Zaioss Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Bump for re-sticky for fellow aussies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybles Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 So much info to take in Thank you for taking the time to make this guide, very thorough, and insightful. I'm sure I'll keep coming back to it. Keep up the good work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phildanutter Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 It makes me happy to see this back again. Bookmarked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphis Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 Thank you for putting this together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegionofSith Posted December 13, 2011 Share Posted December 13, 2011 someone needs to sticky this. i just saved the link to my favorites in the mean time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squidwalker Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Alright, now we are cooking, thanks for reposting!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vraal Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 thanks for getting this back up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnv Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 thank you for repost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daredan Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Planning on running a Juggernaut, and this looks invaluable. Thanks for the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arbroath Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Thanks for getting this back up quickly mate. Now if we can just get it stickied quickly also, we'll be all set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warengine Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Don't listen to Phottek. He's bad k. /bump for sticky ;P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CronoWarrior Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Excellent info! Now let's kill some Republic scum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrol Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) And it's back, great work... again Edited December 14, 2011 by Farrol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samurro Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Sticky flag send, good you did repost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonoftw Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 This is a Masterpeice <3 Sticky please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodisius Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 This is a great guide: the description of abilities and talents is the most helpful I have read. I have a comment about a levelling build. There's a case for getting as fast down the defence tree as you can (to unlock the new abilities and other more powerful talents) which is a problem as all three tier 1 talents are rather nice. You rate Battle Cry as the least of the three and so I have not taken it yet. But having used it on the stress test beta, I am finding it hard to live without. With it, you can leap, then force scream and smash. Without it, early on, you can only do one and must build up more rage before doing the other. If I want 3/3 Battle Cry (and the other tier 1 talents) and want to get to Crushing Blow as fast as I can, I will have to defer 2 other points from the immortal tree for later. I suspect they should come from heavy handed. Also a question about Ravage. Before I read your guide, I was using this alot in the beta but you say it's channel can be broken by taking damage. I guess it can be interrupted by special moves, as we can use kick etc to interrupt AI channelled attacks. But does simply taking damage break it? I did not notice that in the beta. The problems I had were that movement broke the channel, as did mobs dying fast. However, is the damage spread over the duration of the attack (rather than back loaded)? If so, does it really matter if the channel breaks? You'd still be doing decent damage (for no rage cost) until it broke. I get the impression from my reading that ravage is not supposed to be part of the tank's rotation, so maybe I am missing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_Tress Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Phottek thank you for posting this once again. i am glad you were able to. this is the best guide there is for a Jugg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKKETYL Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 Nice guide. Thanks for posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KVork Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 This is a great guide: the description of abilities and talents is the most helpful I have read. Also a question about Ravage. Before I read your guide, I was using this alot in the beta but you say it's channel can be broken by taking damage. I guess it can be interrupted by special moves, as we can use kick etc to interrupt AI channelled attacks. But does simply taking damage break it? I did not notice that in the beta. The problems I had were that movement broke the channel, as did mobs dying fast. However, is the damage spread over the duration of the attack (rather than back loaded)? If so, does it really matter if the channel breaks? You'd still be doing decent damage (for no rage cost) until it broke. I get the impression from my reading that ravage is not supposed to be part of the tank's rotation, so maybe I am missing something. As I observed during Beta, Ravage takes 2 GDC to finish. During first GDC you deliver aprox. 35% of total damage, and final blow during second GDC deals twice the damage of apetisers. So interupting this is painfull IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeskimo Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 bump 4 sticky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordNivaro Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Recommended highly before forum wipe and now after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonoftw Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 How is this not stickied yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarinTabun Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 awesome guide. one thing you may want to add is what gifts each companion likes. i think that would be a cool addition. this could be a 1 stop shop for everything relating to a Jugg. ALSO STICKY THIS DANG THING!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phottek Posted December 15, 2011 Author Share Posted December 15, 2011 awesome guide. one thing you may want to add is what gifts each companion likes. i think that would be a cool addition. this could be a 1 stop shop for everything relating to a Jugg. ALSO STICKY THIS DANG THING!!!!!! There are a bunch of changes like this coming really soon. Im getting lots of feedback and have more contributors approaching me every day. The good folks at Torhead have provided some support so you can expect more in the abilities and talents sections soon. People have been sending me some great talent builds which will be added. Here's a brief list of some of the bigger additions on the way Adding companion gift preferencesBase Damage for highest rank of SW abilitiesMinimum level to aquire each SW abiltiyExpansion of PVP section to include detailed strategies for SW tanksLinks to guides for every flashpoint in the gameMore talent builds (including leveling specific examples) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordNivaro Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Those updates are really great news! Also nice to see TORhead lending a hand! You're my hero! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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