oseaswe Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 In commercial history. There is absolutely 0 reason why anyone should have to pay to play a game you already paid 60 bucks for. I hate subs so much I decided to pre-order Kingdoms of Amalur instead of subbing after my free month expires this Saturday. It would just be cheaper to pay for a 60 day game card than buy a brand new game but it's about principle people. Why do we have to pay for subs? Can anyone provide a logical and rational explanation? Because there is none. And don't tell me server costs, that's a load of crap. Plenty of games offer free multiplayer like Call of Duty and that game has more people than stupid TOR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuraBob_Fl Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I heard electricity is free if you use it run MMO servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamikaze Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) Longevity and regular new content patches. Subscriptions should not go to fixing bugs, IMO, but should go toward new content outside of expansions. Edited February 1, 2012 by Kamikaze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHexxus Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) Welcome to MMO's, the land where $15 for a month of many hours of entertainment is a hell of a bargain. Edited February 1, 2012 by TheHexxus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reaperkeepet Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Agreed. Subs are very spendy. LOVE the game, but very spendy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oseaswe Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 Longevity and regular new content patches. Huh? That's called DLC, and it's an optional feature. Hint OPTIONAL. People who want it pay for it, people who don't, they don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CadaKai Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 In commercial history. There is absolutely 0 reason why anyone should have to pay to play a game you already paid 60 bucks for. I hate subs so much I decided to pre-order Kingdoms of Amalur instead of subbing after my free month expires this Saturday. It would just be cheaper to pay for a 60 day game card than buy a brand new game but it's about principle people. Why do we have to pay for subs? Can anyone provide a logical and rational explanation? Because there is none. And don't tell me server costs, that's a load of crap. Plenty of games offer free multiplayer like Call of Duty and that game has more people than stupid TOR. I remember thinking this same thing when UO came out. I then realized how big of an idiot I was for thinking that. Maybe OP is 10 and has never seen an mmo before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOnlyKyrenS Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 And the entitlement generation strikes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewser Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 In commercial history. There is absolutely 0 reason why anyone should have to pay to play a game you already paid 60 bucks for. I hate subs so much I decided to pre-order Kingdoms of Amalur instead of subbing after my free month expires this Saturday. It would just be cheaper to pay for a 60 day game card than buy a brand new game but it's about principle people. Why do we have to pay for subs? Can anyone provide a logical and rational explanation? Because there is none. And don't tell me server costs, that's a load of crap. Plenty of games offer free multiplayer like Call of Duty and that game has more people than stupid TOR. Because it is a tremendous value. You post some funny **** for claiming to be an MBA student focusing on the computer gaming industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chorizo Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 $15 a month for a game that last me years... $60 every two weeks for a game that I can probably get through in days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamikaze Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 (edited) Huh? That's called DLC, and it's an optional feature. Hint OPTIONAL. People who want it pay for it, people who don't, they don't. You've never played an MMO then and should probably put foot in mouth before you say anything else. Edited February 1, 2012 by Kamikaze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ransom_BiC Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Welcome to MMO's, the land where $15 for a month of many hours of entertainment is a hell of a bargain. Agree. Cheaper than going to the movies a single time. Cheaper than dinner. Cheaper than a bottle of the liquor my husband drinks for a week. I have zero problem with subs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oseaswe Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 You've never played an MMO then and should probably put foot in mouth before you say anything else. Except SWTOR isn't an MMO. It's an instanced single-player game with optional co-op missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuraBob_Fl Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Because it is a tremendous value. You post some funny **** for claiming to be an MBA student focusing on the computer gaming industry. He's already said he wants TOR to fail because he wants all MMO's to be f2p lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamikaze Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Except SWTOR isn't an MMO. It's an instanced single-player game with optional co-op missions. I'm done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOnlyKyrenS Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 In commercial history. There is absolutely 0 reason why anyone should have to pay to play a game you already paid 60 bucks for. I hate subs so much I decided to pre-order Kingdoms of Amalur instead of subbing after my free month expires this Saturday. It would just be cheaper to pay for a 60 day game card than buy a brand new game but it's about principle people. Why do we have to pay for subs? Can anyone provide a logical and rational explanation? Because there is none. And don't tell me server costs, that's a load of crap. Plenty of games offer free multiplayer like Call of Duty and that game has more people than stupid TOR. the dude is obviously around 14-15 to make reference to Call of Duty and calling a game "stupid." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewser Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Except SWTOR isn't an MMO. It's an instanced single-player game with optional co-op missions. Hmmm, I guess you don't even know what MMO means. Didn't they get to that yet in your classes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oseaswe Posted February 1, 2012 Author Share Posted February 1, 2012 Look, the Diablo series is just as much an MMO by traditional standards as SWTOR, yet they've never charged a dime for subscriptions. Subscriptions are historically tacked-on "fees" that are completely unnecessary if you look at the history of videogames. Again, example is Diablo which can provide years of "free" entertainment. It's called replay-value. Just because a game has it doesn't mean it's justified to charge for it. I'm okay with paid DLC, not subs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illumisar Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 I heard electricity is free if you use it run MMO servers. And all the new content ad xpacs are harvested for free from pumpkin patches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chorizo Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Except SWTOR isn't an MMO. It's an instanced single-player game with optional co-op missions. I've played AC, DAOC, AO, SB, SWG, LOTRO, AOC, WAR, etc., etc., They are all MMOs. I'd like to think I am fairly good at spotting them. Saying TOR is not an MMO boggles my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadMalag Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Huh? That's called DLC, and it's an optional feature. Hint OPTIONAL. People who want it pay for it, people who don't, they don't. Do you have Xbox live? Paying 10 dollars a month to spend money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_the_flu Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Plenty of games offer free multiplayer like Call of Duty and that game has more people than stupid TOR. Correct me if i'm wrong, but arn't most these 'free' multiplayer games P2P servers and not dedicated servers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHexxus Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Look, the Diablo series is just as much an MMO by traditional standards as SWTOR, yet they've never charged a dime for subscriptions. Subscriptions are historically tacked-on "fees" that are completely unnecessary if you look at the history of videogames. Again, example is Diablo which can provide years of "free" entertainment. It's called replay-value. Just because a game has it doesn't mean it's justified to charge for it. I'm okay with paid DLC, not subs. Diablo has nowhere near the same depth as most MMO's. Playing with other people does not make it equal to MMO's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOnlyKyrenS Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 Look, the Diablo series is just as much an MMO by traditional standards as SWTOR, yet they've never charged a dime for subscriptions. Subscriptions are historically tacked-on "fees" that are completely unnecessary if you look at the history of videogames. Again, example is Diablo which can provide years of "free" entertainment. It's called replay-value. Just because a game has it doesn't mean it's justified to charge for it. I'm okay with paid DLC, not subs. Then go back to console gaming if you don't like pc gaming. You are still paying a subscription for internet so you lose that fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brickabrack Posted February 1, 2012 Share Posted February 1, 2012 OP you're right. Subs suck. but Microtransactions are the alternative these days, and they are so much worse from my perspective (pay real money for virtual items! And you still don't actually own the game! ) Compared to MT's, subbing is the better deal for the customer overall. Objectively? yeah I hate both subs and MT's, but that's not the world we live in. So better to go with the lesser of two evils in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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