darthdoll Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 ^^ Like this on every server these days. Proof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodtau Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Um, no. It was released on Feb 1st if I recall, they said the CURRENT number, do you know what CURRENT means? Most stayed and payed yes. Some were in their 'trial' period. They released on that date, doesn';t mean it was BASED on that day. Could have taken them 3 weeks to write up the report and get all the info, it could have told you data from the 25th of Dec all you know. Seriously, keep going, you're falling short every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineschmidt Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Proof? He has no proof, i just caught him lying about EU servers 5 minutes ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaximumDinosaur Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 http://www.torstatus.net/ Seems to indicate that the user base has been declining and continues to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodtau Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Proof? Log in. You are playing the game you keep defending right? Oh wait, nope, you're on the forum. Can;t be that great of a game then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blotter Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Log in. You are playing the game you keep defending right? Oh wait, nope, you're on the forum. Can;t be that great of a game then. Yawn. Some people aren't at home and.or are pretending to be busy at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodtau Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 http://www.torstatus.net/ Seems to indicate that the user base has been declining and continues to do so. Thank you for this. Maybe actual graphs like this will pop a few people's bubbles who think the game is perfect and brimming with players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineschmidt Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Log in. You are playing the game you keep defending right? Oh wait, nope, you're on the forum. Can;t be that great of a game then. Stop lying please, you've been caught. Your credibility is zero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colisius Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The 1.7 millions quoted subs was quoted within the first 30 day sub period, so cannot be accurate. It seems there was mass demand to play when it launched, then 45 days later keen gamers are max level and have finished end game stuff, so sub base drops as people suspend accounts. Sad thing is this game had real promise... If only bioware has though laterally and instead of having loads of servers, each one in theory being one big virtual universe. They should have made a planet per server and have everyone on same planet playing together on that planets server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varnoc Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 He has no proof, i just caught him lying about EU servers 5 minutes ago You are correct, he reported the complete opposite of what the actual servers are saying. Which means he is just trying to anger people on this thread. Best advice is just to ignore what he says. Besides in another post he has indicated his sub ends on the 22nd. So he will be gone soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quip Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 xfire? Yea, that rocked like 7 years ago Unreliable source is unreliable Step one: Demand a nearly unattainable statistic. Step two: Dismiss any source of information that does not reinforce you perception. Step three: Achieve blissful self-delusion. Provided Xfire's sample group (Xfire users that own TOR) hasn't mysteriously completely changed, their metric is actually pretty valid. Though by no means would it be a pin-point accurate representation of this game's population as a whole it is a valid indicator of trending. I don't think this game is "losing players in droves" by any stretch, but there are less players now than at the beginning of February and there were less at the end of January than at the beginning. That's according to Bioware's own nebulous Light, Standard, Heavy system being handily tracked by a website. That's totally normal for any MMO save two: EQ and WoW. More importantly it is now the universal rule for all P2P MMOs including WoW. The bottom line is that people are ending up on servers with very sparse player populations. It would be a nice gesture for Bioware to come up with a way for those players to make their way to more populated servers if they chose to take that opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodtau Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Yawn. Some people aren't at home and.or are pretending to be busy at work. Then you need to be sacked because you probably aren't that great at your job. If you were you'd probably have a more meaningful job where you don't have time to mess about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdoll Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 They released on that date, doesn';t mean it was BASED on that day. Could have taken them 3 weeks to write up the report and get all the info, it could have told you data from the 25th of Dec all you know. Seriously, keep going, you're falling short every time. Really now? Let me get the quote and make it easier for you to read. Q: Are these 1.7 subscribers paying? A: Active subscribers means anyone paying or in their trial period. Most of those 1.7m are paying at this point The game released on Dec. 20th, they announced what Feb 1st? How could there be most of the 1.7m paying if they grabbed the number from Dec. 25th? Easy for you right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodtau Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The 1.7 millions quoted subs was quoted within the first 30 day sub period, so cannot be accurate. It seems there was mass demand to play when it launched, then 45 days later keen gamers are max level and have finished end game stuff, so sub base drops as people suspend accounts. Sad thing is this game had real promise... If only bioware has though laterally and instead of having loads of servers, each one in theory being one big virtual universe. They should have made a planet per server and have everyone on same planet playing together on that planets server. ^^ this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdoll Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Thank you for this. Maybe actual graphs like this will pop a few people's bubbles who think the game is perfect and brimming with players Seems average after the initial drop. Once again, these are not meant to provide actual population. I forgot the other link which the guy made the same graph but he stated that this was no way meant to determine the actual population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineschmidt Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Step one: Demand a nearly unattainable statistic. Step two: Dismiss any source of information that does not reinforce you perception. Step three: Achieve blissful self-delusion. Provided Xfire's sample group (Xfire users that own TOR) hasn't mysteriously completely changed, their metric is actually pretty valid. Though by no means would it be a pin-point accurate representation of this game's population as a whole it is a valid indicator of trending. I don't think this game is "losing players in droves" by any stretch, but there are less players now than at the beginning of February and there were less at the end of January than at the beginning. That's according to Bioware's own nebulous Light, Standard, Heavy system being handily tracked by a website. That's totally normal for any MMO save two: EQ and WoW. More importantly it is now the universal rule for all P2P MMOs including WoW. The bottom line is that people are ending up on servers with very sparse player populations. It would be a nice gesture for Bioware to come up with a way for those players to make their way to more populated servers if they chose to take that opportunity. You forgot your own step - Make up random crap with no proof and claim to be right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewser Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Do you have proof it's NOT dropping? Exactly. I'd say there is more proof from playing the game that it IS dropping than it isn't. Can argue all you want, the game is a sinking ship. It's peak time in the EU, every server but 3 are light. SO who ever told you the other drabble is either giving you false data, or giving you old data from weeks ago before the masses started leaving. Could be either. HUH? There are 2x more heavy servers than light in EU right now and only 5 are light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdoll Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The 1.7 millions quoted subs was quoted within the first 30 day sub period, so cannot be accurate. It seems there was mass demand to play when it launched, then 45 days later keen gamers are max level and have finished end game stuff, so sub base drops as people suspend accounts. Sad thing is this game had real promise... If only bioware has though laterally and instead of having loads of servers, each one in theory being one big virtual universe. They should have made a planet per server and have everyone on same planet playing together on that planets server. Lol wrong, read my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodtau Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Really now? Let me get the quote and make it easier for you to read. Q: Are these 1.7 subscribers paying? A: Active subscribers means anyone paying or in their trial period. Most of those 1.7m are paying at this point The game released on Dec. 20th, they announced what Feb 1st? How could there be most of the 1.7m paying if they grabbed the number from Dec. 25th? Easy for you right? Active subscribers doesn't mean they PAYED! Remember that crap where Bioware made you set up an active sub to continue playing the game? They counted THIS, that means EVERY SINGLE account that bought the game was counted. They sold 1.7-2 mil units of the game, doesn't mean every single one of them payed when the deadline was in. Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quip Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 You forgot your own step - Make up random crap with no proof and claim to be right If you had any interest in information or knowledge at all, you could fact check everything I said. But let's be completely honest with ourselves, you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drewser Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The 1.7 millions quoted subs was quoted within the first 30 day sub period, so cannot be accurate. It seems there was mass demand to play when it launched, then 45 days later keen gamers are max level and have finished end game stuff, so sub base drops as people suspend accounts. Sad thing is this game had real promise... If only bioware has though laterally and instead of having loads of servers, each one in theory being one big virtual universe. They should have made a planet per server and have everyone on same planet playing together on that planets server. 100% false. MOst of those 1.7m had already used their 30 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodtau Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 100% false. MOst of those 1.7m had already used their 30 days. That is also 100% false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lineschmidt Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 If you had any interest in information or knowledge at all, you could fact check everything I said. But let's be completely honest with ourselves, you don't. Not my job to validate your made up claims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaximumDinosaur Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Seems average after the initial drop. Once again, these are not meant to provide actual population. I forgot the other link which the guy made the same graph but he stated that this was no way meant to determine the actual population. With respect, that is exactly what is being depicted. All the site is doing is cataloging the server status report provided by Bioware. More time spent at light population is tautologically indicative of fewer players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdoll Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 That is also 100% false. No, that is 100% Correct, keep trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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