother with anything else and still get decent results. That's why I call it IWIN. It has no CD because it has cast time. So you are sitting duck while using that. Smart opponents just break LOS to avoid it. Thats why me and a lot of others use assault over this in your eyes so uber attack skill. If you think you can just stand and tank a commando you are in for a treat - that being assault or gunnery. But if you allow that to happen you got stuff o learn in pvp. Its not really that hard to take down a non- heal specced commando. Edited February 12, 2012 by Paralassa bad quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlpirate Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 If they are smart they will use Heatseeker and Railshot and you are already dead. Maybe a knockback and one unload to finish you. lol no on my vg i can smack them down consistantly. I can just not allow u to do them and without the grav round stacks the other moves dont do crap to me(shields actually work versus unload/full auto/railshot). And at that point ur useless and dead. Plain and simple, the class was designed around spaming the move. U gain def, debuffs, procs from spaming it. without the move the best thing u do is just jump in the acid/fire cause ur already dead. The guy that designed the class had to have never played games in his life and has never seen a star wars film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowasaurus Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 smart mercs go pyrotech but thats asking awful pvpers to kite so yeah, i hope they all stick to grav round spam so i can keep pillar humping them to death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turn-XGundam Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 Name 1 skill that has no cd and can be spammed without even having to actually bother with anything else and still get decent results. That's why I call it IWIN. i can spam snipe on my sniper and it has nice damage. i can also 100% crit with it every 30secs or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVarrak Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 lol no on my vg i can smack them down consistantly. I can just not allow u to do them and without the grav round stacks the other moves dont do crap to me(shields actually work versus unload/full auto/railshot). And at that point ur useless and dead. Plain and simple, the class was designed around spaming the move. U gain def, debuffs, procs from spaming it. without the move the best thing u do is just jump in the acid/fire cause ur already dead. The guy that designed the class had to have never played games in his life and has never seen a star wars film. False, no interrupt has that short of a cooldown. Back when I played Arsenal I was never locked out entirely from getting my stacks up. Matter of fact, the only characters I ever had trouble with were Sorc and Marauder. As a Bodyguard the only character I have trouble with now are 3 or more dps at once. Btw, I never said designing the tree around using TM at least 3 times wasn't flawed. I stated quite clearly that it is flawed. Point being, TM itself is far from OP. And if you lock it down consistantly as you said, why are you calling for nerfs? I smell troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlpirate Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 False, no interrupt has that short of a cooldown. Back when I played Arsenal I was never locked out entirely from getting my stacks up. Matter of fact, the only characters I ever had trouble with were Sorc and Marauder. As a Bodyguard the only character I have trouble with now are 3 or more dps at once. Btw, I never said designing the tree around using TM at least 3 times wasn't flawed. I stated quite clearly that it is flawed. Point being, TM itself is far from OP. And if you lock it down consistantly as you said, why are you calling for nerfs? I smell troll. grapple, storm, roit strike(mine is speced) and then the 2 stuns. U can time and rotate those to either lock it down or minimize how many gravs u can do. I wasnt calling for nerf, im just confirming that the class is idiot proof and suggesting that it needs a redesign from the ground up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthVarrak Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 grapple, storm, roit strike(mine is speced) and then the 2 stuns. U can time and rotate those to either lock it down or minimize how many gravs u can do. I wasnt calling for nerf, im just confirming that the class is idiot proof and suggesting that it needs a redesign from the ground up. IF you can lock it down as you say (never been done to me, so again I'm gonna call doubtful) then it is by definition NOT idiot proof. I agree that Arsenal needs a redesign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlpirate Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 IF you can lock it down as you say (never been done to me, so again I'm gonna call doubtful) then it is by definition NOT idiot proof. I agree that Arsenal needs a redesign. U dont know how many games i have played in where people just totally ignore me and let me spam and the same thing happens with my commando friend at 50. Commando/merc are trash but most people that play this game suffer from tunnel vision so i can hang back and missle everyone to death. This is why it hasnt happen to u. Like i said, vg has the tools to make commando/mercs miserable, again i have grapple/storm/2 stuns/roit strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hallucigenocide Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 U dont know how many games i have played in where people just totally ignore me and let me spam and the same thing happens with my commando friend at 50. Commando/merc are trash but most people that play this game suffer from tunnel vision so i can hang back and missle everyone to death. This is why it hasnt happen to u. Like i said, vg has the tools to make commando/mercs miserable, again i have grapple/storm/2 stuns/roit strike. this pretty much sums it up... i bet most people whining dont even know what 80% of their own abilities actually do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonerjohn Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 every other skill has 15 sec cd, what else can you use Charged bolts, charged bolts, charged bolts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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