Proposed Hybrid Watchman/Focus Sent Build

[Bulbasaur]

I leveled to 25 in focus, and after that switched to watchman until well past 50. I've resently respeced back into focus and there are some things I loved from both trees, so I decided to throw together a hybrid build of both.

 

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#501bIrkMoMZZRMRrdbR0M.1

 

I have yet to test this build (just respeced back to Focus today so I want to master it a bit more) but I can easily see how this tree could end up being very very lethal with a combo of DoT stacking (OS and Cauterize) and building up Singularity for big Force Sweeps (Aided with close quarters)

 

What do you guys think? I'm definately gonna miss Force Exhaustion more than Merciless Slash (the only real downside I see in the tree)

[Funick]

your proposed spec wastes points improving two different stances, as you cant have more that one stance up at a time this seems inefficient.

[Bulbasaur]

Shii-Cho in regular combat, and hop over to Juyo when you build centering (or if your focus building movies are on CD, stay in Shii-Cho and enjoy the focus-less AOE slash)

 

Because the primary damage will be coming from advantages found in Shii-Cho form, its only wise to stay in that stance unless you want to utilize the stronger Juyo Zen

[Apocalypse-]

Swapping stances costs you your entire focus bar. Sentinels can't hybrid, and Force Exhaustion is far superior to a non-Juyo stacked Overload Saber, especially since it stacks Singularity.

[Vibeth]

Question, are DoT ticks from Overload Saber and Cauterize "Force" attacks?

[Apocalypse-]

Question, are DoT ticks from Overload Saber and Cauterize "Force" attacks?

 

Overload saber, Yes. Cauterize, no. You can prove this by traiting combat and using Ataru. If you Cauterize someone and then hit satsis, you'll see yourself doing ataru attacks during Stasis. Ataru attacks only proc off melee attacks.

[Psybin]

I tried this out one time:

 

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#501bIbRrRMZZGR0rdbM.1

 

It was ok, but nothing special, I specced back to normal watchman pretty quick...

[SharkSurfr]

I tried a hybrid build like this. the burn+high critting slash build is extremely focus weak without burning focus. your basically replacing MS with a high cirt rate spammable slash but you need alot of focus to keep it going.

 

this is what I suggest. http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#501bIbRroMfMZZGr0rz.1

[MBirkhofer]

Overload saber, Yes. Cauterize, no. You can prove this by traiting combat and using Ataru. If you Cauterize someone and then hit satsis, you'll see yourself doing ataru attacks during Stasis. Ataru attacks only proc off melee attacks.

 

or you can test it by actually getting the +30% damage to force crits in the focus tree, and seeing cauterize totally DOES get the damage.

[Apocalypse-]

or you can test it by actually getting the +30% damage to force crits in the focus tree, and seeing cauterize totally DOES get the damage.

 

Ugh. I hate Cauterize, it can't possibly be both but it acts like it.

[PantsOn]

Stance-dancing does not work in SWTOR. Your build = useless.

[Bulbasaur]

Then Shii-Cho all day lol

[PantsOn]

Then Shii-Cho all day lol

 

Then what's the point of even doing Watchman? Why not full Focus?

[Nitaram]

I play watchman exclusively. I am looking at this from purely a pvp standpoint.

 

The only reason I would be tempted to build a hybrid with the focus tree would be to grab Inner Focus to be able to roll Transcendence.

 

For those who do not understand that talent, it returns 10 centering to you for every player affected by your Transcendence. This allows you to keep it up constantly if you are playing as a team.

 

You are also able to grab Focused Pursuit from the watchman tree making your Transcendence even more powerful.

 

Here is the build:

 

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#501bIbRrorZZGr0rkM.1

 

You have two additional points to play with. They could go in defensive forms, or finishing out Pulse and grabbing Unwavering Focus. They could also go in Force Fade if you like running through fires in Hutball.

 

You would play this build mostly like a Watchman, in Juyo form. You keep Transcendence rolling and use Zen when you are going for a kill.

 

This build gives your group extreme mobility at the expense of your personal damage. It will help your healers and ranged kite and your melee stay on targets.

 

I personally would not play this spec because I roll with a tank and two healers in most of my WZs and I need to do as much damage as possible.

 

Just my two cents.

[Apocalypse-]

I play watchman exclusively. I am looking at this from purely a pvp standpoint.

 

The only reason I would be tempted to build a hybrid with the focus tree would be to grab Inner Focus to be able to roll Transcendence.

 

For those who do not understand that talent, it returns 10 centering to you for every player affected by your Transcendence. This allows you to keep it up constantly if you are playing as a team.

 

You are also able to grab Focused Pursuit from the watchman tree making your Transcendence even more powerful.

 

Here is the build:

 

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#501bIbRrorZZGr0rkM.1

 

You have two additional points to play with. They could go in defensive forms, or finishing out Pulse and grabbing Unwavering Focus. They could also go in Force Fade if you like running through fires in Hutball.

 

You would play this build mostly like a Watchman, in Juyo form. You keep Transcendence rolling and use Zen when you are going for a kill.

 

This build gives your group extreme mobility at the expense of your personal damage. It will help your healers and ranged kite and your melee stay on targets.

 

I personally would not play this spec because I roll with a tank and two healers in most of my WZs and I need to do as much damage as possible.

 

Just my two cents.

The major issue I see with that build is you're going to be really, really focus starved.

 

But for Huttball, 100% uptime on 80% in-combat run speed almost seems like cheating.

[Inseh]

http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#501bIrRborcGzZMMZhR.1

 

This is the one I am using, might not be perfect, but I like it

[Nitaram]

The major issue I see with that build is you're going to be really, really focus starved.

 

But for Huttball, 100% uptime on 80% in-combat run speed almost seems like cheating.

 

I agree.

 

I really like the Inner Focus talent, and have considered just going Focus. I hate giving up the self heals and the single target damage of watchman though.

 

I can't wait for them to fix Searing Saber.

[MBirkhofer]

Ugh. I hate Cauterize, it can't possibly be both but it acts like it.

 

well it is both. the melee attack is melee, the burn is force.

[Apocalypse-]

well it is both. the melee attack is melee, the burn is force.

 

But the Burn also does Melee stuff. Like I said, Ataru Strikes only proc off of Melee attacks, you can proc Ataru Strikes off of the Dot on Cauterize.