Ravaran Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I agree, this should be fixed, but in light of everything else wrong with the game right now..it should not be a priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 free body diagram....or it didnt happen. sorry, physics joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahAran Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Yes, and next up, fixing Force Push's violation of Newton's third law! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foodicus Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 This and chat bubbles are two major fixes I would love to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfeisberg Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 If Jim Carey's character from Liar Liar was in this thread he would say this "Stop jumping in elevators, a--hole!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theborch Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 If Jim Carey's character from Liar Liar was in this thread he would say this "Stop jumping in elevators, a--hole!" This. If you know it's problem stop doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restepor Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I don't think physics have ever applied in a MMO. How about being able to run through people? That's physically impossible to. I would like them to do away with the damage for hitting the roof though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hinscher Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I love jumping on a lift, its fun as hell seeing you slowly fall back down. Hae not yet been on one that i have died yet. though have died enough times thinking I could jump on th eelevator that was so far down already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedlosson Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 If Jim Carey's character from Liar Liar was in this thread he would say this "Stop jumping in elevators, a--hole!" This is 100% true. You know it is broken and yet you still jump... that is just insane by the definition... "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Gao_Gao Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 another thing, the force isn't real guys. i have a phd in physics and i can assure you that there is no force, no "ether" permeating throughout our reality. another thing: lasers, in the fashion displayed in the game, are impossible. sorry bioware, get real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drudenfusz Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Ummm, It's A Game!!!! Funny thing is that he just mentions that BioWare ignores realism, but fails to see that the Star Wars IP is full of ignoring how actual physics work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackardin Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Newton's First Law: Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of motion unless an external force is applied to it. This is a physical law, and Bioware has violated it in the most horrific way. Here is a test: go to a lift in game getting ready to move down, once it starts moving jump up and see what happens. You stay in the same place and actually move up from the point of the jump while the elevator falls out beneath you. This has cost me many a repair bill! IT DOES NOT WORK THIS WAY!!! When your in an elevator in real life and jump up you dont suddenly smash against the roof. If your in a plane traveling at 500 mph and you jump in the aisle do you wind up smashing out the tail of the plane? NO! This is because of Newton's first law. The motion you are in because of the vehicle you are travelling in does not suddenly disappear because a small vector of force goes in the other direction. The only way Bioware's version of physics could possibly work is if when we jump we some how convert into a light wave travelling at C. Really, needing to appeal to special relativity and magical mass energy conversations to RETCON this horrible physics is just absurd. I demand a fix. LOL, OP. "hey doc, it hurts when I do this". Doc: Don't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebbikenezer Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Newton's First Law: Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of motion unless an external force is applied to it. This is a physical law, and Bioware has violated it in the most horrific way. Here is a test: go to a lift in game getting ready to move down, once it starts moving jump up and see what happens. You stay in the same place and actually move up from the point of the jump while the elevator falls out beneath you. This has cost me many a repair bill! IT DOES NOT WORK THIS WAY!!! When your in an elevator in real life and jump up you dont suddenly smash against the roof. If your in a plane traveling at 500 mph and you jump in the aisle do you wind up smashing out the tail of the plane? NO! This is because of Newton's first law. The motion you are in because of the vehicle you are travelling in does not suddenly disappear because a small vector of force goes in the other direction. The only way Bioware's version of physics could possibly work is if when we jump we some how convert into a light wave travelling at C. Really, needing to appeal to special relativity and magical mass energy conversations to RETCON this horrible physics is just absurd. I demand a fix. I uhhhh, pointed out the part I take issue with. I agree with your take on physics and such, but you're pointing out a flaw in a game about a make believe galaxy where there is hyperspace travel, the "Force", lightspeed hyperdrives, dozens of sentient races.... whose physics are not "like real life"? Neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felioats Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I would really like to see a fix for this. Jumping while on an elevator should not be punishable by death. And to OP: I thought falling damage deaths did not damage durability...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theborch Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I would really like to see a fix for this. Jumping while on an elevator should not be punishable by death. And to OP: I thought falling damage deaths did not damage durability...? But why are you jumping on the elevator in the first place? It is probably a bug but there is not one time where jumping up and down on an elevator is required. Therefore, you know there is a problem stop doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrys Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 But you're down with lightsabers and sounds in space? I can't find the maneuvering thrusters on my spaceship either, and darn I can come about quickly almost like I have ailerons in air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surakis Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Newton's First Law: Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of motion unless an external force is applied to it. This is a physical law, and Bioware has violated it in the most horrific way. Here is a test: go to a lift in game getting ready to move down, once it starts moving jump up and see what happens. You stay in the same place and actually move up from the point of the jump while the elevator falls out beneath you. This has cost me many a repair bill! IT DOES NOT WORK THIS WAY!!! When your in an elevator in real life and jump up you dont suddenly smash against the roof. If your in a plane traveling at 500 mph and you jump in the aisle do you wind up smashing out the tail of the plane? NO! This is because of Newton's first law. The motion you are in because of the vehicle you are travelling in does not suddenly disappear because a small vector of force goes in the other direction. The only way Bioware's version of physics could possibly work is if when we jump we some how convert into a light wave travelling at C. Really, needing to appeal to special relativity and magical mass energy conversations to RETCON this horrible physics is just absurd. I demand a fix. The Force called. It says Newton is a loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goretzu Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 The outer frame is irrelevant. It has no bearing on what happens to the actor. If you jump on flat ground and don't get hurt, then you will not get hurt in the elevator either. (Again, barring terminal velocity interaction) Hell, if we follow the path you're going down, why aren't your feet knocked out from under you every time you jump on flat ground? Have you ever tried jumping on a treadmill? The earth is moving like 1000 mph, it would be almost impossible! That's essentially what you're advocating here, and it's patently ridiculous. Actually he probably has a point regarding in game "physics", the way you jump in game isn't like a human jumping IRL it's more like a human wearing a jet pack (watch how jumping actually works in TOR). If you turned a jet pack on in a downward moving roofless elevator and then turned it off after a few seconds you'd certainly hurt yourself in the fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kijthae Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Newton's First Law: Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of motion unless an external force is applied to it. This is a physical law, and Bioware has violated it in the most horrific way. Here is a test: go to a lift in game getting ready to move down, once it starts moving jump up and see what happens. You stay in the same place and actually move up from the point of the jump while the elevator falls out beneath you. This has cost me many a repair bill! IT DOES NOT WORK THIS WAY!!! When your in an elevator in real life and jump up you dont suddenly smash against the roof. If your in a plane traveling at 500 mph and you jump in the aisle do you wind up smashing out the tail of the plane? NO! This is because of Newton's first law. The motion you are in because of the vehicle you are travelling in does not suddenly disappear because a small vector of force goes in the other direction. The only way Bioware's version of physics could possibly work is if when we jump we some how convert into a light wave travelling at C. Really, needing to appeal to special relativity and magical mass energy conversations to RETCON this horrible physics is just absurd. I demand a fix. I dont suggest you to jump in the elevator.Thats not a good idea.Since you have some confusion between computer games and physical world , I need to cite that repair costs in real life is more painful then computer games.Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BardMedicine Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 My character has yet to poop. Why isn't he dead yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theborch Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I dont suggest you to jump in the elevator.Thats not a good idea.Since you have some confusion between computer games and physical world , I need to cite that repair costs in real life is more painful then computer games.Good luck. While he is jumping up and down in elevators proving how much the game sucks we'll just all go about our day actually playing the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covalent Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 My character loves elevators so much that in his excitement he jumps with greater force than he does on solid ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krameriffic Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Newton's First Law: Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of motion unless an external force is applied to it. If you're going to make a troll post where you pretend to know physics, at least get the physics jargon right. Newton's First Law requires mention of the notion of an inertial frame of reference. It does not apply outside of one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninurtacig Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 If you're going to make a troll post where you pretend to know physics, at least get the physics jargon right. Newton's First Law requires mention of the notion of an inertial frame of reference. It does not apply outside of one. Newton constructed his laws without appeal to reference frames. Regardless of the references frame the physics of how this game handles jumping on elevators is patently false. It needs to be fixed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarjarloves Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 psssst Light Sabers are 100% physically impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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