kidice Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 you in EU or US ? cause its not same amount , EU is in Euros, US in $. Also sales tax can be added to the amount BW charges, thats not their fault mate. Like saome ppl suggested, open ticket ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnie Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) Don't know if it works this way in every state but in California, all sales taxes are PoP (point-of-purchase) and it's ultimately the responsibility of the reseller to pay them, not the consumer. In other words, if the reseller forgets to charge you, the state still charges them the same amount. Of course, in California sales taxes only apply to goods, not services. yeah that's how it is over here (Germany), it's the seller's responsibility. however, it's nation-wide so the whole 'taxes different in every state' is a little confusing to me and I'll probably never understand it kidice: the Euro is 1,30 Dollar or something... (maybe more, maybe less, it changes daily...) you'd pay 13€ a month, not 16 (and I would definitely punch someone if they changed me 3€ more) Edited January 21, 2012 by amnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piddletrenthyde Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 yeah that's how it is over here (Germany), it's the seller's responsibility. however, it's nation-wide so the whole 'taxes different in every state' is a little confusing to me and I'll probably never understand it Don't worry. Their is A LOT of crazy crap that us Americans don't understand our government doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orvish Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) I'm not a pro on US-laws, but don't you guys have to pay the taxes 'later' if you aren't charged right away? Theoretically, yes, but in practice, it frequently isn't caught. If you go to another state for example to buy something (that isn't your state of residence) and pay a lesser sales tax, you're supposed to pay the difference in tax to your state. No one does, though. And it's all based on where you are. There's always a disclaimer that says your payments can be subject to local/federal tax laws. Don't worry. Their is A LOT of crazy crap that us Americans don't understand our government doing. It's true Even those of us studying to become tax specialists have issues comprehending all the ins and outs of the tax code. Doesn't help that the tax code conflicts with itself in multiple areas. Edited January 21, 2012 by Orvish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGsChevy Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 It may have something to do with the location of the company that provides the service... like if you live in the state that company is based. Do we have a winner? SWTOR from Bioware in Austin...Texas. Coincidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piddletrenthyde Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Do we have a winner? SWTOR from Bioware in Austin...Texas. Coincidence? That would prolly be it. +1 internets to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qoojo Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 That's odd. Almost sounds like a 6.5% sales tax is being tacked on. Are MMO subs taxable in some places? I believe any online site must collect taxes if they have businesses in your state. So I am guessing that if you live in TX or CA, EA will be collecting taxes. Keep in mind that I might be wrong, but that rule seems to work for all sites that I use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnie Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Theoretically, yes, but in practice, it frequently isn't caught. If you go to another state for example to buy something (that isn't your state of residence) and pay a lesser sales tax, you're supposed to pay the difference in tax to your state. No one does, though. And it's all based on where you are. There's always a disclaimer that says your payments can be subject to local/federal tax laws. It's true Even those of us studying to become tax specialists have issues comprehending all the ins and outs of the tax code. Doesn't help that the tax code conflicts with itself in multiple areas. ah ok that's kinda what I was thinking (so I guess it's similar to me buying something from a different country where I still technically have to pay some tax differencies but usually don't bother *cough*) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kediec Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I wasn't overbilled in regards to being charged mroe than they said . How-ever , i did only recieve "28 days" subscription for my " 30 day payment " , so , my account just got cancelled until they fix it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannic Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) yeah that's how it is over here (Germany), it's the seller's responsibility. however, it's nation-wide so the whole 'taxes different in every state' is a little confusing to me and I'll probably never understand it kidice: the Euro is 1,30 Dollar or something... (maybe more, maybe less, it changes daily...) you'd pay 13€ a month, not 16 (and I would definitely punch someone if they changed me 3€ more) Best way to understand America's state system is to imagine all of Europe became one country. You'd have whatever central government that was established for the "United States of Europe," but then the individual countries (states) would still want some measure of autonomy and the ability to levy their own taxes and such. So, like Americans, you'd end up paying municipal, State, and Federal taxes. Sales taxes and other state taxes/fees aren't regulated by the Federal government. The feds collect income tax and taxes for Social Security and Medicare. Edited January 21, 2012 by Mannic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aalodar Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) I believe any online site must collect taxes if they have businesses in your state. So I am guessing that if you live in TX or CA, EA will be collecting taxes. Keep in mind that I might be wrong, but that rule seems to work for all sites that I use. your right i do live in texas austin to be exact, however trion is here also makers of rift and i pay only 14.99 to them for my rift account, so this is not adding up or making any sense at all. if it had been the norm for any of the past 15 years i had been gaming from austin texas i wouldnt be wondering about it. fact is this is the very first time i have ever paied over 14.99 for a mmo so i have a pretty strong feeling it is not taxes. trion...austin texas...14.99 a month is what im charged. boware...austin texas....15.98 a month is what im charged i dont buy the sales tax thing Edited January 21, 2012 by Aalodar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kediec Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) your right i do live in texas austin to be exact, however trion is here also makers of rift and i pay only 14.99 to them for my rift account, so this is not adding up or making any sense at all. if it had been the norm for any of the past 15 years i had been gaming from austin texas i wouldnt be wondering about it. fact is this is the very first time i have ever paied over 14.99 for a mmo so i have a pretty strong feeling it is not taxes. trion...austin texas...14.99 a month is what im charged. boware...austin texas....15.98 a month is what im charged i dont buy the sales tax thing Most MMO's are inclusive of any taxes , how-ever , Bioware/EA specifically state " * Taxes, if applicable, will be calculated at time of charge. " on the subcription page . That alone can explain you not paying more in other games . Edited January 21, 2012 by Kediec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejoblue Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 The company has to pay taxes later. When you pay sales tax that is the business making you pay. Some businesses charge $14.99 and pay the tax out of that others make you pay the tax after. As for it being tax the tax would be different from state to state so some would be charged 15 99 some 15 78 etc. This doesnt sound like a tax to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumajin Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 your right i do live in texas austin to be exact, however trion is here also makers of rift and i pay only 14.99 to them for my rift account, so this is not adding up or making any sense at all. if it had been the norm for any of the past 15 years i had been gaming from austin texas i wouldnt be wondering about it. fact is this is the very first time i have ever paied over 14.99 for a mmo so i have a pretty strong feeling it is not taxes. trion...austin texas...14.99 a month is what im charged. boware...austin texas....15.98 a month is what im charged i dont buy the sales tax thing SWTOR is not billed from Texas. Although the studio might be in Texas, the bill says "Redwood City, CA" under the company name for the address that billed me. So, it seems the registered location of the company doing the billing is California. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGsChevy Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 After a calculator and a quick google search, I don't think it's sales tax either. $15.98 is ~6.6% sales tax, but Texas has 8.25% sales tax. Perhaps some sort of $0.99 fee, either from BW or the CC company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romiz Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 That's odd. Almost sounds like a 6.5% sales tax is being tacked on. Are MMO subs taxable in some places? Yes some USA States change a tax and also some countries do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumajin Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 After a calculator and a quick google search, I don't think it's sales tax either. $15.98 is ~6.6% sales tax, but Texas has 8.25% sales tax. Perhaps some sort of $0.99 fee, either from BW or the CC company? I was thinking the same thing. My PayPal account was charged $14.99 for both house hold accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itekazzawrrlic Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Some time card codes aren't even working, and phone support is unhelpful, to say the least. Some credit cards aren't even recognized. The billing team for this game needs to get its collective head out of its collective ***. I was entering the info for my game card when the system charged my credit card. Like literally at exactly the same time. When i looked at my account it said i had 90 days. I called customer service and was talking to a real person within 5 minutes, had the whole thing resolved within an hour. THEN when i logged in, i wasn't in for more than a minute when i got an online chat request from customer service. I explained that i had already cleared up the matter, but kudos for being there anyways. Keep up the good work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romiz Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 SWTOR is not billed from Texas. Although the studio might be in Texas, the bill says "Redwood City, CA" under the company name for the address that billed me. So, it seems the registered location of the company doing the billing is California. But they have a corporate branch in Texas. So that give TX the right to tax the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnie Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Best way to understand America's state system is to imagine all of Europe became one country. You'd have whatever central government that was established for the "United States of Europe," but then the individual countries (states) would still want some measure of autonomy and the ability to levy their own taxes and such. So, like Americans, you'd end up paying municipal, State, and Federal taxes. Sales taxes and other state taxes/fees aren't regulated by the Federal government. The feds collect income tax and taxes for Social Security and Medicare. yeah the system over here works a little different but that's kinda making sense. it reminds me of the big deal with the speeding tickets we had until last year (e.g. when you were caught speeding in Italy but lived in Germany you wouldn't be charged. they changed that now and you get the ticket sent anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aalodar Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 SWTOR is not billed from Texas. Although the studio might be in Texas, the bill says "Redwood City, CA" under the company name for the address that billed me. So, it seems the registered location of the company doing the billing is California. agreed and how much did your subscription cost? i dont live in california and should not have to pay there sales tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aalodar Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 I was thinking the same thing. My PayPal account was charged $14.99 for both house hold accounts. where do you live at? anyone else live in texas can confirm they paied 15.98? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itekazzawrrlic Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 so game is supposed to be 14.99/month like every other one on the planet however all four of my accounts for my family had to pay 15.98 each, and i can get noone at customer service to tell me why or give me a refund, i have no issue subbing to the game my whole family loves it, but if we are gonna be shadely charged and overcharged then i will leave if this is not fixed. Are you using a pre-paid credit card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebular Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) I'm in Michigan, never had to pay sales tax here on MMO subscriptions. Here's my statement from the bank: 01/21 http://WWW.SWTOR.COM STARWARS REDWOOD CITY CA, -$14.99 I am willing to bet that you are seeing internet sale tax. Some MMO companies include the sales tax in their price and just pay it themselves, to keep the "cost" competitive. Edited January 21, 2012 by Zebular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aalodar Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 Are you using a pre-paid credit card? no i am using my debit card same one i have used on many mmos ncluding my current and still paied for rift account. this is nto a fee from the bank or credit card company i called thier 24 hour line they say its what the company charged me they have no fees for these type of transactions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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