Turando Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) So, they other night, my guild easily cleared (like 2 wipes) normal mode EV. We've done this now two weeks in a row. After, we decided to check out hardmode. Within a few seconds we wiped while taking down the first tower. I mean a megawipe. The raid leadership decided it was because our gear was inadequate, and didn't make another attempt. My question, is hardmode really that much of a gear check? Or is there a completely different strategy we should be using in hardmode? Is it necessary to farm normal mode ops for weeks before eveni attempting hardmode? Edited February 8, 2012 by Turando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sicae Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 If you wiped while taking first tower its because people werent doing their job, and nothing about gear. If you can take down SOA and Baragga on normal you will kill first four in EV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIazeOfGlory Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 My guild did 1 week of normal before going into hard mode for EV. It is not THAT much of a gear check. I was wearing mostly 126 gear when I did the hard mode. Also the turrets at the start can be quite painful and needs to be handled properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layotees Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Your leaders sound soft in the head. How are you going to make decisions like that after one attempt? HM EV is not that much of a gear check. If you can kill normal Soa you can kill 4/5 HM EV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strikeviperMKII Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) HM Ev is not a gear check. NiM, is however. The towers aren't too much of a problem. Usually you only die to them if you pull too soon (damn their aggro range), or your deeps isn't paying attention and runs in late (even then, it shouldn't be a problem. On NiM, they only have 70k or something. They don't take long to burn down. The gear check is usually in Soa, phase 2 and 3. If you enrage (5 relics) in phase three, then you don't have enough deeps (though, if you get that far, you should have been able to kill him before enrage, at least on HM). That could be a gear check or a deeps problem depending on how people play. Edited February 8, 2012 by strikeviperMKII Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turando Posted February 8, 2012 Author Share Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) Thanks folks, I had a similar thought. Wiping and learning isn't a problem for me, I remember wiping 17 times straight on a raid boss in that-other-game. However, I didn't want to openly question raid leadership and cause drama so early in the progression. Edited February 9, 2012 by Turando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hojdar Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 THe towers can be supringly painful for someone who isnt prepared, just have one tank aggro 1 tower (tankable with repeated taunt), and the other tank aggro the other while the dps takes care of the adds. We did it with one tank and a ranged dps tanking the first tower we killed while the tank aggroed the other tower. The point is not to let both towers run amok or to let them hit the same target, because that's when it hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drusillus Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I have seen the towered bugged in Hard Mode 8 man. Sometimes when we first zone in for the week, the towers, all the power calls are red/active and there is already a group of mobs spawned in the middle of the area. Other times, the power cells are yellow and no mobs. You may have just gotten what I call a Pre-agrro setting. We focus dps on the right power cells/turret, then the left while the tank(s) ick up the adds for aoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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