Beta-Knight Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Alright guys we all know the Op's got nerfed. I have a feeling that we might be next due to the ranter in the PVP forum section. We have to stand together! Everyone please sign to show that we don't need a nerf! They don't understand that even though we can dps we have NO defence! Once our shield is down, we, ourselves, are downed within a few seconds. We are balanced. The main issue is their is just so many of us. To Bioware: You made SI's the way they are for a reason. Don't listen to the whiners and haters. You made us a balanced class by giving us strong dps skills, at a cost of a very low defence. Please don't make an unnecessary nerf. I am grateful for the game you've made but nerfing the OP's was a mistake in my eyes. Please do not make another mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashnazg Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Alright guys we all know the Op's got nerfed. I have a feeling that we might be next due to the ranter in the PVP forum section. We have to stand together! Everyone please sign to show that we don't need a nerf! They don't understand that even though we can dps we have NO defence! Once our shield is down, we, ourselves, are downed within a few seconds. We are balanced. The main issue is their is just so many of us. To Bioware: You made SI's the way they are for a reason. Don't listen to the whiners and haters. You made us a balanced class by giving us strong dps skills, at a cost of a very low defence. Please don't make an unnecessary nerf. I am grateful for the game you've made but nerfing the OP's was a mistake in my eyes. Please do not make another mistake. The only change Bioware needs is to universally nerf the CC of all classes in this game. Almost every AC has access to a stun and a long-term CC, which should not be the case. I wouldn't mind if they removed our electrocute stun from all inquisitors for the sake of game balance, and nerfed knockback to 40s or 1 m cooldown. The same should happen to all other AC's that possess mirror abilities, of course. And then give healer trees a talented 4s stun (single target). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elbeno Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I agree with the OP nerff as a mistake but i would like to see some change in SI but no major Nerf or Buff. i Think the SI needs to be played more because it hits all roles in the game from heals,dps, and tank. making an big changes now could be a huge mistake when as of now the SI looks stable in PvP and PvE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkblack Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 The only change Bioware needs is to universally nerf the CC of all classes in this game. Almost every AC has access to a stun and a long-term CC, which should not be the case. I wouldn't mind if they removed our electrocute stun from all inquisitors for the sake of game balance, and nerfed knockback to 40s or 1 m cooldown. The same should happen to all other AC's that possess mirror abilities, of course. And then give healer trees a talented 4s stun (single target). And you don't think removing stun from electrocute wouldn't screw over PVE. the people on the forum scare me. I hope this is not where BW gets it's ideals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dargor- Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I blame the idiots that live for PvP Classes (including Operatives) need a ******** of buffs to happen to improve the current PvE setup, but instead, we get PvP nerfs that also ruin classes for PvE. Screw PvPers, see sig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliknor Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Well... everybody knows they always nerf the OP'd, so they don't even really need to make an excuse for that class..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaydul Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Not really sure why you would think SI would be next, OPs could kill a tank in 3 seconds while they were stunned. I've never heard of a SI doing that...So I doubt we're next on the chopping block for a nerf. As for the QQ you will always have it, because everyone wants their class to be the best, and do the highest damage, and have the highest survivability, and heal the most, and have the most OP CC and be able to do everything and not die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Alyria Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Every WZ I play could double as Sorcs Anonymous. Not only are we getting nerfed, given what they did to Ops and Scoundrels, it's gonna be crippling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashnazg Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 And you don't think removing stun from electrocute wouldn't screw over PVE. the people on the forum scare me. I hope this is not where BW gets it's ideals. If you are relying on electrocute stun in PvE, I don't even know what to say.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabaal Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 The only change i can see happening to Sorcs is perhaps the removal of the slow on Force lightning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanidius Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 powertechs just sayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBrite Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 So operative was OP and sorcs are fine? You guys live in Disneyland... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddyBearSniper Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 but we're already so weak . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Hatine Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 So operative was OP and sorcs are fine? You guys live in Disneyland... This. Also maybe it will make some those dps sorcerer go to another class(republic class would be nice) so the population is balanced out a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daellia Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 The only change Bioware needs is to universally nerf the CC of all classes in this game. Almost every AC has access to a stun and a long-term CC, which should not be the case. I wouldn't mind if they removed our electrocute stun from all inquisitors for the sake of game balance, and nerfed knockback to 40s or 1 m cooldown. Er...why not just adjusted Resolve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocorras Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) If they nerf sorcs it will be in a way that doesn't hurt assassins, you can bet on that. Edited January 23, 2012 by Arzhanin Rude comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilsorc Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 The classes are pretty much balanced at end game on my server. Not alot of Inq so i dont kno why people keep saying that. Alot of people ive talked to are tired of being squishy and rerolling assassins or another class that can do some nice melee damage. People r bored of the ranged dps. I mean im not, i played a warlock in wow and the madness sorc playstyle is alot like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zederok Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Alright guys we all know the Op's got nerfed. I have a feeling that we might be next due to the ranter in the PVP forum section. We have to stand together! Everyone please sign to show that we don't need a nerf! They don't understand that even though we can dps we have NO defence! Once our shield is down, we, ourselves, are downed within a few seconds. We are balanced. The main issue is their is just so many of us. To Bioware: You made SI's the way they are for a reason. Don't listen to the whiners and haters. You made us a balanced class by giving us strong dps skills, at a cost of a very low defence. Please don't make an unnecessary nerf. I am grateful for the game you've made but nerfing the OP's was a mistake in my eyes. Please do not make another mistake. Sorc's deserve a nerf as much as an Operative. The game will not be balanced untill Sorcs, lolTRACERspam, and Pyro Powertechs are bought onto the same level as Assasins, Mauraders, Juggs and Snipers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyde Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Sorcs wont get nerfed.. There are tons of them. There are so many sorcs they will drown out the cries to keep there OP class. When it comes to operative.. All the Sorcs cried out at once and got a class nerfed. So please sorcs.. at least get BH nerfed also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelticfury Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 but we're already so weak . . . . Hahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha oh no you dint! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordBritain Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 My Sorc is very week. Full healer Spec, PvE Light armor. I'm there to help support the DPS people. If I get nerfed then I'm truely stuffed. I sense a disturbance I've not felt since................the SWG nerf bat was wielded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omnifiend Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Assassins are already rather weak..if you removed the stun, we'd just be worthless at the PVP. Some classes rely on stuns, some don't. I agree on the CC though...but if you did remove the stuns and knockbacks, dps would have to be buffed appropriately for CERTAIN classes, not all, just some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordZanos Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 (edited) Sorc's deserve a nerf as much as an Operative. The game will not be balanced untill Sorcs, lolTRACERspam, and Pyro Powertechs are bought onto the same level as Assasins, Mauraders, Juggs and Snipers. Because automatic crits on forcesweep for 5-7k damage in an AoE around you is balanced? lolok. Only time I ever do excellent burst damage is when I pop my relic and recklessness and dump lightning. And sorcs needs their CC, considering I get destroyed if anyone gets close to me. Electrocute and WW are on a 1m CD, which is pretty damn long. Bubble is also the only defensive cooldown Sorcs have, although I can see the duration of deionization being increased. I can see electric binding from the AoE being nerfed, but that has to be talented into and is no worse than flash grenade. Creeping terror I can see the root being removed. People think sorcs can dump incredibly DPS and then go and heal themselves, but your DPS isn't great unless you're DPS spec, and your healing is awful unless your speced into that. Some hybrid dps/healing specs are way too survivable in PvP though. Personally if someone or two someones chase me down, I generally die. Snipers and Marauders also do excellent damage, and Marauders have incredible survivability, what are you on about? Edited January 22, 2012 by LordZanos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beta-Knight Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share Posted January 22, 2012 If anything I think Sorcs need a buff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhealThar Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 Because automatic crits on forcesweep for 5-7k damage in an AoE around you is balanced? lolok. Only time I ever do excellent burst damage is when I pop my relic and recklessness and dump lightning. And sorcs needs their CC, considering I get destroyed if anyone gets close to me. Electrocute and WW are on a 1m CD, which is pretty damn long. Bubble is also the only defensive cooldown Sorcs have, although I can see the duration of deionization being increased. I can see electric binding from the AoE being nerfed, but that has to be talented into and is no worse than flash grenade. Creeping terror I can see the root being removed. People think sorcs can dump incredibly DPS and then go and heal themselves, but your DPS isn't great unless you're DPS spec, and your healing is awful unless your speced into that. Some hybrid dps/healing specs are way too survivable in PvP though. Personally if someone or two someones chase me down, I generally die. Snipers and Marauders also do excellent damage, and Marauders have incredible survivability, what are you on about? Not to rain on your parade but the Sith Sorcerer in my guild is DPS spec and he does 300k damage and 200k healing every single warzone match. Also, juggs doing "5-7k" force smashes are only available once every 21 seconds and it only hits for 4-5k after that their damage is terrible. The 7k smashes you see in youtube videos are when biochem consumables were over the top. Sorcerers do so much more damage than juggs/guardians while offering all the cc and utility they have. I'm not saying they need to be nerfed but to use Jugg smashes as your argument and not even knowing how the class functions is silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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