Dravinian Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 You didn't earn it the "real" way. You roflstomped lowbies the moment you had expertise. It is amazing that people that roflstomped lowbies now complain that someone else is able to gain valor and ranks in "easy" mode. The hypocrisy of it is quite amazing to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrechor Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 We just tried this, and it doesn't work for republics. I dont think anyone is surprised by that tbh. Bioware all play sith..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reichmar Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Pretty disheartening to hear of this exploitation, but it doesn't bother me as BM gear is really not a large upgrade over Champ sets -- most classes see net increases. Killing NPCs for valor repetitively is pretty lame. I would support a rollback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faeldawn Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 There better be a rollback, kind of wondering how they will do it though....how can they just roll back certain players and not the others who are just leveling, regular pvping and such... It's going to be a huge issue as it'll have to be a cross the board rollback, i doubt they can just rollback one thing, it'll likely be a complete server rollback and thats going to piss everyone off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaerion_H Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Whats the exploit?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronp Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Ive never threatened to cancel over a single issue in a mmo before bu if theres no rollback im canceling...theres no way I would pay a company money after this pathetic display of incompetence. Oh and shocking the exploit only works for sith...gj bioware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForceWelder Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Same happend in Rift when they came up with the new PvP rifts. People worked together crossrealm and farmed top rank in 8 hours. With never any punishment. All the old school pvpers left and game slowly died.. Dont know if same will happend here, we shall see.. My sub has been cancelled, Bioware clearly has no clue how to handle the pvp side of the game. And cba to wait 6 months paying for nothing. /mega Been there done that. I played Rift right before SWTOR came out and it is pretty much as you described. There were so few people PVPing I wasn't even sure if the other faction even existed. It wasn't until world events took place that max level players started to show up. And then there wasn't enough to even do the events. Both sides had no choice but to join forces to accomplish the event. Otherwise nobody was going to walk away with squat. There was nothing sader than seeing an MMO demise occur right in front of you. By this time next year, Rift might even be FTP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJStix Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 It's going to be a huge issue as it'll have to be a cross the board rollback, i doubt they can just rollback one thing, it'll likely be a complete server rollback and thats going to piss everyone off. It's actually quite easy, as long as they have a snapshot of their databases before the patch (if they are a competent company, they would do this every downtime). Then it is just a matter of bringing the servers down and changing the valor values of all players to their values pre patch. It can be done with one query really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Propanelgen Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 If they do a rollback across the board, that is a sure unsub for me. I have played normal warzones and done some space combat, there is no way in hell I will be ok with being rolled back when I have played the game in a normal manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabtangs Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Nobody is answering the question "What is the exploit?" Guess there isn't one and trolls just trolling move along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForceWelder Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Ive never threatened to cancel over a single issue in a mmo before bu if theres no rollback im canceling...theres no way I would pay a company money after this pathetic display of incompetence. Oh and shocking the exploit only works for sith...gj bioware I can't say that myself. I quit Warcraft soon after release because the game was all but unplayable. It wasn't until a few months had passed that I came back. But with that said, I do think this issue is a game killer. Within the first hour of the patch going live people were on the forums raising all kinds of hell. Yet, Bioware is mysteriously quiet on this even though the level of rage is only growing and not dimishing. They are going to lose some subs over this. Of that I have no doubt. I would rather for them to lock down the PVP area in Ilum altogether than continue to leave things as they are. The reality is, it isn't fair to either side. The Imps lose out on the distinction of having more properly "earned" the gear and the Repubs simply get screwed altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RG_jhanlec Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Nobody is answering the question "What is the exploit?" Guess there isn't one and trolls just trolling move along Imps are getting valor for killing NPCs and turrrets in Illum. By holding all of Illum the valor is around 400-500 per kill. So by killing auto-respawning turrets every 1-2 min they get 400-500 valor. Rinse and repeat and they get battlemaster in 2-3hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XodoK Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Imps are getting valor for killing NPCs and turrrets in Illum. By holding all of Illum the valor is around 400-500 per kill. So by killing auto-respawning turrets every 1-2 min they get 400-500 valor. Rinse and repeat and they get battlemaster in 2-3hours. People are reporting turrets not giving any Valor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archzai Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 You know what's funny? A lot of these names here are people who said Imperials were whining when they said 1-50 WZ was imbalanced and high level geared Republic players farmed low level Imperials in WZ for Valor 60. Now that it's happening to them, they cry for rollbacks. Just like you guys said to us back then "we can't help it, Bioware made the game this way". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashall Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Weeks of all nighters to grind 60? Yuck. That's sad. Shouldnt take that long, Bioware should address that. I suppose they already did unintentionally =p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonerjohn Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Same happend in Rift when they came up with the new PvP rifts. People worked together crossrealm and farmed top rank in 8 hours. With never any punishment. All the old school pvpers left and game slowly died.. Dont know if same will happend here, we shall see.. My sub has been cancelled, Bioware clearly has no clue how to handle the pvp side of the game. And cba to wait 6 months paying for nothing. /mega No, Rift punished the ones guilty of trading. They just never published it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siokai Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 There needs to be an entire rollback to last night before the patch. For people upset about the warzones they did legit today, well...sorry? You played for less than a day honestly, certainly you can give that up to fix the game. Hopefully you'll even receive a reward for having to make such a sacrifice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabtangs Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Imps are getting valor for killing NPCs and turrrets in Illum. By holding all of Illum the valor is around 400-500 per kill. So by killing auto-respawning turrets every 1-2 min they get 400-500 valor. Rinse and repeat and they get battlemaster in 2-3hours. Ah... I see. anybody have a screenshot of this 400-500 valor per turret? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhinoplat Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 There better be a rollback, kind of wondering how they will do it though....how can they just roll back certain players and not the others who are just leveling, regular pvping and such... It would have to a server wide rollback. Mean the servers get reverted to right before they went down for the patch. All work from anyone PvE or PvP would be wiped, the last few hours would have never happened. It's the right thing to do, and it really sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggito Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) 1 1/2 hrs in a full ops group in Ilum. I got ~2k valor total. I wish I knew how to get this battlemaster in seconds because 2k in 1 1/2 hrs is horrible. Turrets were only giving legacy xp, no valor. Controlling all of Ilum the kills weren't worth it with most of them not counting for anything and the totals decreasing or vanishing after the same people got killed. I think the highest I saw off a kill was 170ish when I first got there. It started to be ~20 by the time I left and like I said not every kill counted. Ilum is a huge slideshow basically not worth the headache of being there Edited January 18, 2012 by maggito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celebrus Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Exploiters costing legitimate players at least a full day worth of valor? Seen this before, nothing new here. Welcome to MMOs newbies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walrusaurus Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Nobody is answering the question "What is the exploit?" Guess there isn't one and trolls just trolling move along What a few people are claiming is that they can afk in illum and get tons of valor due to imps killing the turrets that the patch added to the republic base spawn point today. Couple holes in this 'exploit' 1. Valor is only shared if you are in a group with the person who gets the killing blow 2. Valor is only gained if you are in combat with the person who died. 3. The 2 champion level 50 turrets that guard the spawn do not give valor. When i killed one a few hours ago all i got was 433 legacy experience. I was on illum for a little under 2 hours to do my daily, almost all of which i did by zerging the Republic base in an ops group, and i got around 3k valor for the whole thing. Unless i see a video of someone killing a turret and getting valor from it this is trolling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nocorras Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 (edited) Roll back that whole 2k valor I've gotten b/c Empire are camping Republic in the base and you don't get valor for base kills? The turret rumor IS FALSE. Edited January 18, 2012 by Nocorras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pistols Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 No one earned Valor ranks the right way. Derp, derpity derp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorizdin Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 Imps are getting valor for killing NPCs and turrrets in Illum. By holding all of Illum the valor is around 400-500 per kill. So by killing auto-respawning turrets every 1-2 min they get 400-500 valor. Rinse and repeat and they get battlemaster in 2-3hours. Yeah, not happening. (Not to say that there isn't a problem but this is inaccurate.) The turrets have ~million HP and hit for 4-5k against heavy armor (4 shotted through endure pain). The extra valor is from the bonus for controlling the zone points and then camping people in their base. Turrets, even if they give valor which I can't confirm because the lag was so bad, its not worth the effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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