flegg Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDartheous Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) The jedi guardian wearing the trooper gear in the first 10 seconds is awesome (bottom left corner)... I almost wanna gear out my Juggernaut to look like a BH now. Edited January 20, 2012 by DarthDartheous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flegg Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 yea nothing to do but rp now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psysention Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 am i wrong or are these people have a "Fight Club" where they kill each other intentionally for valor gain... GG Bioware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oJebuso Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Whats the point of this video? Exposing exploiters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psysention Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) Whats the point of this video? Exposing exploiters? they are not just exploiting they are intentionally killing each other for mutual benefit of valor gain watch the video till the end, sorc is rezzing them Edited January 20, 2012 by psysention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oJebuso Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 they are not just exploiting they are intentionally killing each other for mutual benefit of valor gain watch the video till the end, sorc is rezzing them "They are not just exploiting, they're exploiting" Thanks for the explanation man...... But how is it any different from any other game? People do this crap in MMO's all of the time, win trading is going to happen no matter what type of system exists in an open world setting. The OP's sarcastic thread title is a poor argument for why Ilum sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flegg Posted January 20, 2012 Author Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) 1.01 was better and fine. That's my point Edited January 20, 2012 by flegg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vant Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 People like this don't bother me, because while they were exploiting I was learning to play my character at a disadvantage, win trade all you want, it all balances out in the long run. BTW thanks for the Vid, after seeing that "action" will be taken for stuff like this, I hope someone has documented the names visible in the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psysention Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 "They are not just exploiting, they're exploiting" Thanks for the explanation man...... But how is it any different from any other game? People do this crap in MMO's all of the time, win trading is going to happen no matter what type of system exists in an open world setting. The OP's sarcastic thread title is a poor argument for why Ilum sucks. bro, all of the noobs cried and whined > there is no pvp there is no ilum etc there you go ilum if you expect single player gaming company to create a mmo you get pvp like this one people who has no idea about multiplayer gaming tries to develop Massively Multiplayer online game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoatSenator Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 What? How is it an exploit if Bioware included it in the game? That makes no sense whatsoever. If a developer includes something in a game it isn't an exploit. Unintended? Yes, but that isn't the player's fault, it's the developers. Personally, I'm not a little baby and I don't care if people ranked to max valor because of this. So be it. I'm only 35 and I still have fun in games. People don't really work together in pub games anyway. Not happy Bioware is choosing to punish people for something they included in the game. Bad business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obi-joachim Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 yeaaah... you should be banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottybubble Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) People like this don't bother me, because while they were exploiting I was learning to play my character at a disadvantage, win trade all you want, it all balances out in the long run. BTW thanks for the Vid, after seeing that "action" will be taken for stuff like this, I hope someone has documented the names visible in the video. People like this dont bother you? So when they are wearing their free welfare batllemaster epics, destroying you before you can even get them to 75% it doesn't bother you? Naive. Edited January 21, 2012 by Pottybubble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flegg Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 Bioware / EA won't do a damn thing to these people.. They haven't done anything yet except make the game worse and worse. They are probably too incompetent to roll back valor and if they do something dramatic like ban people they will lose entire guilds that had people banned in them. Because the game sure ain't worth re-rolling over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedalin Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 What? How is it an exploit if Bioware included it in the game? That makes no sense whatsoever. If a developer includes something in a game it isn't an exploit. Unintended? Yes, but that isn't the player's fault, it's the developers. Personally, I'm not a little baby and I don't care if people ranked to max valor because of this. So be it. I'm only 35 and I still have fun in games. People don't really work together in pub games anyway. Not happy Bioware is choosing to punish people for something they included in the game. Bad business. It seems MOST people don't fully understand what an exploit is. Exploiting doesn't necessarily mean your taking advantage of a game glitch, but your taking advantage of a game mechanic, and using it for purposes not intended. Yes Bioware intended world pvp, and killing for dailies. NO Bioware did not intended for people to trade kills for valor. And YOU may not care if people are exploiting this mechanic to get high valor levels, but I do. I've always enjoyed pvp, and while I don't do it competitively, I like knowing that the reason people in full battlemaster's that face roll me, are face rolling me because they spent hours/weeks earning it. Not because they stood there and aoe'd and kill traded to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flegg Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) It seems MOST people don't fully understand what an exploit is. Exploiting doesn't necessarily mean your taking advantage of a game glitch, but your taking advantage of a game mechanic, and using it for purposes not intended. Yes Bioware intended world pvp, and killing for dailies. NO Bioware did not intended for people to trade kills for valor. And YOU may not care if people are exploiting this mechanic to get high valor levels, but I do. I've always enjoyed pvp, and while I don't do it competitively, I like knowing that the reason people in full battlemaster's that face roll me, are face rolling me because they spent hours/weeks earning it. Not because they stood there and aoe'd and kill traded to death. People are still trading as we speak. They have to fix the problem before they roll back any players or they will have every one of their employees sitting there rolling people back. Let's see how long it takes them to fix this one. Fairly awesome how every change they make is worse and worse. My guild was actually planning to re-roll republic and wipe the imperials waiting around for trading in 1.01. But now people can hide in random spots on the map to trade. GG so much for trying republic out. Edited January 21, 2012 by flegg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedalin Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 People are still trading as we speak. They have to fix the problem before they roll back any players or they will have every one of their employees sitting there rolling people back. Let's see how long it takes them to fix this one. Fairly awesome how every change they make is worse and worse. My guild was actually planning to re-roll republic and wipe the imperials waiting around for trading in 1.01. But now people can hide in random spots on the map in trade. GG so much for trying republic out. Of course they are. Ilum is the most efficient way to get valor right now. I am FULLY convinced that anyone who refuses to acknowledge there is an issue is either A) Imperial B)Only do warzones and haven't even been to Ilum C) Aren't even high enough level to see the effects this has had on pvp. Before I would only see MAYBE one or two battlemasters in warzones. Because those people more than likely exploited the early days pvp, but now I go into warzones and I see at least one battlemaster in every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobings Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 What? How is it an exploit if Bioware included it in the game? That makes no sense whatsoever. If a developer includes something in a game it isn't an exploit. Unintended? Yes, but that isn't the player's fault, it's the developers. Personally, I'm not a little baby and I don't care if people ranked to max valor because of this. So be it. I'm only 35 and I still have fun in games. People don't really work together in pub games anyway. Not happy Bioware is choosing to punish people for something they included in the game. Bad business. It's called trading and/or padding and it's a bannable offense in any game that has a rewards system or stat tracking system in place. Hi, welcome to video games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flegg Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 It's called trading and/or padding and it's a bannable offense in any game that has a rewards system or stat tracking system in place. Hi, welcome to video games. Except none of those other games were ever as broken as SWTOR is in 1.1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dipstik Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) I need to hear from BW that this is bannable. Edited January 21, 2012 by dipstik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoobings Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) Except none of those other games were ever as broken as SWTOR is in 1.1. You'd be wrong. Not to mention that's more than irrelevent Edited January 21, 2012 by Scoobings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelegendiryoku Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Soooo sick!! I can't wait to play this now! Why are people complaining? THIS IS AWESOME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flegg Posted January 21, 2012 Author Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) Soooo sick!! I can't wait to play this now! Why are people complaining? THIS IS AWESOME! Agreed. Edited January 21, 2012 by flegg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igax Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 So I am not alone in hating the "1.1 Ilum" good to know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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