VanorDM Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 You're just wasting your own time. Isn't it my time to waste? If I'd rather waste my time then team up with some random person who may cause my whole play session to be ruined because of the way they act before and after we finish what we're doing... Then how does it hurt you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsonstone Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 You get less loot/credits by grouping up and personally I hate people who just throw out invites without speaking to you first. I generally like to quest alone. I'll help out a person if they ask me, or a guildie, but I prefer to solo it. I have preferred that in every mmo I've played for various reasons. I turn down blind invites on the spot. Heck, I might turn it down if you ask, but I will always tell you why. Maybe I've got to log soon, or I am ust feeling like doing it alone. I've even told other players I would probably slow them down and I don't wanna be a hindrance. That being said I was doing the Nar Shadda bonus series last week and during my missions I kept running into the same gunslinger. Obviously he's doing the same missions but we stayed out of each others way. Finally we ended up turning in one part of the series missions at the same time and he whispered "Hey, we're doing the same mission. Want to team up to finish them?" so I did. We had a good run, and thankfully this guy wasn't a jerk that wanted LOOT! LOOT! LOOT! Ended up friending the guy. But I would not have teamed if he didn't ask first. On the few times I've wanted to team up with others doing the same quests I've always asked them first. I detest blind invites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fujah Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 You've obviously never done the dailies either. 3-5mins per group to respawn. You need 5 loot items. Your group may not even drop the item. So you are looking at 5-7 respawns to finish the quest. OR You could be grouped with me and get 300% more chances at looting your needed items, because you get credit for anything I kill as well. You're just wasting your own time. It also took me along time to get to 50. Playing an MMO is not about speed for me. I have also done heroic 4's solo even though it took longer. I enjoy it, I don't mind. And guess what? I'm having fun too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthBloodloss Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 All that is what matters to YOU. If none of that matters to THEM, and they would prefer to solo at that given time, for ANY reason, then they are not wasting their time to them. Sorry, just because something matters to you doesn't mean it matters to someone else. You can be upset that what matters to you doesn't matter to them, but that doesn't magically make it matter to them. No one is upset. Im trying to open people's eyes. My BH is about as uber as you can get. You aren't going to steal any mobs from me. Im the one doing all the killing. Im getting all the loot. Just trying to let you know that you'll save your own time by piggybacking off me. You can decline, doesn't hurt my feelings if you like standing around until im done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangelsaske Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I always whisper before inviting. And I usually only do it when I know me and the other person are getting close to an end-phase elite mob. I suck having to compete for it, having to wait for a respawn, or making the other guy wait for a respawn. For me, it usually goes something like this: I whisper, "Are you going after that elite guy?" If no answer at all, then I guess I'm free to run forward and tag the mob. If he answers "No," then I'm also free to go ahead and tag the mob. If he answers "yes," then I say, "Me, too. Want to group?" The next stage in that is either him responding by sending me an invite which I accept, or him responding with a "yes," in which case I'm free to invite him. This is what makes it worth while grouping with some one. It provides some interaction, socialisation and satisfaction. It also rules out afk's or people who you forgot where on your ignore list. Now thats win = win in my book. But hey thats just how I play my game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grecanis Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 The only thing I miss from WoW is the "It's polite to speak to someone before inviting them to a group" tool tip on the loading screens.... the good ol' days eh? It's there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmbuyer Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 It's quicker just to ask the question by sending out the invite. The invite is the question. The only time one needs to actually type it out, is when it's not obvious why the invite is being sent. If we're both killing the same mobs; There is no need to whisper. Either you keep deliberately missing the point, or you're just trolling. It's not the blind invite itself that people dislike. It's all the inevitable followup behavior that comes afterwards: going afk to be carried, looting chests, not actually helping in the quest, etc. Because no matter what the forum preachers claim, in practice there's an extremely strong correlation between "random person sending blind invite" and "random person being a d*ckwad". So people tend to sidestep the whole mess and just refuse the invites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crica Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Im trying to open people's eyes. And they are responding with "no ty, I am enjoying soloing right now, have a nice day". Case closed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthBloodloss Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) And they are responding with "no ty, I am enjoying soloing right now, have a nice day". Case closed? No they are responding with: No ty, Id rather stand here solo and do nothing while you kill all the mobs. I'll just wait until you're done and then repeat what you just did. have a nice day become more uber while I stand here like a noob The whole point is: There is nothing else for you to do. I am pwning that area, and you joining me allows you to also make progress, instead of only allowing me to make progress. Its a daily quest. One that people do over and over. There is no RP factor involved. Its for daily commendations and credits. Edited February 7, 2012 by DarthBloodloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grecanis Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 It's not the blind invite itself that people dislike. It's all the inevitable followup behavior that comes afterwards: going afk to be carried, looting chests, not actually helping in the quest, etc. Because no matter what the forum preachers claim, in practice there's an extremely strong correlation between "random person sending blind invite" and "random person being a d*ckwad". So people tend to sidestep the whole mess and just refuse the invites. This ^ If you can't take the time to whisper then you are already too impatient for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SentinelDranoel Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I typically invite when they're out of combat. But I'm not going to whisper them first when it's blatantly obvious why I'm sending out the invite. And I don't spam anything. i whisper them first, only out of respect and ot be courteous. You know, you say hellpo to a woman first and introduce yourself. You don't just walk up to her and say "come with me, we both want the same thing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanorDM Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Its a daily quest. One that people do over and over. There is no RP factor involved. Its for daily commendations and credits. Do you have a lot of people refusing your invite in that situation? To me that sounds a bit like when you have people sitting there waiting for a bonus quest boss to respawn. In that case most people seem generally willing to group up without much interaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthBloodloss Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 This ^ If you can't take the time to whisper then you are already too impatient for me. What you guys are talking about makes sense at the low to mid levels. When you are in a high level area where you specifically need to loot quest items, this doesn't apply. The *******s are still in the lower level areas, not doing quests for uber items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangelsaske Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) No they are responding with: No ty, Id rather stand here solo and do nothing while you kill all the mobs. I'll just wait until you're done and then repeat what you just did. have a nice day become more uber while I stand here like a noob You were being so polite and the debate was quite nice but this is just steaming elitist midden. It's not about the credits or exp, it's all about the player interaction. It's the "hey mate, look at me I just took 2 seconds to say hi and would you like to spend a few mins completing these quests?" Even just giving the quest name and the word "group" works sometimes in a /w. It's crude but atleast he tried bless his cotton socks. Edited February 7, 2012 by Archangelsaske Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vydor_HC Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 i whisper them first, only out of respect and ot be courteous. You know, you say hellpo to a woman first and introduce yourself. You don't just walk up to her and say "come with me, we both want the same thing." hehhe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcaptainpants Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 If you can't take the time to whisper then you are already too impatient for me. Yep. A thousand times yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fujah Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) No they are responding with: No ty, Id rather stand here solo and do nothing while you kill all the mobs. I'll just wait until you're done and then repeat what you just did. have a nice day become more uber while I stand here like a noob The whole point is: There is nothing else for you to do. I am pwning that area, and you joining me allows you to also make progress, instead of only allowing me to make progress. Its a daily quest. One that people do over and over. There is no RP factor involved. Its for daily commendations and credits. No. The point is you want to be the hero with your uber gear while we sit in the corner while you kill stuff and we say thank you and name our kids after you. Lol. It might be fun for you but I don't see the fun I get from grouping with you.. Edited February 7, 2012 by Fujah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthBloodloss Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Do you have a lot of people refusing your invite in that situation? To me that sounds a bit like when you have people sitting there waiting for a bonus quest boss to respawn. In that case most people seem generally willing to group up without much interaction. No one so far has rejected an invite. But I only send them out when the small area is super crowded. When it is crowded, people are more than willing to team up. If there are 7 people fighting over the items, its gonna take everyone forever. But if its 4 vs 1 vs 1 vs 1, guess whos gonna finish the fastest. And no conversation is needed because everyone is already on the same apge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZomgAChicken Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 No I will not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tickdoff-Tank Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 If I get a blind invite I always refuse. I then place that person on my ignore list. Solves all my problems. I don't want to group with you. If I wanted to then I would send you a tell. But I won't send you a tell because I don't know you, and I don't want to know you. I don't want your help and I don't want to help you. If I wanted to group with someone then I would respond to a LFG in general chat, or I would post my own LFG in chat. I would rather sit and do nothing while you finish doing whatever it is you are doing, then I can go back to doing what I was doing. I do not get upset when people ask me to join with them, I respond to polite tells with matching politeness. I respond to rudeness with the ignore list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fujah Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 If I get a blind invite I always refuse. I then place that person on my ignore list. Solves all my problems. I don't want to group with you. If I wanted to then I would send you a tell. But I won't send you a tell because I don't know you, and I don't want to know you. I don't want your help and I don't want to help you. If I wanted to group with someone then I would respond to a LFG in general chat, or I would post my own LFG in chat. I would rather sit and do nothing while you finish doing whatever it is you are doing, then I can go back to doing what I was doing. I do not get upset when people ask me to join with them, I respond to polite tells with matching politeness. I respond to rudeness with the ignore list. Nice. He shoots, he SCORES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balrizangor Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I don't understand why Bioware didn't have open groups, like Warhammer Online does, one of WAR's genuine innovations. they do, you have to change the group/ops setting to Public, by default it is not on, which is good, I wouldn't want random player to just be able to jump into a group with me =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthBloodloss Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 You were being so polite and the debate was quite nice but this is just steaming elitist midden. It's not about the credits or exp, it's all about the player interaction. It's the "hey mate, look at me I just took 2 seconds to say hi and would you like to spend a few mins completing these quests?" Even just giving the quest name and the word "group" works sometimes in a /w. It's crude but atleast he tried bless his cotton socks. Ok then I apologize if it came off as impolite. I guess Ive thoroughly voiced my opinion in this matter. Good luck out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZomgAChicken Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 If I get a blind invite I always refuse. I then place that person on my ignore list. Solves all my problems. I don't want to group with you. If I wanted to then I would send you a tell. But I won't send you a tell because I don't know you, and I don't want to know you. I don't want your help and I don't want to help you. If I wanted to group with someone then I would respond to a LFG in general chat, or I would post my own LFG in chat. I would rather sit and do nothing while you finish doing whatever it is you are doing, then I can go back to doing what I was doing. I do not get upset when people ask me to join with them, I respond to polite tells with matching politeness. I respond to rudeness with the ignore list. I guess that ticks you off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archangelsaske Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Ok then I apologize if it came off as impolite. I guess Ive thoroughly voiced my opinion in this matter. Good luck out there. It's ok bud, MMO's would be pretty poor if we didn't all have strong opinions to have fun with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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