Talon_Starfire Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 I was wondering if anybody knows a good build for maximising Rail Shot? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshyHex Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301hMZMsrro0cZfhrbzh.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon_Starfire Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 (edited) Is that better than the (1/22/18) because I'm considering it. Thanks Edited February 5, 2012 by Talon_Starfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegs Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Neither of those maximize rail shot. If you want to have the biggest rail shot crits, use this build: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301hMhZMcZfhMbdGhMc.1 Higher overall dps as well than either of those builds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Beastwood Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Neither of those maximize rail shot. If you want to have the biggest rail shot crits, use this build: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301hMhZMcZfhMbdGhMc.1 Higher overall dps as well than either of those builds This is definetly the higher Railshot build but with all those points in Pyrotech you might well then TD and an extra 3% critcal for tech attacks. And just go for the 4/6/31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon_Starfire Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 This is definetly the higher Railshot build but with all those points in Pyrotech you might well then TD and an extra 3% critcal for tech attacks. And just go for the 4/6/31 Would you post the 4/6/31 please? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshyHex Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 sorry i post the wrong build i was in a hurry . that the build I'm using now and copy the wrong link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon_Starfire Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 I know it's at high level but is Carbonize combined with Flame Sweep better than maximising Rail Shot? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegs Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 This is definetly the higher Railshot build but with all those points in Pyrotech you might well then TD and an extra 3% critcal for tech attacks. And just go for the 4/6/31 I like using 31 pyrotech, but it usually involves dropping the 9% aim bonus. And without that, you're not maximizing railshot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Beastwood Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Would you post the 4/6/31 please? Thanks http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301bMZMsZfhMrzGGMs.1 Yeah well it certainly doesn't max railshot, and while it is one of the strongest attacks there is no need to forget other high DPS abilities like Thermal Detonator. The 9% boost is aim is great but it won't be able to match with TD which also benefits from the 30+% crit damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TirjacShiki Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Although railshot is a very hard hitting attack and pyros do use it all the time, you cannot ignore your other great abilities like the poster above mentioned. Rail shot is one of the few ranged abilities we have, which means it goes up against the targets defense, so in order to fully maximize rail shot, you lose a lot in our tech abilities that do not go against the targets defense for the most part. It's somewhat complicated but the 4/6/31 build is hands down the best build for max damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon_Starfire Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301bMZMsZfhMrzGGMs.1 Yeah well it certainly doesn't max railshot, and while it is one of the strongest attacks there is no need to forget other high DPS abilities like Thermal Detonator. The 9% boost is aim is great but it won't be able to match with TD which also benefits from the 30+% crit damage.Looks like a good build,Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon_Starfire Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301bMZMsZfhMrzGGMs.1 Yeah well it certainly doesn't max railshot, and while it is one of the strongest attacks there is no need to forget other high DPS abilities like Thermal Detonator. The 9% boost is aim is great but it won't be able to match with TD which also benefits from the 30+% crit damage.Does that spec for Flame Sweep as well as TD? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Beastwood Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Flame Sweep does very little and is just a generic AoE attack for the 4/6/31 build. I rarely use it as it causes too much heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon_Starfire Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 Flame Sweep does very little and is just a generic AoE attack for the 4/6/31 build. I rarely use it as it causes too much heat. Even with Carbonize? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renamesk Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Neither of those maximize rail shot. If you want to have the biggest rail shot crits, use this build: http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301hMhZMcZfhMbdGhMc.1 Higher overall dps as well than either of those builds My build is exactly the same except 1 out of burnout and put that into prototype cylinders and put the vent heat cd points into the heat venting whenever u get stunned/rooted. Either way, our builds maximize rail shot equally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegs Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 My build is exactly the same except 1 out of burnout and put that into prototype cylinders and put the vent heat cd points into the heat venting whenever u get stunned/rooted. Either way, our builds maximize rail shot equally I actually do the same, I just made that build quickly to pick up all the talents that affect railshot. And to address those above discussing how TD is a higher dps choice than the aim: there's really no way to tell without a combat log. It's possible TD is the highest dps route, but it's also possible that the aim is a better choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Beastwood Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I actually do the same, I just made that build quickly to pick up all the talents that affect railshot. And to address those above discussing how TD is a higher dps choice than the aim: there's really no way to tell without a combat log. It's possible TD is the highest dps route, but it's also possible that the aim is a better choice. The aim boosts is more consistent I guess but it is not gonna give a non railshot ability that often hits for the same as RS. It is mainly because of the firebug trait higher crit chance (6+%). Explosive Dart won't hitting that high at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabbb Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 IMO aim is the better choice. You sacrifice some range for a definite dmg increase. There's also an improvement to heat since TD doesn't proc RS so it's a bit of a heat hog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umpire Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 9% aim = consistent damage TD = burst damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon_Starfire Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 My build is exactly the same except 1 out of burnout and put that into prototype cylinders and put the vent heat cd points into the heat venting whenever u get stunned/rooted. Either way, our builds maximize rail shot equally I looked at the trees and couldn't find the venting when stunned/rooted talent would you post the build please? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon_Starfire Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) My build is exactly the same except 1 out of burnout and put that into prototype cylinders and put the vent heat cd points into the heat venting whenever u get stunned/rooted. Either way, our builds maximize rail shot equally Is this the spec you use? Edited February 6, 2012 by Talon_Starfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Beastwood Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Well for PVE the builds without TD are probably better but in PVP which is just about burst damage TD wins hands down. I'd rarely had any heat issues unless Railshot doesn't proc from like 5 flame bursts in a row. Pyrotech tree lets you use Vent heat more often which is great to prevent overheating. Thermal sensor override is also good for sticking a free IM on targets. And there no reason not to use Rapid shots epecially if you manage to get melee users out of the 10m range. And of course reaching 70+ heat is fine if you actually win the fight. There is no point trying to stick strictly below 40 if you're gonna get killed because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon_Starfire Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#301bMZMsZfhMrzGGMs.1 Yeah well it certainly doesn't max railshot, and while it is one of the strongest attacks there is no need to forget other high DPS abilities like Thermal Detonator. The 9% boost is aim is great but it won't be able to match with TD which also benefits from the 30+% crit damage.Would the build be as effective if I took the points out of Degauss and put it in Infrared Sensors so this. Thanks Edited February 6, 2012 by Talon_Starfire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Would the build be as effective if I took the points out of Degauss and put it in Infrared Sensors so this. Thanks Yes. I definitely recommend Infrared Sensors. That talent will save your life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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